IGN writes: "World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 on Xbox was, and still is, one of the greatest football games to ever hit store shelves. It played like football, moved like football, pretty much everything in Winning Eleven 9 looked and felt like the original article. It didn't have the glitz and the glamour of the EA Sports alternative but in the way of purely authentic football fun, there was simply no equal. The series' first effort on next-gen consoles (which, at the time, was only Xbox 360) was solid but couldn't compare to what the gaming public had seen prior. Winning Eleven, like all franchises, had to go through some growing pains before making another run at the cup".
This Is My Joystick NEW Celebrity Games Columnist OJ Borg Laments The Death Of The PS2.
The power of the PS2 was the social aspect; that dragged Gamers in. Nowadays we don’t need to see, smell or entertain our friends as we have Xbox Live and the shabby PS3 online thing, but back then, we used to have to be in the same room to play these games. This wasn’t a new thing, but the games just made it all-encompassing.
Games like Tekken Tag Tournament were great for a night of lazy boozing and gaming. Track and Field with a Multi-Tap was where we would give different names to the competition, depending on who was there (“AAA” if it was the poorer player’s, right up to an Olympics once every four weeks). We even had a little drugs scandal, when we decided to ban the use of socks on fingers to help mash the buttons.
The PS2 was a once in a lifetime machine, but honestly I hadn't seen a new one available here in the states in almost 5 years. The news that they have ceased production worldwide is basically symbolic.
The epic fight between the two soccer giants Pro Evolution Soccer and FIFA has been going on for over 10 years now. Cynamite takes a look at the scores from both games and shows, at which point PES overtook the FIFA series.
PS1/PS2 - PES by far
360/PS3 - FIFA by far
I can't see that changing until the next generation of consoles.
Fifa 10 was good, but have you seen Fifa 11? NOt that much of a step up from 10. Pro Evo 2010 was not that good, but so far, what I've seen of Pro Evo 2011 blows anything and everything Fifa out of the water.
Pro Evo is back to reclaim the number 1 spot.
just because pes has improved alot over pes 10 dont mean much, its still the same robotic game it has been for a while. and if you have played fifa 10 then moved to 11 its improved on a lot on what was already a great game.
agreed, pes11 is an improvement on last yr but it still lags way behind fifa at this point.. all the same issues that make it bad are still their
pes was good till 2011
it's a fail - they tried to change the gameplay for good but they ruined it
It's a shame that people such as yourself are still stuck in the dark days, clinging onto the hope that PES will be what it once was.
I was a huge fan of PES back in the day - as big as you could get, really - and I still believe that PES 5 and 6 are the best football games of all time. But I played the PES 2011 demo and deleted it after two games, because it's just horrible. Passing is decent, but that's about it; the player movement still borders on robotic, shooting is way too floaty and the presentation is mediocre.
If you really believe that the 'King' is back, then you must have a very short memory. PES this generation has absolutely nothing on the old games, nor does it have anything on FIFA this gen either; its rival is superior in almost every way.
It's actually a step down, they ruined the Fifa 10 formula and this is coming from a Fifa player. Am not a PES fan so i really don't know if the new one is good or not. My angle is the fact that EA messed up Fifa 11, i have spoken to many diehard fifa fans that feel the same way. Some are considering to just stick with 10 and see what 12 is like.
FIFA 11 is superior to FIFA 10 in practically every way, without a doubt. I find it laughable that anyone could think any different.
FIFA 10 was a great game, but it had way too many flaws. FIFA 11 is a much more refined experience, and is all the better for it.
2000 - 2005 -> PES dominated since the PS1 days but then it came PES 2006 it was a major letdown
2006 - NOW -> Fifa started to show its quality on this current gen and it evolved year after year while PES was still way behind.
A shame that games like "This is football" just vanished during the PS2 days
pes2011 is much different from any next gen pes, this is really a huge improvement
Its funny to read or talk to the FIFA fanboy they cant accept the true and hate PES.
If you go to the FIFA forums they talk Bs. About pes and they hate it.
In the Pes forums they respect Fifa and many will be getting the two and we aré confidente that PES11 is better and the kind is back
Boomtown writes: "No rivalry in the world of gaming is fiercer than the one between competing football franchises. It almost mirrors the strength of feeling people have for their club. Crossing the divide to support another franchise is a relatively rare occurrence. There are two major derby matches in the football gaming calendar and they feature a bitter enmity which has built up over the last few years. The first is Pro Evolution versus FIFA and the second is Championship Manager versus Football Manager."
pro evo become more popular on xbox
than on playstation.the first 360 outing was
far from being at par with the old gen versions.
and the new version still has some catch up to do.
even seabass admitted this.
This is why this game scored so high regardless of the lack of content, poor next gen graphics when in gameplay mode, broken online mode and game play problems (dodgy physics and hopeless keepers not to mention frame rate problems)
I used to buy pro evo every year but traded my 2008 copy in for fifa in December. never thought this would happen but im glad i did and after the poor pes 6 (360) and now this i believe Konami just don't care any more and have got lazy. I reckon they think they can milk the public regardless and i for one will not be buying the next iteration unless Konami make a massive turn around. Tired of being let down this gen.
... and having played Pro Evo 5 on a daily basis for over 2 years, PES2008 is extremely disappointing, gameplay-wise.
The AI blatantly cheats, the keepers are absolutely useless, your teammates are IDIOTS, and the shooting is alot crappier than ever before.
To me, it looks OK, not great, but I'm not demanding about graphics as long as the gameplay is good (which it isnt, in this game)
The new commentary was needed, but it's too limited and you keep hearing the same lines over and over and over and over again.
This is the 2nd year in a row that Konami has released a very poor and disappointing PES/Winning Eleven. I cant even believe they are still charging full-price for this product, cause they should be ashamed of this effort.
I really hope PES2009 will right all the current wrongs, but if I'm brutally honest, I'm affraid it will be another disappointment.
Konami doesnt listen to the fanbase (why are the penalties STILLLLLL crap!? Where's the coin-toss? Where's the Premier League licenses? Where's an improved Master League? Why is the online still horrible? Why are the graphics still based on the old engine? etc etc...)
Gameplay-wise, PES5 is still the best football game. And even that game wasnt perfect and had some serious flaws.
Dont get me wrong, I LOVE PES5... but you'd think they would have improved on it by now... yet instead the gameplay has turned worse. Such a shame.
But since 2007, I learnd to Fifa08 lmao. Last years pro evo sucks.and really,360 and ps3 owners, I cnt believe Im saying ths,bt Fifa ,since fifa08,is the way to go.
PES2008 is terrible, FIFA08 all the way