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Announce your console now, Microsoft

There's an old saying that goes like this "Loose lips, sink ships" and while we're not dealing with ships here, but next-generation video game consoles, Adam Orth, formerly of Microsoft, learned the hard way that speaking your mind on social network sites isn't always the best policy.

Orth's resignation [or was he pushed?] from Microsoft this week comes after last week he told the internet to "Deal with it" over rumours that the next Xbox console would require an always-on internet connection.

OC_MurphysLaw4774d ago

LOL... let me sum up MS's response the title of this article:

NO

and...."We do not comment on rumor or speculation. We value our loyal fans so the moment we have something to announce we will make sure the gaming community is made aware."

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darthv724774d ago

announcing and revealing. sony announced their console but only revealed the controller. MS isnt one to simply announce, they like to show off their product so to answer questions people will have.

They did it with the original xbox, they did it with the 360, they will do it with the 720. when they feel the time is right they will announce to the world and reveal the system at the same time.

Patience my friends....patience.

g2gshow4774d ago (Edited 4774d ago )

@dlacy

exactly preset response the only thing they care about is percentage ,stock they have whole teams to report that every day .who cares about costumers waiting the sheep's will be fighting to get in line for what ever we release. just to say they had if first. LET THE IDOT"S WAIT (ms) o yeah give the first two sucker's free game an t shirt. do i have to touch them (ms)yes look's good on camera

aviator1894774d ago

They've had a countdown on major nelson's website for over 3 months now, so you can pretty much guess when they'll be announcing it.

Cocozero4774d ago

MS knows how to build hype, everyone wants to know about the 720 and the PS4 is already getting less articles for it when its been announced.

Ashlen4774d ago

I highly doubt this is the type of "hype" they want. Especially considering they fired a guy over it.

And I can't imagine there are many people who are saying things like "always online drm, just what I was hoping for!" and I doubt there are many PS loyalists who are thinking "mind blown i'm switching to MS now!"

Jek_Porkins4774d ago

I actually doubt MS fired Orth for the "Deal with it" comments, more likely it was the fact that he was in heated arguments with Microsoft customers, and he was also being pretty immature by poking fun of where people lived, if I had to guess that is probably the main reason he was let go.

Microsoft has indeed gotten a ton of hype, and everyone will want to check out their reveal, but in no way should Microsoft rush their reveal just to deny rumors, it wouldn't make for a very good event and I'd rather wait and see the unveiling the way Microsoft originally intended.

Also, any person with some intelligence will take a wait and see approach to the earlier rumors, hopefully the newer rumors that are coming out that state the Xbox 720 wont be DRM and will play used games will hold people over till Microsoft actually decides to announce something.

Announcing a console by denying rumors would be a terrible way to do it in my opinion.

blackstrr4114774d ago

MS's current fan base is enough. I don't think they are thinking of bringing sony fanboys. They just wanna please their loyal fans (hopefully)

Dee_914774d ago (Edited 4774d ago )

MS didnt Fire Orth he resigned.Forced resignation? we dont know.Either way somebody getting "fired" or resigning because of a rumor isnt a good look.I believe he violated a contract by even speaking about it or mentioning it.That would be a main reason for him to " leave"
I honestly believe it wont be an requirement.

Oh_Yeah4774d ago (Edited 4774d ago )

Hype is hype, a ton of gamers are talking about it right? So it's staying fresh in gamers minds and that's what they want. The fact is, Microsoft won't require always online to run games...after all the criticism and backlash they received from rrod you think they'd do something like this? Cmon now. They'd be losing sales also...and you know they're all about sales first and foremost.

brave27heart4773d ago

All hype is not equal.

Negative press, people jumping on rumours of unwanted features, having someone resign over poorly worded and offensive comments. This isnt good hype. Its damaging hype.

People should stop trying to justify it because its their console of choice. If Sony were pulling this stuff Id be screaming bloody murder at them.

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Riderz13374774d ago (Edited 4774d ago )

Actually I want to know more about the PS4 lol. Still haven't seen what SSM or ND is up to for next gen. I could care less about games like Halo, Forza or Gears. No innovation in those games and it just seems like it will be more of the same from Microsoft this gen.

Godmars2904774d ago

At this point, whether they wanted to and especially or not, They're going to have to address the always online issue during their main E3 presentation if they don't have an event before.

OC_MurphysLaw4774d ago

So legit question...do they really have to address the always online issue OR do they merely need to announce the console and allow the conference itself answer those questions? Could they not quiet all the rumors one way or another by just giving their regular conference including specs?

I just wonder how much they really feel they need to address it vs just ignore it now and announce then.

Godmars2904774d ago

If they don't address it satisfactorily, if they leave any room for negative rumors to remain, they will.

And honestly, if any of the Kinect rumors are half true I sincerely hope that general consumers offer criticism of being exploited in that way.

Bad enough we have to deal with the current level of internet intrusion we do.

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rainslacker4774d ago (Edited 4774d ago )

At this point, if false, a firm denial, with no room for misinterpretation to meaning, would be needed at the conference. If false, they will not want one shred of this rumor to remain in the consumers eyes. It may get people talking/arguing, but it isn't going to be what they want people talking/arguing about. If false, all it would take is one sentence saying, "The console is not required to be connected to the internet to play games." At this point they could go into what being connected provides.

If true, they will need to address it in a firm way that explains why it's online, and what exactly that means. Vague sayings like "we are always interested in providing the consumer with the best experience" just aren't going to cut it. The community will disseminate the information, and MS will be right back where they were 3 days ago. Despite whatever else they announce during their 90 minute conference, this would be the only thing being talked about. The media will insure that, because it's already proven to be a major hit generator for the web sites.

I'd imagine even if they denied the rumors beforehand, they would still deny them during the conference. If it's true, they would likely put out something that goes over the idea briefly, and then expand on it with a lot of PR spin during the reveal. If true, an inordinate amount of time is going to have to be spent on it during the reveal. If false, on sentence is all that's needed.

One thing to keep in mind, it is the bulk of our community which buys these things in the first year. We are their major market for that first year. Wii was just an anomaly in this trend. If you want to know what happens to a console that has trouble selling it's first year...well look at the Wii U. Hated on for no good reason, with pitiful showings from 3rd party, and in Nintendo's case even 1st party support.

Edit:
One thing here, while not related to MS or a rumor, Sony did have a really bad negative scenario in the press with their PSN hack. The E3 following that whole ordeal, it is the very first thing that was addressed by Jack Tretton after greeting the audience. He said what happened, what they did to fix it, what exactly the hack involved in relation to the consumer besides the outage, offered something in return for consumer inconvenience, and then went into a humble PR speech.

While this is still a rumor, the press for it is still almost as bad. It will remain for as long as the issue generates heat among the community, and for the time being, this is the only really negative thing that has any legs to stand on, although I personally doubt it will come to pass.

brave27heart4773d ago

Good question. Am I really in the comments section of N4G??

Whether its true or not they just need to come out and be clear on it. Sony were very clear there wouldnt be backwards compatability and although a lot of flack came their way its better to be open about it than have it come out in an interview post reveal. If the always on features are true for games people are either going to acept it or not, but if MS are open about it people are more likely to accept it.

Its like politicians. We'll accept most things if we believe we're being told the open whole truth. If we find out through some backwards channels we feel lied to and distrust them. MS are best to address these concerns at a reveal and be open about it.

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waltyftm4774d ago

Just got off the phone withh Microsoft head office, the next XboX is a tablet/handheld.

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brave27heart4773d ago

Just got off the phone with Sony. Their updated Vita hardware (release date tbc) doubles as a toaster.

DOMination-4773d ago (Edited 4773d ago )

could the Xbox Mini = Handheld ?

Probably not..

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle9d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

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Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300015d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7214d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit14d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania15d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit14d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0714d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr14d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr14d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9514d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7214d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--14d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7214d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket14d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm14d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde14d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_15d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted14d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit14d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9214d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT15d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers15d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14914d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0714d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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