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Dualshock 4: The developers speak [EU]

Scott Rohde writes: "As you know, one of the first major reveals during PlayStation Meeting 2013 was the all new DUALSHOCK4 Wireless Controller. Today, we’re pleased to share a brand new video where developers discuss some of their favorite DUALSHOCK4 features, what makes each feature unique and how it will make your gameplay experience much more dynamic."

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Arai4765d ago

Some really great features on the joy-pad, truly great that all the studios came together and made it what it is.

MariaHelFutura4765d ago

The controllers changing the screen setup on split screen is pure genius.

sengoku4765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

beat that, i'm loving this new controller.

Ilovetheps54765d ago

I never really liked that light bar on the controller because I thought it was going to primarily be used for motion gaming purposes. But when they explained that feature, it just made sense to me. That feature is brilliant. I hate playing split screen and playing the screen across from me. But, this would solve that issue. I hope they use that feature quite often.

galgor4765d ago

...so long as developers continue to make splitscreen games of course.

abzdine4765d ago

that's right, and that rubber for better grip is a great addition too.
this is true next gen controller, PS1-->PS3 we have seen no evolution, now it's obvious PS4 is THE next big thing.
Cannot wait for the release!

starchild4765d ago

From the controller to the console's architecture to the planned features, I really think Sony is making all the right decisions for the PS4.

The Great Melon4765d ago

I thought the same thing when I heard the split screen swap. I hope companies make use of that idea. Playing Halo 2 was always nightmare on the original Xbox, because everyone had their own preferred position relative to the TV. For some reason we never could get the order of sign in right. There was always much arguing in the pre-game. Good times...

BullyMangler4765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

The only next GEN features the P$4 has is the not so UNIQUE but yes gratefully sweet SHARE button ? and pixar power under the beLt? . . so what?!

the PS4 can do some bad ass stuff!

or is this just how it seems for the PS4?

The Dualshock 4 has those beautiful LED lights!I"m LOVING that. That feature had to have sprung from the also different colored LED lights of the 3DS but still.
And the Dualshock 4 touch pad and the whole flicking idea is all Nintendo then again eh.

pero ps4 with split-screen still though = :/

Divine4765d ago

i love what sony has done i just can't wait to hold the system and controller in my hands. 720 as well but that is ofcourse my very second anticipation.

xtremeimport4765d ago

that was the 1 thing that stood out to me the most. That is brilliant.

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Crazyglues4765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

Sony can you please just give me a Date and a Price, and take my money - I am ready...

I was ready to order at the first Press Conference... LoL

-All Jokes Aside though, I have been ready for the nex gen of consoles, for awhile now, since I also game on PC-

So it's really going to be amazing to finally be able to have some of the advantages PC gives you - plus some of these cool things they have added.

I can't wait... hopefully our launch games turn-out to be really good and if that happens the 2nd round of games will probably be even better, it will once again be an amazing time to be a Gamer...

Controller looks like a nice re-design from what we have now, I wish we could have got a price on how much they will cost because you always end up needing to get a second controller at launch..

I think Sony has hit this one out the park, I think the launch of PS4 is going to be huge...

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UnholyLight4765d ago

I must say, I think Sony has actually done a REALLY good job in leading up to E3 and the eventual release of the PS4. From a pure Business and Marketing perspective Sony is doing a great job in just continuing the conversation with people about their console and why it is so great. Even though some of the things have already been talked about, keeping that audience retention at a maximum is going to really work out for them.

This Commerce student gives Sony an A on their current campaign! Now let's see what approach Microsoft will take with their reveal.

bigfish4764d ago

@ Crazyglues - Sony can do more than just take my money. they can take an arm, a leg, a kidney, a lung, ill even give em a bollock. PS4 will be epic!

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Freedomland4765d ago

@ jcnba28

Here you are again and i know that you will be the first to buy ps4, i know it.

MYSTERIO3604765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

This really is a thing of beauty

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KONAAs4765d ago

well if the dualshock is $60 i bet this one will be close to $100 or more. but worth it

Divine4765d ago

naah i was thinking more like. 75 , 85 but u may be right

imdaboss14764d ago

Sony is going all out with the PS4..They going to kill the competition with exclusive games and im loving the new controller! MS dont have anything to show..

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Riderz13374765d ago

The touch pad seemed very smooth and easy to use when the guy in the video was demonstrating it. Very nice controller overall, I especially am looking forward to the share button.

MurDocINC4765d ago

In the video, it sounds like it's clicking when he uses touch pad.

torchic4765d ago

yes it's confirmed to be clickable

JoGam4765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

The clicking noise you heard was him hitting the right analog stick as he was swiping. Watch the video again. Yes its clickable though.

THE-COMMANDER4765d ago

I really love the new share function.

TrevorPhillips4765d ago

Same here brother and what's with the disagree's :/

Williamson4765d ago

The stealth diagree's are really dumb, but thats why Im here. I'll give an agree to any sensible comment I read.

RBlue_Desire4765d ago

@MariaHelFutura or maybe just pissed fanboys.........

*sees alot of dislikes coming*

Ilovetheps54765d ago

I did not disagree, but the share button will not be for me. I'm not a social gamer. I personally don't need to upload videos or pictures to the internet. I've never even used facebook or any social media before. But, for those that will use it, the function looks great. It looks easy to use, but for me, it will never be used.

Conzul4765d ago

Well, I expect the disagrees come from disgruntled people who actually bought the dedicated hardware needed for recording game footage. Also they probs have nice PCs for editing and such, and, well, now this "Share" button comes along and steals all their thunder.

That said, I hope the video recording function lets you save a local copy of the clips instead of forcing an automatic upload to some arbitrary social site. We need to be able (still) to offload them to our PCs to be able to make montages and add custom musics and sounds and other stuff that should be self-evident.

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DOMination-4765d ago

I didn't disagree. I like the features that the share button provides. They all look like things I'd use too, but imo, it doesn't need a button. They could have just built an option into the OS. Then they could have used that space for a button you could actually use for gameplay or something else. The feature doesn't really need it's own dedicated button.

ps3_pwns4765d ago

the share button was needed and even for those people who arent social media type person even me who is not a social media type person will still use it a lot becuase in games sometimes im just like what im doing right now is just to awesome i need to record and save this moment and the share button makes it instant and faster no need to go through the menu screen and such to toggle it on.

just press the button and bam that time you killed 10 people in a row by yourself in the cod or warhawk is now saved and can be show to the world if you like.

phantomexe4765d ago

I think the controller is great. The share button was a great idea but the touch pad is so small. I can't see that be used the way sony may be hopeing developers will use it. I don't know tho maybe they will. I can think of thousands of ways to use the wiiu touch screen but i go brain dead when i try to think of ways to use sonys touch pad. Never the less day 1 for me as soon as gamestop begins takeing preorders.

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gluv654765d ago

The touch pad is easy one to think of. Think of Forza and all the layers you need to use too create or replicate something. With the touch pad if they let you use a stylus or even your finger. You can draw your image on the touch pad and it appears on the screen. Hit the option button and a color wheel pops up to fill in with the select color or colors. Now think about that in a game like Gran Turismo or the new IP Drive Club. Think about it just as an app to draw and then print.

phantomexe4764d ago

Thats a preety good idea.

pierce4765d ago

I'm sorry but it has to be said, the left analog stick is still in the wrong place! How hard is it to change that? Come on, Sony.

shancake4765d ago

I think they would get slaughtered if they made that change...

pierce4765d ago

Just because that's what Microsoft did? Then get slaughtered. Admitting when you're wrong is the sign of a healthy company. Failure to adapt isn't going to help anyone.

Snookies124765d ago

@Pierce - What makes their positioning wrong? Just because you say so? People have their own preferences, and it's not like it's a huge deal to use the PS alignment as opposed to the 360 alignment of analogues. They both function and neither are a burden to use, so neither are in the wrong.

avengers19784765d ago

Why would Sony change a controller lay out that has been successful not only for years but generations. I think the dual shock is the best controller.

Root4765d ago

@pierce

LOL...what are you talking about, the DS is better then the 360s controller. It's more adaptable for different types of games while the 360s is only better with first person shooters and sometimes driving games.

Lets not forget I bet you didn't have a problem with the DS/DS2 before the 360 came out

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AhmadCentral4765d ago

I don't agree. I actually prefer the PlayStation controller to others. It's just my personal preference but i'm willing to say that a lot of people must share my opinion if Sony have kept the analog design the same.

Ilovetheps54765d ago

I agree. I'm not sure about the majority of the population, but my thumbs are located in the same position on both of my hands. I don't know why the analog sticks would be asymmetrical. It just doesn't feel right to me. I think it's perfect the way it is on the Dualshock controllers, and I don't want them to change that.

mushroomwig4765d ago

I'm so sick of this argument with the analog stick placement, for me it's perfectly placed. I'm sure you can use a third party controller if it really bothers you that much.

Karpetburnz4765d ago

WTF! how is it in the wrong place? you know human thumbs are symmetric? so why should the left analog stick change? just because Xbox does it, it doesn't mean PS4 has to do it as well.

Good_Guy_Jamal4765d ago

This is going to be long but bear with me.

The mature of the human hand and the symmetry of the thumbs/fingers is exactly the reason why they should change the placement of the left analogue stick.
Here are my 2 reasons:
When a person grasps an object or even makes a fist, the natural instinct is to rest the thumb as close as possible to the index finger, and not away from the index like the Dual Shock forces you to.
Go ahead and take a firm full grip on to your DS3 with just your left hand. Hold it tight so that it wouldn't go flying off if you shook your hand vigorously.
Note how instintively your thumb falls on to the D-pad and your index falls on to the L1 button with the middle finger resting underneath the controller to give it stability. The controller now rests comfortably in the palm of your hand.
That is the natural way that the hand holds on to something.
-Now with the same hand hold the DS3 like you would if you were playing a game. Note how now your thumb moves from its natural resting position and now moves down to the Left Stick, to compensate for this awkward grip, you now have to prop your palm away from the controller and it no longer rests comfortably in your palm but is now resting on your middle finger, ring finger and pinky.
Over time, this way of holding an object causes discomfort and cramping.
-The 360 controller on the other hand(same hand actually) allows you to use your hand's natural grip even when gaming. This is thanx to its shape be size and the position of the left stick. Note how your controller never leaves your palm. It rests in the palm and does not cause discomfort, at least not as quickly or severly as the ds.
Reason 2: When you play a game with an independent camera, you almost never have to use the Right Stick and so your right thumb rests on the face button the majority of the time, this is not in symmetry in the case of the DS3 as you so quickly wanted to point out. If your left thumb is down at the LS and your right thumb is up at the face buttons, how exactly is that being symmetrical?
The only genre that requires almost constant manipulation of the camera with the right stick is the shooter genre, which leaves you playing sports games, side scrolling games, fighting games, puzzle games, arcade games, hack and slash games in the unnatural not symmetric position so I'd shut up about symmetry if I were trying to argue the DS3 case.

To summarize: DS design forces you to hold it in an unnatural grip partially because of the stick positioning (man sized hands anyway), it is uncomfortable and leads to cramping.
When playing most genres, the right thumb rests on the face buttons as the right stick is seldom used. This is not symmetrical like you claimed.

Conzul4765d ago

@Jamal
You have no business gripping a game paddle that hard. You know what happens when baseball players grip their bats too hard? Fail happens.

Loose grips sink enemy ships X]

neoMAXMLC4765d ago

@Jamal

"When playing most genres, the right thumb rests on the face buttons as the right stick is seldom used."

This line alone invalidates your entire comment. What is the most played genre on the Xbox 360? Shooters. And what is one of the most used inputs in shooters? The right stick. You use the right stick more than you use the left stick in these types of games. So if the DualShock's left stick is in the wrong place, then so is the right stick... which means the 360's right stick is also in the wrong place... according to your logic at least.

All these so-called facts you desperately try to bring up to prove that the 360's stick placements are "correct" is nothing short of bias.

Aceman184765d ago

only mutants feel the left stick is in the wrong spot, but has regular humans know that our thumbs are symmetrical lol.

the controller looks and sounds awesome, PS4 is a day one purchase for me.

Anzil4765d ago

@Good_Guy_Jamal good luck trying to make your opinion fact!

MysticStrummer4765d ago

Good_Guy_Jamal, the MS marketing department high fives over people like you.

People like you are the reason it's a great idea for them to use the word Infinite with NextBox. You see the marketing ploy and think it's all true.

MrBeatdown4764d ago

@Jamal

I've seen a lot of things on N4G... amateur game development experts, amateur financial analysts, amateur hardware developers...

I'll have to add an amateur orthopedist to the list.

solidjun54764d ago

@Mrbeatdown: he's an amateur orthopedist alright. However, he's an expert troll and BS artist.

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zerocrossing4765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

Seriously?... Look, that may be your "opinion" but (I) like many others wouldn't have it any other way.

Adva4765d ago

Because Xbox controller is designed with the left stick top left doesn't mean it's the right spot...
There is no right or wrong in this.

I have been used to it since PS1 and I like it.

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torchic4765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

there's nothing comfortable about asymmetry.

I remember playing Halo Reach at a friend's house the other day and thought the analog stick positioning was just so awkward, the controller kept slipping out of my hands.

it's just an awkward experience everytime I play on a 360 controller.

symmetry is natural, conventional and creates functionality. Microsoft's controller just doesn't make sense.

Lilchopp7724765d ago

Sony Controller been the same since 1996. What makes you think they are going to change it. i like the way the analog sticks are design

Good_Guy_Jamal4765d ago

I don't know, progress? Newer better ideas? I'm glad other companies don't share that philosophy or we'd all be stuck with 1996 looking tech.

IRetrouk4765d ago

That phone is sick, where can i get one?

a_squirrel4764d ago

And the data plan is $10/month, unlimited talk

raWfodog4765d ago

If a large enough group of people truly had issues with that, it would have came out during the research and development stages of the controller's lifecycle (past and present). The majority of people really don't have any issue with it.

EmeraldGFX4765d ago

Honestly, I think it's just a matter of preference. Some people have larger hands and need the sticks further apart like xbox, and that could feel better to them.

It's not about changing it because that's was Microsoft did. It's about keeping loyal to what their fans enjoy, and what they believe to be a great design for a controller. You may not agree, and that's perfectly fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Arkrite4765d ago

As a large handed individual myself i'd like to see the sticks slightly further apart, the times my thumbs have hit each other with DS1/2/3 are too numerous to mention, please do a large handed version DS4 Sony i wont use 3rd party pads they are shit and most of them fail within days the new pad looks awesome

C4BL34765d ago

I have a large problem with the ds1/2/3 because they feel cheap and they literally fit in one of my hands. I need a meaty, heavy controller.

Aceman184765d ago

i have large hands, and prefer the DS over the 360 controller which feels weird to me.

Neko_Mega4765d ago

A true gamer doesn't cry about something little, they get use to it.

I have no problems going from N64 controllers to 360 to PS3. But maybe its because I have played every system out their (well not counting some of the crappy ones that didn't last long).

Calm Down Sunshine4765d ago

In the wrong place? Both my thumbs are the same size though...

Daves4765d ago

Hey mine as as well!! Agree.

Riderz13374765d ago

The analog sticks are parallel to one another...I don't see what's wrong about it? Been using a PlayStation controller for over 10 years and have never had one complaint. I have human hands, not alien hands.

Aceman184765d ago

the complainers have mutant hands. also did anyone stop to think maybe the reason why the left stick on 360 controllers is in the wrong spot because maybe Sony has a patent on the placement of them? just a thought.

supremacy4765d ago (Edited 4765d ago )

I honestly dont believe for a second, that the layout is as important as you imply.

Simply put, if the controller is slighter bigger heavier and feels comfortable to hold in your hands for long gaming sessions is a good sign.

The other thing is, the analog sticks are different from the ones found in previous PlayStation controllers. They keep stressing how tighter they feel as oppose to how loose they currently are in the dualshock 3 controller, not to mention there is more space between them. Thats huge, and essentially eliminates any for needing an Apple like lawsuit in your hands, just for the sake of a few opinions.

PlayStation controllers are designed for PlayStation consoles, xbox controllers are designed for xbox consoles. Its what seperates them, and gives them their own identity in a sense; why cant some just accept that?

neoMAXMLC4765d ago

Yeah... maybe if you were born in 2005 then sure, the left stick is in the wrong place.

You want to know what's really wrong? The 360's d-pad.

BlaqMagiq244765d ago

And make it like the Xbox controller!? Wow you must've lost your mind.

gobluesamg4765d ago

Your ratio of disagrees to agrees should tell you something. Go play Gears.

Neo-Axl4765d ago

Strange, I've been saying the very same thing about the X360 controller for years and years.. :)

hesido4765d ago

I like the placement of the left analogue stick on Xbox controller, however, why make it asymmetric? If you are going to place it on top, you may put the right stick on top as well, our hands are symmetric :)

MysticStrummer4765d ago

I'm sorry but it has to be said, stop falling for MS marketing. That design isn't more ergonomic.

ziggurcat4764d ago

"I'm sorry but it has to be said, the left analog stick is still in the wrong place!"

no it isn't.

Zhipp4764d ago

I'm not gonna ask that they switch around the sticks for the official controller, but I hope Nyko comes to the rescue with a staggered stick design. I really can't stand the Dualshock. :/

boing14764d ago

Playing on on this layout for almost 20 years. Can't imagine the stick where dpad is. Not on DS. Also, I held proto DS4 in hand (we have a PS4 devkit). You guys will really love it. Especially the grips and R2/L2 triggers. Very, very comfortable. Not sure I'm a fan of concaved/convexed hybrid sticks though. It's wierd but they feel more slippery then DS3 for me. And they're smaller which isn't helping either. The springiness is perfect though. Still, it's a proto and doesn't have final materials. I'm sure retail version will be even more awesome.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted15d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8514d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele14d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk14d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay14d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10115d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit14d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg14d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10114d ago (Edited 14d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14914d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_28d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle27d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit27d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog28d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog27d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad28d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_28d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage28d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda27d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong53d ago

looks god awful on the base systems