LOL, no. Nintendo has never been about graphical power, they are more about gameplay and fun. The Wii could have and should have been "crippled" by the 360 and PS3, but it wasn't.

The Wii U is a full HD machine and will put out some impressive games, it is sad that third parties seem to not like the Nintendo consoles, but Nintendo has the first party games to survive. People always knock the Gamecube, but that actually made Nintendo money because it was so cheap to make, so even though they didn't sell a ton of them, they made profit.

We have to remember that Nintendo owns the handheld market, and they are coming off the Wii, they have plenty of time to get things going in the right direction.

I think perhaps Wii U but not Nintendo as a whole.

I think the Wii-U crippled Nintendo.

WiiU = The next Gamecube

Nintendo is going to rely heavily on the DS this gen.

Even I a big fan of Nintendo have to say that if things keeps like this(No UE4, No Frostbite 3, etc, etc) it wont just left behind, it will die.

Nintendo should left the console market to Sony and Microsoft but stay in the Handheld market where they are the leaders. Or even start making Gaming Phones. That would be a big hit for Nintendo.

I think so to a degree. The other 2 consoles are just way more powerful and I don't think dev's want to put a ton of time having to degrade their games. That and its obvious some devs are skipping out on the Wii U all together anyway. So many people see the Wii U as an addon. In fact, a friend of mine thought that exact same thing. They need to re-market this thing better and get some games. Otherwise it won't be pretty.

I don't think next-gen will cripple them, but it's not going to help them either. Nintendo shouldn't have worried so much about taking a loss on each Wii unit sold and added some better stuff under the hood. It worked out for them with the Wii, but now people are wise to them and arent going to purchase their new unit, when they know whats right around the corner.

Cripple? No. Make them re-think their business strategy? Maybe.

Ehhh... I think it'll be a kick in the dick for them, but I doubt Nintendo will be going anywhere any time soon.

Good read and not one sided but I think people are expecting to much from the sales of the ps4 and next Xbox.

Gaming has changed alto over the last 7 years and Nintendo opened up the gaming door to everyone not just gamers with the Wii. Now Tablets have taken over the none core market with there pickup and play games and this will have an impact on all 3 console sales next gen.

As things stand with games like Lego city, mariou, Mario kart ect this will help kids want a Nintendo console as well as the core who can't get enough of the Nintendo games.

Also depending on the price of the ps4 and next Xbox could also help Nintendo over the Xmas sale as alot of parents wont want to spend £400 on a new console.

The other reason why 3rd party games have sold low on the Wiiu is because most people who want cod or batman already have a 360 or ps3 to get this game for so why spend £300 on a console for a £40 game you can get on your current console?.

I don't see the ps4 or next Xbox flying off the shelves this Xmas to esp if games like me3 gt6 and bf4 are in current gen consoles to.

Also there seems to be doom and gloom about every console released now it was the ps3 until the 3ds came out then it was the psv and now the Wiiu. I expect there will be alot for the ps4 and next Xbox when they are out.

I see all 3 selling very well once support for this gen console ends around 18 months after the consoles are released like all the other gens. I also thing the total consoles sold will only have a few million between the best selling and lest selling.

Nintendo is better off cutting bait at this moment. You can't keep support for system entirely on 1st party games. Sega tried it and it failed with the Dreamcast. You have third party developers pissed off their titles not breaking 100,000 units sold with most of EA games selling under 50,000 units.

As I mentioned in my other post Nintendo needs to clean house in their R&D department, no way in the hell they should have let this system roll off the assembly lines being barely faster than current gen. Come on now, a CPU with the core design dating back to the late 90's? An OS taking 1 Gig of memory? I mean who in the hell puts slow 12 Gbps DDR 3 memory in with an average GPU by 2010 standards? Memory bandwidth is only twice as the first Xbox 6.4 Gbps. Looking at Nintendo recently history is very frustrating, I don't want to see them end up like Sega and Atari releasing crap third party games on foreign systems.

Here's the thing that people must understand! Saying that an engine doesn't support a system and or that a system can't run the engine are two very different things entirely... Not one of the company figure heads said that the WiiU is incapable of running their engines. All that anyone has heard or read them state is that the WiiU is not supported in coding of the engine. Which is why Mark Rein's initial statement on this whole matter makes more sense. (That no the WiiU isn't being supported by them from the outset, but if a developer so chooses to bring their game to the WiiU its up to them if they so choose to do that. Because UE4 is a very scalable platform and many devices will be supported.) The GPU feature set is what determines if a piece of hardware can utilize a graphic engine, not pure processing power.

I really Feel bad for Nintendo...

But if I were Nintendo I would shave off some of the wii U's internal flash ram and add it to the wii U's 2 gigs of RAM.

The PS4/720 could cripple a lot of developers and publisher's if their games fail to sel a certain amount.

hard to say look how well the wii did, but then again alot of ppl have their wii's collecting dust. Maybe they wont make the same mistake ;)

wii cripples the wii U already...so next gen will do more damage.

They likely won't sell as many WiiU as wii, but they will be fine. I like playing good games, I assume other people do too. If so, then the system will sell, not to the cod crowd or PC elitist graphics whores, but it will sell to gamers.

There hardware will be seriously outdated when the PS4 and the next xbox will be released. That alone will cause problems we are already seeing with lack of third party support.

Nintendo will do what it does best rely on its high quality first party studios.

A man will get WiiU when he knows he can play Mario Kart and SSB with his friends on it. A man will also be enjoying original Zelda (and WWHD), Mario 3d, and DKC but the other 2 are his main Nintendo appealers.

Lol you gotta love it when an idiot like Mark Rein puts his foot in his mouth... This comment comes from the latest interview with Engadget! Classic tool baggery.

(During the presentation the day before, another journalist asked if Unreal Engine 4 would work on Nintendo's Wii U -- a console that straddles the line between next-gen and the current one in terms of horsepower. "Hahahaha, no," he responded, which sent a wave of laughter through the room of journalists. But that's not technically true, he admitted the next day, walking back his gaffe. "You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U," he said. "If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen." While that game might not look as pretty as it would on a "true" next-gen console, the new engine is scalable to a variety of platforms, including mobile.)

http://www.engadget.com/201...

Not to mention why would anyone in their right mind in his position jeopardize possible future business revenues with Nintendo by making a stupid thoughtless comment? Its like these hardware engineers and developers want the rockstar status so badly, I'm waiting for them to break out snorting a line of coke on stage at E3 to prove how cool they can be...

Definitely not, they have enough money in the bank to have a few failed consoles. If the Wii U does flop (which I honestly don't think it will, look at how rocky the PS3's life started out compared to it now) Nintendo could easily pick up the pieces and try again, learning from their mistakes.

It is disappointing that third party engines aren't going to be on the system, especially since Unreal 4 is going to be able to be scaled to mobile devices. How it will work for an IPad but not the WiiU confuses me, and having everyone laughing when asked is insulting, but hey, whatever.

What's really frustrating is that third parties continue to blame Nintendo fans for lack of success on Nintendo systems. Now, part of this is based in fact (aka Madworld), but a bigger issue is with the developers themselves.

Bioware and Mass Effect 3 are a perfect example. Instead of releasing the entire ME trilogy like they did on the other two consoles during WiiU launch, they released just ME3 and failed to include any add-on content or even plan to release said content later on. So instead of the entire complete series, Nintendo fans get a year old full-priced port with no hope of getting anywhere near the same of amount of content as it's 360/PS3 counterparts.

Other companies did the same by only supporting the console with old games, and few of the newer titles listed WiiU as a supported console. So with all of that, the publishers go and say "see, no third party games sell on this console. It's junk."

Of course, Nintendo hasn't done itself any favors either. I still haven't picked up a WiiU yet because there just aren't enough games to justify it. Having a dry-spell less than a half a year after launch isn't a confidence booster. And acting like getting year old ports is a great thing, doesn't help matters either. It's too bad, because the system itself has so much potential.

im sorry but nintendo is junk. Its not even a real gaming console. Its a childs toy with hardly any good games on it. This is just my opinion tho. Nintendo does have ALOT of people to back up the brand.

Its just not for me. Its a kiddie toy with mediocre games that has nothing spec wise going for it. I did not buy the Wii cause I thought it was a POC but I did invest in the Wii U and honestly I took it back was not that great

Thats a lot of weight on Nintendo's shoulders to be pumping out 1st party titles non stop because they have no third party support

i don't believe so. will they become no. 1 just like last gen (in terms of sales, Wii is still no. 1 compared to PS3 and Xbox360)? possibly not.

but i'm pretty much certain that once more 1st and 2nd party titles come out and other 3rd party (exclusives or not), sales will pick up. and some of those are already coming soon.

sales will most likely pick up also next holiday season when the PS4 and Xbox 720's probably launched and if they prove to be considerably priced high. at the moment, rumors and speculations suggest that PS4 and the next Xbox will be priced around $400 at least (and probably higher, given the tech Sony announced). given those factors, when you're a parent on a tight budget you'll most likely get the cheaper console. oh, and i'm guessing Nintendo will be dropping the Wii U price by then, making it considerably more attractive to parents who buy console for their kids.

An HD Smash Bros. title, with a competent online network (including Miiverse)?

X? Retro Studios? They haven't even started yet.

Pure fanbait garbage.

You don't stay around for over 100 years (look it up) and learn a few things. The answer is no, let's mover along people.

Eh, probably not. As opposed to Sony or Microsoft and most of the industry, Nintendo can afford to have a failed console and then make a second attempt. However, it is probably too soon to say the Wii U will be a failure. Almost none of its games have come out, and it really has not been advertised much to the public yet. Also, the Wii U is kinda in a position to be a second console,it will never conflict with having a PS4 or 720. Besides that, we don't know if the entire industry is just going to jump onto Unreal Engine 4 so quickly. The big developers will, but the increasing costs is gonna make it riskier and riskier for smaller developers to jump in. Some may just stick with 3 or go to a cheaper and different style engine.

At this stage it's all about being profitable as a company with the Wii U. The idea of being the industry leader once again right now is next to impossible.

I think nintendo well be just fine because they follow a simple business plan. Make sure hardware you sell makes money or lose just a little bit. Make sure console appeals to everyone so it can sell to a bigger market. Make sure games are fun. I cant tell you guys how many times i bring my wii u over other people's houses and they fall in love with it because they can actually use it. And bam they want one. So if games come out on it that people want they will sell, they just need to come out with those games

How about you just wait and find out?

They better get some great games out (without being rushed & 1/2 assed) as well as drop the price before PS4 is even shown.. Then they can get peoples attention away from sony & build a comfortable install base... This isnt going to happen but idk.. Theyre trying to do their own thing which is fine by me.. But damn, do something thats attractive.. Not a sub-sub HD single touch gamepad with wii mote compatibility.. Not enough people give a damn about that..

Their portable market is more than enough to carry them through if the Wii U doesn't deliver the gold.

What has crippled Nintendo is the fact that the audience has grown up,and they refuse to recognize that.

Don't we say this every year? Nintendo is here to stay, no matter what ps4 or the next Xbox does.

Do the Playstation Vita cripple the Nintendo 3DS?

The way more advanced graphics in the Vita do in no way cripple the 3DS. This we all know by now.

Nintendo is all about the exclusive games. So the answer is no.

Nintendo haven't arrived in next gen!

Depends how good their first part stuff is.

I still don't get why people hate on Nintendo. According to ign they have 4 games on the top ten games of all time. And last time I checked Sony loves Nintendo's techniques such as the PSMove, a pseudo Miiverse community and totally using Nintendo 's system of Crossplay (remember GC and GB????) And also going with Nintendo-esque types of franchises (come on, it doesnt seem that obvious but look at a few of Sony's platformers). And just saying I don't hate Sony, its just their fanbase I can't stand, and I don't really want to bash on Sony either. And btw I consider myself a gamer, and I had an.Xbox and played a PlayStation often, and I still stuck with a Wii as my main console not cause of Wii Sports (I hate that) no cause of Okami, and Zelda, and.Mario and Metroid and all those titles that are often made fun of by the gaming community, and iI enjoyed them.more ethan Halo or call of duty (every mission is go in kill everyone get out!!!!!!!!) And tell you the funniest part? I'm a thirteen.year old who has been gaming for 7 years and praised the PlayStation in every way until I saw the awesomeness of Nintendo.

Nope.

The next gen consoles will run circles around the Wii-U. Nintendo may have a solid first party line up like Zelda, Metroid and Star Fox to name a few. But if you have a big title like say Batman or Tomb Raider and say they are a multiplatform titles. They would look great on the PS4 and the Xbox720 but then who would go out and $60 for that same title and play it on a machine that has the same looks as a PS3 and an Xbox360. And I do have a Wii-U I honestly think Nintendo should have waited to release the Wii-U. And released it the sametime as the PS4 and the Xbox720 I see when PS4 and Xbox720 come to market unless its Nintendos solid first party line up selling I see the Wii-U getting left in the dark. Like the Wii when the PS3 and 360 came out. The Wii was fun and I admit Nintendo did some cool shit with the console. But I see the Wii as a kids console or a gimmick. The Wii did good at first but it had its 15 min of fame. I can't see Nintendo releasing a new machine when the PS4 and the 720 come out they would lose more money scrapping the Wii-U and starting from scratch again. As much as people call the Wii-U a next gen console I don't a next gen console has better graphics and next gen technology in it. I consider the Wii-U as a current gen console with current gen graphics and current gen technology basically a Wii with HD graphics.

Nintendo is going to have to do something quickly with the Wii-U. It could be the console that saves them or it could be the console that kills them. Personally I don't want Nintendo out of the console race I enjoy my NES up to my Wii-U.

Everybody says that the Wii U will be saved by Nintendo's 1p titles. I don`t like that Nintendo can get away with release low spec console just by releasing a mario or zelda.

Then again Nintendo knows they can get away with it.

I can't deny that the prospect of playing a TRUE next-gen version of Mario or Zelda on the PS4 or 720 is an exciting thought.

Wuchang is great. Nine Sols didn’t have a physical copy so I never played it but I’ve heard good things so I will check it out. I stopped playing sports games many years ago when before the card dlc’s or whatever they’re called.

Last comment… ):

Great month for others, but not me. Hate soccer and soulslikes. Maybe Nine Sols is good.

🫡 it was fun while it lasted, N4G.

FC26!

I hated that he died. The game was good but you never want to see a character you can relate or enjoy to die off like that. We wanted more Joel not less. Still a really good game but that part will always sit poorly with many

I really didn’t mind his fate. It was the way it was executed was the problem

Not gonna lie, I think they made a big mistake. I mean I like a big unimaginable shock moments as much as the next person. It was just too soon though. If you’re going to kill off the main character you need a solid back up that people love just as much to carry the weight of the loss. If you’re setting it up for a trilogy then he really should have died at the end of 2 or half way through 3.

Who cares, that was like 6 years ago.

I don't mind the story, I think it is interesting in its own. But I would much prefer it stays as a story between Joel and Ellie (And I don't hate Abby, but it just feels like a third wheel when I play the game, feel like it is not a story about her). Joel can live with the consequences in a different way than just get killed off, his emotional conflicts between him and Ellie, Abby and everyone else would have a lot of interesting stories to tell, not any less than just get killed off.

So we as players, who controlled Joel in the first game, can get immersed and feel the guilt with him, instead of getting angry that he got killed.

TLOU Part 2 was a great game, but the entire game made me mad

Personally I liked that they killed off Joel, his death scene was great. The story was good and how revenge drives a person. The last quarter of the game was dumb after Tommy told Ellie where Abby was located. She leaves the farm goes in an arduous trek killing many more people along the way. Finds Abby in a cage releases her they fight, Ellie gets two fingers bitten off, and suddenly she doesn’t want to fight and kill Abby anymore, lets her leave with a warning even though she was the one losing the fight. Why go the rough all of that hassle just to let the focus of your hatred just leave. Should have stwyed home with Diana and keep all her fingers intact. Still a great game with a good story and I liked Abby I saw no reason for all her hate.

They could have killed Tommy and made it a revenge story with Joel and Ellie going after Abbie.

ND was trying so hard to make me sympathize with Abbie and it just wasn't working. I just don't understand how you make a "revenge is bad story" while having me mow through hundreds of NPCs just to get to the main culprit and just...not finish the job. Druckman is a terrible story teller.