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What If Microsoft’s Next Console Required An Internet Connection?

Could Microsoft destroy its consumer base’s confidence by requiring an always-online Internet connection?

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Good_Guy_Jamal4783d ago

I would not buy it. It's as simple as that for me. But I respect those that would make a different decision.

NukaCola4783d ago

Unless MS blows me away at E3, I'm not going to buy another Xbox. I was too burned this generation with the dashboard turning to windows media live, increase in online pricing, and lack of fresh games. They better show me that these runours are false or I'm out.

BlmThug4783d ago (Edited 4783d ago )

Agreed. I took a risk with MS this gen because before that, I was all Playstation gaming with the odd Nintendo handheld/console. That risk however did not truly work out and after four years of the 360, I sold it and went back to a Playstation and next gen looks like a PS4 day one purchase and maybe 5-6 years after launch, a Nextbox purchase. If there is no Always On though and Forza 5 is present, I may buy it after a year or two

Gazondaily4783d ago

Well I for one wasn't 'burned' this generation. MS took the charge for many years and for many gamers like me who play games online, it was unrivaled as a console as far as the combination of its games, social functionality and ease of use was concerned.

Whilst MS definitely needs to introduce more IP's, the importance of the likes of Halo, Forza and Gears this gen should not be underestimated. They, along with other games such as crackdown and the like gave many of us memorable experiences and the manner in which they were desgined (CO-OP based gameplay in many of these games), I got to enjoy these games with my friends.

I will however, purchase all the consoles because, in the worst case scenario where the Nextbox doesn't have many new exclusives, it will be still be the only home for seminal titles like Halo and the quality and appeal of the latter title to many gamers shouldn't be understimated.

However, Sony are clearly stepping up their game this generation. They are correcting all their mistakes; more social functionality, ease of use with no delays in enjoying your game, more gamer-centic focus. Whilst Sony may never have a Halo-killer, it will no doubt offer a wealth of experiences beyond it with the likes of Destiny and other games in its arsenal.

Still; MS deserve the benefit of the doubt because who would have thought at the beginning of this gen, that they would have come out so strongly and give the likes of Sony so much cause for concern? I certainly didn't. I thought the PS3 would obliterate the competition once it was out.

Time will tell but most important of all, I pray for an ultra-competitive generation with MS, Nintendo and Sony pulling out all the stops to ensure that we're playing on their respective platforms.

sengoku4783d ago (Edited 4783d ago )

M$ will not lose nextgen over this.
they will lose Core gamers.
they have been moving away from core gamers for years so this is no surprise to me.

make up you own mind.

for me i'm all in for PS4 because i feel it has more of the things i want for nextgen.

Baka-akaB4783d ago

While they still had/got good exclusives , it's no secret i dont feel particularly attached to MS exclusives and hate the way te handle their live services . If anything the Ips i cared about went sooner or later multiplatform , and aside from Halo , i dont care enough for their first party games to follow their next console .

Now that's my current state of mind , things could change with their ips , new or otherwise .

What wouldnt change my mind is if the console is forcefully perpetually online .

As a hint of fate , i spent a whole week with constant connection drops and my net finally dying , just because unbeknown to me some douchebag neighbor was renovating his house and manage to damage the phone line .

If i had the currently rumored 720 , what the hell would i be doing ?

Dfooster4783d ago

@sengoku. Nintendo tried moving away from the core gamers and after an initial success they have hit the cliff with the wii u. If Microsoft are following that business model then I wish them all the best.

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CarlosX3604783d ago

When I read this story, I thought "Isn't that the whole point of 'always-on' DRM?"

Yeah, no... Pass.

delboy4783d ago (Edited 4783d ago )

Ms will not lose anything.
Maybe they will lose some core customers/gamers, but that's the minority.
Even if they lose 30% of their current user base, but I think it will be less.
Anyway, there's still millions of casuals or hardcore gamers that doestn't care, all they want is to play the next CoD, BF, GoW, MGS or whatever.
Publishers will be all over it, because the revenue will jump 500% even with smaller install base.
Simple, No used games, No rentals, No piracy, No trading, and they will have total control over game prices.
It's the next step in the industry, just deal with it.
And one more thing, Ps4 doesn't require always online, that's right, but some 3rd party games require it.
In the end it will be to the publishers to decide, just like with online passes this gen.

B-radical4783d ago

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A dear friend of mine @adam_orth is getting a lot of flak, some unfairly. Let me say he's one of the good guys and cut him some slack please

GraveLord4783d ago

It really is that simple. Limit what your console can do and you limit the amount of customers. The video game industry will be fine though. There are alternatives.

3-4-54782d ago

if it has to be always on, and there are a few other iffy things about it, then it might be the first time I buy a Sony Console.

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urwifeminder4783d ago

I will get one day one with drm or without or blocking games for me its not a factor, i allways enjoyed the games they make and will make it my 2nd main gaming unit next to pc.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio11d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing11d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit11d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing11d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay13d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn213d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn213d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown13d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay13d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay13d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac12d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger13d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300013d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde13d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde13d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7514d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_12d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.