I don't blame them for being cautious. How anyone expects them to open their arms up to M$ after they tried screwing every gamer possible is beyond me.

On a brighter note i hope M$ provides indies the necessary tools and practices needed to fulfill their visions.

Why didn't they tell indie developers about their plans to let them self-publish?

I am not a big fan of Indie games but, this seems to be good for indie devs and people that are interested in their games.

Why would people even bother with anything M$ makes? All they are doing is changing their minds like Mitt Romney changed his mind every day for votes. Mitt, I mean M$ Romney doesn't care about you or your gaming needs. All they care about is money. Besides M$ is just following Sony's lead. Its like they are the jealous, ugly, younger, dumber brother who c-blocks on his older brothers and can't be happy for them.

And really do you expect M$ to really just change overnight? Like they aren't going to try to scam you later when you've suckered into buying their Spybox One?? How can you trust someone like this? Its like your girlfriend threatening to cheat on you and then saying she was just joking. You will never feel the same way about her again and trust?? Well, that trust is gone and you better find yourself a real woman that will care about you!

Let me tell you about this woman Sony. She is older and more experienced and has more to offer and she doesn't even want your money every month. She isn't a Gold digger (pun intended)and is good for longer relationships. She won't be you just 4 years and then pack up and leave.

Hopefully it's like on the 360, just pay £60 a year for the license

So they're going to hold off the devkit feature until all devs have bought a proper and expensive one?

More games incoming. That there is the bottom line.
PS4 fans can console themselves by saying it is following. in the PS4 footsteps as an attempt at dampening the mood but the fact remains that this is an incredibly good thing.

One less negative against the one is one more positive towards gaming and as a gamer, this pleases me.

OneEighty continues to improve. Next up, more games and features at GamesCon.

They just need to drop mandatory Kinect and they'll have a neat little console on their hands.

Most of them make stuff I would have played 15 yrs ago. I have mixed feeling about letting them self publish. I like that it helps them be free to push their own creative ideas and could lead to new types of games coming to the industry. But that is so rare that I think having them do this on PC is enough. When they can get enough attention there then have them bring the games to console. I don't want clutter to dig through. I want easy access to the best stuff.

No matter what MS does at this point they still wont be able to catch up to Sony.

Sony done a lot right from the start and Microsoft was confused.

Excellent, this was my biggest complaint (after the DRM) about MS and their handling of Indie developers. There was no way they would let Sony and Nintendo let devs self publish and them not.

Good job MS, but seriously, why couldn't this be done on day one? this should have been with the X1 announcement. At least that would have taken some of the flack of your whole DRM push.

My only fear with all these new policy changes and additions that Microsoft is doing, is that it seems a bit rushed but they seem to be gaining ground. I would like to see great self-published stuff from this. Hopefully MS has more surprises coming up at Gamescom.

I am sorry but here is my philosophy.

If I went to a place that serves amazing eggs and bacon every day, from day one, while another place told me, " You know eggs and bacon is really not our thing."

Then why would I go to them when they suddenly say, "hey guess what, we have eggs!" , then a little later they say, "hey guess what, we have bacon." because at that
point all I can tell them is, "thanks mate but I am full already."

If Microsoft had come up with better policies when they announced the Xbox One, they'd realize the vast majority of people that buy consoles are gamers. That is their main market and they already had a fanbase coming into this generation. DRM was a bad move clearly, and they've rectified that. Allowing indie games to publish their own content was another big issue. I feel some of the best games of late have been mostly indie, they have a different feeling what games 'used to be'.

Most AAA titles are rushed and because they depend on being graphically astounding? With a story line to go with it and little time to perfect it. When games like Zelda ocarina of time done it so well, without giant cinematic cutscenes. The point is the gameplay was fun, the puzzles were great. Games used to make you think while enjoying an immersive atmosphere. Instead of these cutscenes and quick time events were if you don't tap a button when they want you too, you have to tap the buttons in order all over again.

There's been great indie games such as Braid, Limbo, Mark of the ninja, Shank 2, The cave, The Swapper, Dust An Elysian Tail, Trials series and so on. A lot of games have lost the feeling of just "play the game and have fun" that they used to do so easily.

Ok sorry, I'm ranting.
Back to the point, I'm glad Microsoft is finally revising horrible policies that were near anti-gaming to begin with. They in a way have only hurt themselves with early pre-orders and in my opinion back in the game. They've lost a purchase from me for the first few years because I've pre-ordered a PS4 already and plan to only have PS4/PC until Xbox One is cheap enough to get. They have changed my mind into even purchasing one and as a company making a gaming console, that's what they need to do. Not push gamers away and focus on a different/newer audience but to keep their fanbase happy to begin with.

Flip flip flop little Xbox One, flip flip flop it's all turned around.

Seriously though, this is better but let's wait and see the details closer to release.

People always say everything is rushed. Just because I don't tell you something until Friday, doesn't mean I thought of it on Thursday. They plan things, then choose when they will make the information public.

This is good news for Indie developers to get some proper exposure now, rather then being stuck in the tiny and stale PC market.

Now Indie developers get to show off their talents to a much bigger and exciting gaming market

Question is, will Microsoft stay true to this?

Question is, are people more interested in Ps4 articles or X1 articles? Because the response from Sony fans show they are more interested in the X1..

So from the article, the indie developers don't seem to care much about fairness. They not only want self publishing (more money and they can do what they want) but they want MS to promote their game as well?

Promoting cost money and time, and since you get to self publish your own game, why don't you self promote it yourself while you are at it? yoU want someone else to promote your product but you dont want to pay for it doesn't sound fair to me.

If I publish your game, then it is my responsibility to promote it to ensure it is successful. But since I'm not and I dont get anything out of it, why should I be responsible for it and you are not?

Some of the shitz people say don't really make any sense do they?