I know that breaks some fanboy hearts. MS aren't the devils some people make them out to be.

LOL yahhh if a indie dev praises microsoft = paid off. indie dev praises sony = telling the truth. i forgot that sony is not a huge mega corporation whose sole purpose is to make money (like microsfot) /sarcasm

LOL @ fanboy logic.

Nobody in their right mind thinks Microsoft paid anyone to say positive things about them. The same goes for Sony.

Let's be serious for a second. Indie devs are going to like whichever company shows them respect. In many cases, that could be both. However, the majority of independent developers are currently praising Sony's tactics. That is undeniable. I'll be interested, however, to see if any indie devs throw support behind Microsoft once the new Xbox is announced. I think we should all wait until then to make assumptions. One thing is for sure: Neither Sony nor Microsoft is messing around right now.

The difference between how Microsoft does business with Indies & the difference with Sony is the real issue here.

According to Jonathan Blow and Brian Provinciano it is Microsoft's draconian way to handling their software. The rules process to get a game on Xbox is difficult to deal with. It is too strict that if one has problems it will make the process to get a game on more frustrating. So basically if you follow the rules than you won't have a problem.

With Sony their approval process & self publishing on PSN is a lot easier to digest for most Indie developers. Also the removal of the patch fees for Indies makes PSN much more desirable to be on. The way Sony is more lenient with how they allow developers to use their creativity & time it takes to make their games...there is no outside pressure for Indie devs.

So until Microsoft loosens up their grip for publishing Indie games they will eventually lose faith in them. Money can only get you so far & often times Indie devs are more focused on freedom than the mighty dollar.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau

Helix will be expensive but it's still a day one for me.

Oh, my days...
So Nadella meets with the US president multiple times to ensure AI regulations are minimal if any at all, donates to the inauguration and ballroom, and his boy not only won't regulate AI as farmers lose land and billionaires/corporations buy up farmland to build data centers...but because he's insane and compromised, he starts a war on behalf of a rogue colonial zionist state and [further] destabilizes the Middle East, restricting component access and helium supply.

Now the head of Xbox is saying the hardware pricing "could impact" next generation hardware pricing? Asha,...your boss at a minimum played a direct role in this. What are we even talking about?

Yea because a $3 trillion company can’t absorb the majority of the cost to keep the product lower for consumers.

Expensive… oh no, here comes another flop.

Could? Strange how prices rise for virtually everything we buy, yet when things settle down, prices don't come down. This has been happening in the UK probably before I was born. With that, how much is a next gen console going to cost? Look at the price of the PlayStation 5 Pro, which has been a flop for Sony. On that note, we don't need the next consoles for another 5 years.

I guarantee if people just stopped buying this kinda stuff all together. This would all be sorted within 2 weeks and everything would be back to normal.

We seen the exact same thing through the COVID period. Companies just jumped on the bandwagon realising that they can get away with charging far more under false pretences and fear mongering.

Consumers now have this fear of "you know what, I only live once. I'm going to spend all this money I earned through my hard work" Or "I only live once I'm going to take a loan out and enjoy my time here".

Silicone Valley spends literally billions of dollars researching how much they can push society to the limits to increase spending. You can research it yourself. There's published written documentation about it. Have a look for yourself into their group research into subscription programs to see how evil they are and why it's such a giant focus of current civilization. Its the very essence of corporate capitalism.

Just delay all new consoles. I could easily go another 5 years with my base PS5.

could? it's already affecting current gen pricing.

It is greed. Apple are selling at the same price, while Microsoft Surface increases 500$ per unit. Karma will tell.