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Xbox Live Issues Resolved by Microsoft

Metro: It finally confirmed that a fix had been found at 3.58pm PT (11.58pm BST), saying: "If you were one of the members who was having issues signing in to Xbox LIVE, good news! This issue has been fixed! Thank you so much for your patience during this time, feel free to go enjoy your favourite games and content!"

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Gazondaily4750d ago (Edited 4750d ago )

I wonder how 'hot' this article will get.

For those making knee jerk reactions about hacking etc let me douse the flames a bit seeing as, unlike quite a few trolls on here, I have a 360 and was playing most of yesterday:

* Xbox Live did not go down
* Some people had trouble signing in
* You couldn't send messages or do party chat

So yeah, and it was sorted out quite quickly because in a couple of hours, my mate who was affected by this, was back on.

But it is sad to see people get more agrees than disagrees for posting things like "God bless Anonymous". It was just wishful thinking on the part of many on here. I remember how much hatred there was for Anonymous with the PSN fiasco.

Kingdom Come4750d ago

Brilliantly said. During the PSN fiasco, I felt sorry for non-multiplatform gamers, as it meant them being incapable of experiencing the online component of the latest releases, where at the potential risk of loosing credit card details and much more.

Sony fanboys have reacted both over-enthusiastically and immaturely to this massively over-hyped situation. It's quite pathetic...

Being a multiplatform gamer, I tend to remain calm regarding scenarios such as this, as I always have my other console to fall back on, however, if both Microsoft and Sony where to (God forbid) be hacked, I wouldn't wish the same fate on Nintendo.

Ezz20134750d ago (Edited 4750d ago )

i do agree that fanboys take things too far
but you have to admit xbox fanboys laughed at every ps3 owner when psn hack happend and said how Much live is safe and no one can hack it
and now xbox live took a warning attack from those same guys
they said they are the one behind that hack BTW
http://www.gamefocus.ca/new...
https://twitter.com/Anonymo...
and it don't seem like this will be their last attack

every one at one point will have to eat a humble pie

it just show that no online is safe from them
it wasn't MS nor Sony's fault
those guys can hack any thing in the world
i hope they get arrested and this thing is over

EDIT: i didn't give you disagree by the way...you know i have nothing but respect for you even when we disagree

EDIT 2 : they are not the one who shut down PSN for a month
it was Sony them self
Sony took it down to protect the customers untill they make PSN more secure
http://blog.us.playstation....
they are the one who did the warning attack to xbox Live

like i said i hope they get arrested and things like that never happen again

Gazondaily4750d ago

Well any fanboys who supported the hack on PSN got shot down pretty quickly and certainly didn't get more agrees than disagrees. Only Sony fanboys can get away with that on here but I guess it's our responsibility to continue reporting them until a mod does something.

It is is interesting to note however, that if this was an Anonymous attack, they couldn't even bring the service down; only stop some people signing in and send messages for a couple of hours as opposed to bringing a service to its knees for a month. But, like I've said before, I'm skeptical about Anonymous' involvement in this.

xPhearR3dx4750d ago

Ummm dude, in that Twitter link you posted he clearly says you are easily trolled.....meaning, he never did anything. Not to mention, this is the real Anonymous Twitter and they stated themselves they have no idea what happened.

https://twitter.com/YourAno...

Ezz20134750d ago (Edited 4750d ago )

seems like it was FAKE...there was no attack at all
it not them as you said @Septic
https://twitter.com/YourAno...

@xphearr3dx
yes you are right it was not them and there is no attack....my mistake
sorry guys

Gazondaily4750d ago (Edited 4750d ago )

No need to apologise. Yeah I thought so. Ah well, the rumour bar was wrong again, contrary to the wishes of many ;-)

xAlmostPro4750d ago

Just because it didn't go down (as in all services). Doesn't mean it wasn't hacked. According to them anonymous members that carried out the attack, they used a huge botnet attack. Meaning the traffic would have caused a DOS.

Which makes sense considering the ability to sign-in/send messages etc was lost, not just to some people, to hundreds of thousands by the way.

The worrying part is the anonymous members who carried this out gave a warning about card details, urging users to remove them.. this is the scary part. Because They have(if true) been able to access details and where Sony took the PSN offline to stop this, MS have ignored this and decided to put it back online and only fix the cause.

If it turns out card details have been taken, they'll have to consider taking it down and doing a re-build like Sony did with the PSN. They can't keep an exploit alive, that's just crazy.

However i do agree, fanboys bragging or supporting it are out of hand. Jokes are fine but using it for flame wars is daft. It's never fun to pay for a service that has issues.

Ezz20134750d ago

i don't understand......there was a hack or there wasn't ?! and who did that attack ??
because
Anonymous say they didn't hack it
https://twitter.com/YourAno...

Zepherite4750d ago (Edited 4750d ago )

If it was a DDOS attack, that is not a hack. To have 'Hacked' something you need to gain access to it. A DDOS attack does precisely the opposite and stops anyone gaining access, legitimately or otherwise, by increasing traffic so much it overloads the server.

Anonymous have posted on their twitter, that it wasn't them and Microsoft haven't even said anything yet. For all we KNOW (as everything at the moment is pure speculation) there may never have been a hack or DDOS attempt at all. It could just be a small issue on Microsoft's side. It's happened before and been quickly fixed, no hacking involved.

I'm going to wait until I receive some concrete FACTS, before I go comment on what has happened.

ijust2good4750d ago

I was denied my CoD prescription and i demand compensation for this downtime.

Animal Mutha 764750d ago

I could not sign in last night at all from around 9pm GMT so yeah for me it was down. Quite unusual to have any issues here in UK but the service alert page kept us in the loop. Not tried this morning yet as the grand prix gets preference :))

Intentions4750d ago

Pretty much this.

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Maybe it was an "Always online test to see if if works for next gen for not", if it was then it failed. GG

Jokes.

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nukeitall4750d ago (Edited 4750d ago )

Apart from all the mis-information, but if you look at MS excellent XBL service, you realise why.

From the article:

*2.56pm PT: Microsoft stated that some users may have experienced connection delays, but added that it is "still hard at work fixing the issue".

*3.38pm PT: MS said: "There is still an issue members are having signing in to Xbox LIVE, we greatly appreciate you sticking it out with us while we work as hard as we can to get this problem fixed. Keep checking back here every 30 minutes for another update on our progress."

*3.58pm PT: MS says: "If you were one of the members who was having issues signing in to Xbox LIVE, good news! This issue has been fixed! Thank you so much for your patience during this time, feel free to go enjoy your favourite games and content!"

F*** that, how freakin fast do you fix a service? Within an hour, MS located, fixed the problem and updated the consumer 3 times.

None of the company's I have experience with does it that fast with that many status updates.

MikeMyers4750d ago (Edited 4750d ago )

This is why having Major Nelson is also a key component to Xbox Live. It feels very much a community with lots of feedback. With that said this was perfect timing as all the rumors are still floating around about the next Xbox requiring a constant connection. This just exacerbates the issue of how things can go haywire at any time and having a system whos basic function requires being connected can be a bad thing.

Just imagine when we all do our banking online and there are no more tellers/cashiers and the system goes down. It will be chaos.

nukeitall4750d ago

@MikeMyers:

This isn't PSN going down for a month here nor is gaming the need all be all.

That said, always online doesn't necessarily mean that to play games you have to be online. It could very well mean something else, but why overreact until we know the truth and I doubt the truth is what everybody is overreacting too.

MikeMyers4750d ago

Nobody is over-reacting, at least I'm not. What I am saying is these hiccups if you will makes an always on system seem very risky for a game console. When you pay $15 a month to play Onlive or watch Netflix movies that's one thing but paying $400 for a system plus all the software will annoy people a lot more if they can't access it. Even if it's a few hours or a few days.

Good_Guy_Jamal4750d ago

Wow this article has been buried by the negative false rumors already! Not that I'm suprised, since N4G enjoys negative Xbox press way more than the actual truth.
Bottomline, Xbox was not hacked.
We could still log in and game online.
90% of applications and services were up and running
Our information was not compromised.

Root4750d ago

Well I heard it was hacked.....this guy has even admitted it because he wants to free Lulzsec members

https://twitter.com/Channel...

Look at his Twitter.,..the guy is admitting it and some OTHER Anonymous members have been helping/praising him

Remember Anonymous is not just one person....

Hingle_Mcringleberry4750d ago

Nobody cares what you heard Root, because we all know you wish it were true so you'll obviously want to believe it was hacked.

Root4750d ago

Why would I want that....please stop being so childish. I'm just pointing it out because want to know if it's true or not.

Honestly one bubble trolls like you should just be ignored.

T24750d ago

@septic - you make some good points but if xbox live wasnt down but I couldnt sign in, is there a point ? Just sayin

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Cocozero4750d ago

Anon must be either getting sloppy or MS got a very good backup system. I personally wasn't even affected but those who were had no connection for just a couple of hours unlike a month like some hacks.

I guess you get what you pay for eh :p

xAlmostPro4750d ago

Or MS completely disregarded the warnings about card details and where as Sony brought the service down to stop the compromise, microsoft have decided they will just risk it, to get online quicker.

Meaning some hackers could be sat on a bunch of card details and microsoft aren't giving a shit about it. Not only that but going back up so quickly(when according to the hackers DOS was part of the attack) they have left exploits open for hackers who may decide to re-visit.

Gimmemorebubblez4750d ago

Well at least it's back online.

Why o why4750d ago

I cant get into sky player. Its saying I don't have the station's. Going to have to reinstall and reset password as I've forgotten it. Local time 13.18 gmt

oof464750d ago

I haven't played all day. If I hadn't come on here, I wouldn't have known it was down.

aviator1894750d ago

same here. by the time I had gotten back from some b-ball at the park, everything worked how it should.

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

Former Xbox executive Ed Fries comments on the early days of Xbox, the opinion of Japanese game companies, and more.

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Reaper22_2d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle1d 19h ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit1d 20h ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog2d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog2d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad2d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_2d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage2d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda1d 19h ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Xbox Game Pass ‘has become too expensive,’ says Microsoft’s new gaming chief in leaked memo

Microsoft’s new Xbox chief, Asha Sharma, has signaled that Xbox Game Pass pricing is about to change. In an internal memo to Xbox employees, obtained by The Verge, Sharma admits that “Game Pass has become too expensive for players” and that Microsoft needs “a better value equation.”

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GotGame8183d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been talking about adding commercials to get the cost down. Not in game, but before you start a session. I would just open my game then get all the stuff I need to done, before sitting down to play.

If they cut the price down enough to justify it, I'd do it. Most Sub services are giving the option now. If it's worth it!

blacktiger2d ago

no moron! commercial will be in every loading and in game for further opportunity.

shadowfax331d 18h ago

user calling other user moron and gets upvoted....wow how toxic N4G has become.

jwillj2k41d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Multiple tiers. You decide at what level you want the ads. Obtrusive gives you access to more games. This will allow ads to play during crucial moments of gameplay, almost guaranteeing you fail/die. However you gain access to more games. Unobtrusive only shows ads before/after you play, however you get a fraction of the games. /s

peppeaccardo1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

FUK ads ... dont u have enough? MS should just make games and sell them, for indie or AA games get them on GP so to give visibility to small studios. They got into a business model which is not sustainable as it is killing their first party studios. Their fault .. .

Jingsing1d 18h ago

You do realize that has been one of the big reasons for the mass exodus of people leaving subscription services. Getting ad's while paying for a service and having the price continually jack up and ad time.

thorstein1d 16h ago

Why would they cut the cost to you?

GotGame8181d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

What you said is not what I saw. What I read said at THE START of a session! Why be a jerk? It isn't like, I was intentionally lying, like so many do! Also, commercials will be an OPTION! Just like Netflix, Hulu, Prime, etc, offer them. GP is also aiming for free Cloud gaming with an AD supported tier.

I mean, do you even use GP? If you do and don't want commercials, you can pay not to have them. I in my OG comment said I might go the commercial tier IF it's worth it. No I wouldn't have all my loading screens be an ad like you said.
Have a great day.

BlaqMagiq11d 14h ago

I will never understand why people want forced ads in their faces in their games or their console. It's never worth it not even with a lower price tier.

CornholioX1d 12h ago

Ads are the virus that needs to be removed!!

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Exthun2d ago

Microsoft owns a massive collection of iconic IPs, yet somehow they keep proving they have absolutely no idea how to run the video game business.

Reaper22_2d ago

Its not their job to run the game business. Everyone has a business model. You do what works for you. You react to changes in the market. Thats really all you can do.

Smellsforfree2d ago

No, actually reacting to the market is how Sony threw $400 million (reportedly) at Concord.

__y2jb1d 19h ago

“Its not their job to run the game business” - a new low in the blind defense of Xbox.

Alek831d 13h ago

Interesting, isn't it?

Halo, Forza, Gears of War, Fable, Minecraft, and now Bethesda games... These should allow them to print money!

hiawa231d 3h ago

Especially selling them to the huge Playstation base. I say add Nintendo to the release schedule if it is truly about selling software. Get the games to the most gamers.

hiawa232d ago (Edited 2d ago )

But, Microsoft heads set the price in the first place. Don't scapegoat Phil and Sarah on that as I don't think made those calls, and a $650 Series X and $400 Series S is a nonstarter for most.

Extermin8or3_1d 22h ago

The cost of the consoles is outside of their control, they aren't going to sell at a loss when they aren't making money off games sales cos xbox players hardly buy any games thanks to games pass, which costs far too much to run and make the first party titles for. The console prices are determined by various global factors effecting hardware atm.

Eonjay1d 13h ago

This is actually correct and what made things harder for Phil and Sarah was Amy hood demanding a 20% return on top of that

hiawa231d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

I get all of the outside forces here on console pricing. They aren't selling at all which was also one of the reasons they went multi-plat, so there seems to be no answer here for them as are you saying a 5 year old Xbox costs you more to make in 2026 than in 2020? If that is the case there is nothing further to say. I have two Series Xs so I hope they last.

Extermin8or3_14h ago

@hiawa23 yes that is exactly what I'm saying same for ps5. Remember these devices would have been finalised 208/2019. They were designed during a period of particularly low hardware and rare earth materials etc. They aren't designed to be efficient and are large and have large heat footprints. Both new consoles will benefit from new manufacturing process reducing amounts of silicon although the leaks about next gen xbox strongly suggest it has a much larger chip set than ps6, in line with average pc chips etc size and cooling. All of this now costs alot more than it has previously. Meanwhile leaked documentation about ps6 explicitly states that Sony following recent global shocks like covid and Ukraine war wanted to future proof ps6 from cost perspective. This means lower emergy usage, smaller chips etc and likely form factor and thus weight. This will also lead to cheaper shipping costs. I fully expect base ps6 to come in at cheaper then ps5 pro. Which is likely to be discontinued.

Eonjay2d ago

Well it seems like the rumor of COD leaving GP is real.

Jingsing1d 18h ago

They'll probably just end up killing off the surviving Xbox users who are left and that are into that model. They won't regain the vast majority they lost either.

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Content Creators Are Receiving Xbox Project Helix Merchandise From Microsoft

Content creators are receiving Xbox Project Helix merchandise alongside a note from Microsoft Gaming CEO Asha Sharma.

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shadowT6d ago

Everyone deserves to make a bit of money

VenomUK4d ago

“Just wait until next year!”

DivineHand1254d ago

Well they are doing what they can to revive the brand. They have a lot of work to do.

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peppeaccardo4d ago

yep agree 100% ... and some more. The hype machine is warming up and the performance numbers sheet will be filled in no time to guarantee that the winner on paper is revealed way before the launch day ... BUT as we all know only 1st party games and brand idenity will declare the real winner. Only problem is the price tag needed to get into next gen ...

SIdepocket4d ago

Just what the world needs: another poorly-selling console.

Agent754d ago

Next gen will be a massive failure for Microsoft and Sony, you could say it's already started. Game sales at an all-time low and the high cost of consoles and controllers, the PlayStation 5 Pro is the first indication on the pricing of next gen consoles and that's been a sales flop for Sony. Some people will say that people are paying eye watering prices for PCs, but that's an entirely different market, what I call OCD gaming. As I mentioned in another post, the PlayStation 5 Pro here sells for just under £800, which is just over $1000, games can top £75 ($100), including Switch 2 games. Some of us would like to see a single format, but that'll never happen. Microsoft and Sony would laugh at the idea of stepping off the gas pedal with the tech and do what Nintendo has done with the Switch 2. Three hybrid consoles fighting against each other, basically taking current tech and adding a few bells and whistles. Who's up for a PlayStation 6 for $999 and $99 games? Let me know in the comments.

Reaper22_4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

The simple solution is dont buy what you cant afford. You dont have to move on just because the companies do. If people want better hardware and better games theyre gonna be more expensive. People need to be content with what they have.

rlow14d ago

You know a lot of those sales are dads and moms buying for their kids and teens. Consoles have alway been a reasonable price to a degree. But you start heading far north of $500, I don’t see as many parents buying for their kids or teens……will it still sell? Yes but will it sell a hundred million or more…..that’s the real question. Hopefully ram prices drop.

derek4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Agent75 There is no need to lie to make your point. The ps5pro is selling as a percentage about as well as the ps4pro. The recent pssr2 update has actually improved its value. Your attempt to group the ps5 a console (that is about to cross 100 million sold and is by far Sony's most profitable generation) with the abject failure that is xbox is laughably stupid. Truth is Sony shouldn't even consider launching another console until 2029 at the earliest.

StoneTitan4d ago

Everyone except you knows the pro is a profit machine that is why its expensive.
Ps6 will not be even close to it in price

rlow14d ago

What happens if ram prices remain high? Do you think Sony or MS would eat those costs? Depends on how much they would have to absorb.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

And the lord shone his light upon gamers!

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