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Kinect 2.0 specs have been leaked

TruTechNoid writes "Additional specs of the Kinect 2.0 have been leaked on to the net from the site “noshitsherlock.com” as first reported by “Appy Gamer”

The reported new features are as follows:"

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Knight_Crawler4815d ago (Edited 4815d ago )

The reported new features are as follows:

A mode for sitting or standing

Able to track players with a height of only one meter

Better detection of a players hand state

Tracking of six people up from just two

An improved field of view for a much larger play space

Higher resolution and quality RGB stream

Depth stream is much higher resolution which in turn enables resolve of much smaller objects, separate objects much better and able to capture depth curvature around edges much better

Active infrared enables tracking in low or no light

Latency has been improved by 33ms

USB 3.0

Frame rate up from 15fps to 30fps

Resolution up from 640×480 to 1920×1080

It is reported that the device will go on sale for around $99

Does not sound like a leak but more like educated guesses.

Oh well if true this debunks the leaked documents where Kinect is suppose to be integrated into the 720 " Always on ALways Connected"

Lets face it folks we dont know jack about the 720 and MS has done a great job on keeping it a secret...I mean no leak image of the controller, new Kinect or the system - remember the PS4 controller got leaked but we cannot get nothing but some documents about the 720 that were probably made up by some troll in his moms basement.

Edit - StrongMan what are you about, where did I say anything about leaks being good - I stated that this sounds like educated guesses rather than leaks.

Leaks and rumors should be taken as just and until MS confirms something we should just wait until ES but I know you want the always on always connected rumor to be true so you can sleep better at night.

stage884815d ago

I'm sure the PS3 controller was a controlled leak.
Look how much hype it bought for the Playstation Meeting.

MysticStrummer4815d ago

"Oh well if true this debunks the leaked documents where Kinect is suppose to be integrated into the 720 " Always on ALways Connected"

No it really doesn't. It shows that Kinect 2.0 will be available separately in case people want it on their PC.

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Conzul4815d ago

@stage88
I'm sure nearly EVERY leak is a "controlled" leak.
I'm already where I replace the word "leak" with "tease" when I see it in headlines.

KwietStorm_BLM4815d ago (Edited 4815d ago )

"Lets face it folks we dont know jack about the 720 and MS has done a great job on keeping it a secret.."

Right. Except if it turns out the rumors are true, then we actually do know jack about the Xbox. You can't have it both ways, because like you just said, we don't know. It wouldn't be unreasonable to think the more coherent leaks are true, however, based on the accuracy of PS4 leaks from the same sources. The Dualshock 4 was partially leaked, yes, but we still don't know what the PS4 looks like, and we don't know who leaked the controller. Its not uncommon for manufacturers in the tech world to leak things themselves, to get free press and "user" feedback.

GameNameFame4815d ago (Edited 4815d ago )

720 Spec was not made up by some fanboy. MS's entire server was hacked. and MS had him arrested. you are just denying cause it is extremely weak. It was 100 page document in excruciating detail on how weak it is.

I love how you praise MS being tight lipped and secure.

U do realize their dev console went on sales on EBAY.. right? hahah

BattleAxe4814d ago

All I have to say about this is YUCK!

dcbronco4814d ago

@GameNameFame

One of the things mention SuperDAE mentioned was the Durango had a better design. If you trust what he leaked then you believe the 720 is better than the PS4 then?

vet_medic4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

We have plenty of leaks from vgleaks and their news were mostly spot on, other than 8gig for ps4 but even internal devs didnt know that, so its hard to believe that everything they reported on 720 is wrong.

So yes, we know quite a bit.

NewMonday4814d ago

not a KINECT fan but technically this a good improvement, the most important things here:

* Depth stream is much higher resolution
* Active infrared enables tracking in low/no light
* Latency has been improved by 33ms
* Frame rate up from 15fps to 30fps(<<this)
* Resolution up from 640×480 to 1920×1080

mix this up with AR glasses and you may get a new Wii like craze.

ziggurcat4814d ago

"Oh well if true this debunks the leaked documents where Kinect is suppose to be integrated into the 720 " Always on ALways Connected""

rumours are rumours, obviously - i don't take any rumour as anything until the info comes from the horse's mouth.

but this is MS we're talking about... (and i'm being facetious here) they could very well charge you extra for kinect 2.0 by selling it as a separate peripheral even if it might be required to use the next xbox.

frankly, i would be very shocked if that rumour turned out to be true - it just seems a little too far fetched.

DeadlyFire4814d ago

Pretty sure Sony wanted people to see their prototype PS4 controller early enough to swap it back to original design if they had to do so. They tried doing a new controller for PS3 and reaction was so bad they shifted back to Dual shock/Sixaxis design.

This Kinect improvement means games at 30fps for Kinect. Why would they even market it with 15 fps? Might actually look like an okay device in motion then.

Buff10444814d ago

Wow 47 disagrees for just stating what was reported. N4G a Sony fan website? Nah.

Gamer19824814d ago

That cam has the specs of a cam thats priced around £00 right now I seriously cannot see them being able to sell as low as £99/$99.. Those are either seriously wrong specs or the wrong price also makes me think if it does come with every console its gonna cost quite a bit more than the ps4 unless they cut back hardware. Kinect 2.0 could be what wins PS4 the next gen war..

GameNameFame4814d ago

When did i say i trust SuperDAE?

I trust the 100 page detailed documents that he hacked and was confirmed by the "inside sources" from IGN, EuroGamer Digital Foundry, Kotaku and etc.

Last time he checked he didnt even have as much as he had on PS4 as he did on 720.

Btw, Digital Foundry did a comparison. They say PS4 is better design. Now stop trying to deny it and make stuff up.

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SDF Repellent4815d ago

Strongman and mysticstrummer, lol, always here to provide there in-depth analysis to anything Xbox related.

Gildarts4815d ago

if this is true then it would be a big mistake. it means kinect will not be bundled with the 720. which means not everyone will have it. Which means developers will have to make games seperately for the kinect owners. Which means less developer support. If the kinect is always there developers can always make use of it without worrying about it not being there, resulting in unique experiences only found on Xbox 720. Microsoft knows this. It might be the 720's killer app because it will be part of the 720 experience not just some optional pheripheral.

NeoTribe4814d ago

Kinect sucked this gen and will suck next gen. Making fps and resolution better isnt gonna save a boring gimmick. If thats the 720 experience count me out.

oof464814d ago

No, they sell it separately so when your kinect red rings, you can buy a new one.

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GalacticEmpire4815d ago (Edited 4815d ago )

"It is reported that the device will go on sale for around $99"

This part makes me doubt this whole leak, it's far more likely that MS will bundle Kinect 2 in with xbox 3. If they want Kinect to get support from devs other than 1st party they will have to be certain that their entire userbase has one. Not sure if that's as smart a move as it seems because putting an extra $99 on top of a new console's price could be bad for sales.

Godmars2904815d ago

For one thing you might be able to use it with the 360, for another if its true you need one for Xbox3, it has to be connected, you'll need to buy another should the first break.

GalacticEmpire4815d ago

You're right, I didn't think it through all that well.

My point about the price bumping still stands. Kinect is a bit of a double edged sword in that respect, both attracting the casual gamers MS want so desperately to court but, at the same time, inflating the price of Xbox 3 making it less attractive to that same demographic.

If I were MS I'd try and fool the core into thinking Kinect 2 will be appeal to them, like they did last time. At least until the price drops into casual range.

MikeMyers4815d ago (Edited 4815d ago )

It might work on the Xbox 360 but limited since the Xbox 360 does not support USB 3.0

I would hope the new Xbox does not require this new Kinect. All that would do is inflate the cost. I understand that if it is in every system it will be much more likely to be supported by game developers but I'm still not convinced it has that much use in gaming.

"Frame rate up from 15fps to 30fps"

It only did 15fps? That's not very good.

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Godmars2904815d ago

As part of a bundle I can't see it contributing more than $40-$50 to overall price. Then there will likely be leasing deals through cable/internet providers which will make it seem cheap to general consumers. Probably a lot of gamers too.

AngelicIceDiamond4815d ago (Edited 4815d ago )

That pretty much squashes the rumor about Kinect having to be plugged in for the console to function properly.

And if that's the case what if the thing breaks? Then you have to shell out an extra 100$, these rumors are stupid...

@Knight My bad these rumors are spinning completely outta control now. Even got me spinning in circles.

DragonKnight4815d ago

A rumour squashes another rumour?

SDF Repellent4815d ago

Another thing might be the chance of cross platforms play befweene the nextbox and pc. The x360 controller is alreadyq the standard for gamepad on the PC, now by making the Kinect a standard on PC, cross platform games like Battlefields can integrate this concept of controller and motion and voice control.If cross platform gaming is a reality with both Xbox and Games for Windows and Xbox Live tieing it together, that might be a killer feature for MS next gen.

DragonKnight4815d ago

"Another thing might be the chance of cross platforms play befweene the nextbox and pc."

That'll never happen. Microsoft will never be that open. They had every opportunity to do so this gen and chose not to. PS3 already has a couple of cross-platform games so expect more from the PS4.

"The x360 controller is alreadyq the standard for gamepad on the PC."

Says you. There is no standard.

"now by making the Kinect a standard on PC."

Also not gonna happen.

"If cross platform gaming is a reality with both Xbox and Games for Windows and Xbox Live tieing it together, that might be a killer feature for MS next gen."

Except that that's a fantasy that will never happen because it requires Microsoft giving up control and no one likes GFWL. Be realistic.

maniacmayhem4814d ago

@Dragon

"PS3 already has a couple of cross-platform games so expect more from the PS4."

360 has a couple of cross-platform games too. And with MS trying to integrate all their devices and OS I would think they might try more for cross play for the next Xbox.

"Says you. There is no standard."

A lot of PC games, especially ports from consoles on Steam use and support the 360 controller as default. So it could be considered standard.

"Be realistic."

How about trying to be optimistic. He's not saying this is written in stone he's just giving his thoughts on the topic.

JamieL4814d ago

@ maniacmayham
You are trying to reason with a troll. He obvious doesn't do any research, or have any clue what he's talking about. FF11 on the 360 even let you play with the 6 PS2 users who bought the game as well as the PC players. There are more than that, Shadowrun, even though it sucked did as well. I also think that the 360 controller is the standard gamepad for PC for the same reason you stated. You could make a full time job of tracking this guy and removing his foot from his mouth, but it's just not worth it. Let him live in his Sony run PS dream world, he's not hurting anyone.
I do have to admit it's strange such a blatent troll has so many bubbles, weird.

hazardman4815d ago

Not really, they can still have a sku that's not bundled with Kinect. They just have to make sure that all skus have large hard drives. Which is far more important to devs than kinect.

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SlavisH24815d ago

i love how there are 2 articles a day about xbox specs LEAKED. Someone is lying :P

GadgetGooch4815d ago

:D I know what you mean but it's always the same when new hardware is on the horizon and I don't think it will ever change, There's got to be an element of truth within it all somewhere :)

Good_Guy_Jamal4815d ago

So it's gonna be sold separate from the main console? All these conflicting leaks.
I'm not going to believe anything I read about kinect 2.0 because I fell for the project natal hype and got burned pretty badly!

TheFallenAngel4815d ago

Man everybody did. They swore that milo was real and stuff like that. When my brother first got it, we were all excited but we got bored with it pretty quick. Same way with PS move, I got bored of it. I prefer the good old controller.

StrongMan4815d ago

Tell me about it. I'm still waiting to be able to scan my skateboard and other objects with Kinect and use it in game like MS promised. And what about MS promising 4 people can play Kinect at once? Now the leak is saying 6 players, yeah right. MS has made a reputation for over promising and under delivering and I won't fall for it again.

die_fiend4815d ago

I agree kinect is probably bull, wouldn't know tho cos I'm not a sucker. However, you're saying u won't fall for it again? U do realise MS aren't saying these things right? It's a rumour

Lvl_up_gamer4815d ago (Edited 4815d ago )

So much ignorance.

If you look at the video where you are getting the whole scanning of the skateboard feature, you will see in the bottom right hand corner @ 0:03 clearly saying:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

"Product Vision: Actual features and functionality may vary."

It's called a disclaimer. The video is just a product vision that MS had for kinect.

Please show me where MS promised to be able to scan a skateboard?

Also, you clearly don't own a kinect or have used one let alone know what games are out there for kinect.

There is a FREE XBLA title called Kinect Fun Labs googly eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/resu...

You will notice you can scan ANY object and manipulate it within the game. So even though MS DIDN'T promise that so called scanning a skateboard feature, they DID produce a game where they live up to the scanning of an object and using it within a game...yes, even a skateboard.

As for playing 4 players at once. Ubisoft's Just Dance 3 DOES allow up to 4 players at once.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

So there you have it Strongman, your ignorance has been pointed out. So although MS DIDN'T promise anything, they have delivered on every negative aspect you were just complaining about.

So it would appear that MS DID live up to their expectations on what KINECT is capable of doing, you're just too ignorant to know better and would rather spread your BS FUD like usual.

You have been marked for trolling. Again, like usual.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio37d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing37d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9237d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit37d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing37d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9237d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay39d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn240d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn239d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown39d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay39d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay39d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac39d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger40d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300039d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde39d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde39d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7541d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_38d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.