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Nvidia Slam PS4, But Is Power Everything?

Vibox delve into Nvidia's recent outlandish statements about the PS4, question rhe next generation's impact on the future of PC gaming and wonder if it really is all about numbers and spec sheets.

chukamachine4825d ago

Nvidia is slamming AMD, and PS4. Because they don't want people to be satisfied with PS4. Nvidia want people to build a gaming rig and put a titan in it,lol.

iGAM3R-VIII4825d ago

Agreed, when a company doesn't get their way, they usually trash it. I think if AMD do really well with the PS4 and Xbox, Nvidia would lose their spot in the Next-next-Gen consoles.

Hydrolex4824d ago

You know, they have been complaining too much about the PS4, so it really shows that they are butt hurt that Sony didn't kiss their butts and go with them...

Hydrolex4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

Nvidia is on her period

Lior4824d ago

They never had a spot in the next gen consoles anyway your much better off building a good spec pc with amd or nvidia regardless, the next gpus of these consoles will be low to mid end spec

ginsunuva4824d ago

There are no next-next-gen consoles. After this it's all cloud. And guess who has the largest upcoming cloud technology that everyone is using.... Nvidia!

And mobile market is making 100x+ more money than consoles, and guess who's at the forefront of mobile computing.... Nvidia!

Why would anyone worry about consoles? Nvidia doesn't even care much for pc gpus anymore.
Now their focus is all on GRID and Tegra.

WrAiTh Sp3cTr34824d ago

When did Nvidia slam anything?

kneon4824d ago

Nvidia have no hope in the console market unless the console makers switch to arm. They can't make an integrated x86 CPU/GPU

nnotdead4824d ago

@ginsunuva

we really can't say for sure whether another box will be released next gen. we are all sure cloud gaming is the future, but how soon it comes depends isp companys. not just speed matters but also data caps.

i do think you are right about next gen being mostly if not all about the cloud. which makes the up coming gen more important. MS and Sony will be pushing the cloud a lot, and whoever wins will already have a customer base for their future streaming gaming market place. not to mention if Steam gets involved. i'm unsure how involved with Nvidia any of these, or other big players are with each other.

Qualcomm still dominates Tegra in Phones. though Nvidia has been doing well in tablets, they just lost the Nexus platform to Qualcomm. future is pretty unsure for them as of right now.

why wouldn't Nvidia care about their GPU business? it still brings in 3-4x's the profit of their Tegra business. it would be crazy for them to just not care about most of their profits.

kikoano4824d ago

Wrong PS4 its very bad for dev its close system its bad for players too get pc and you have everyting.And there is only 10 000 nvidia titans made and they are already sold.

Ritsujun4823d ago

Having talented developers like NaughtyDog, SantaMonicaStudios, GuerillaGames to utilize the power to push the outdated hardware to its limit IS everything.

tarbis4823d ago

ginsunuva:
For a company that doesn't care about console sure have lots to say about them.
And putting the most powerful gpu mobile is big waste. Because no mobile developer is gonna use the full potential of it. Mobile developers only cares about making a game that can turn into a quick buck using microtransactions. They'll just make the game pretty using the gpu then use the most basic physics available then be done with it.

badz1494823d ago

"There are no next-next-gen consoles. After this it's all cloud. And guess who has the largest upcoming cloud technology that everyone is using.... Nvidia!"

which one is it? "upcoming" or "everyone IS using"? their grid system is promising but we are still not there yet, dude!

"And mobile market is making 100x+ more money than consoles, and guess who's at the forefront of mobile computing.... Nvidia!"

forefront? I'm pretty sure it's ARM not nVidia's Tegra and it's not going to change anytime soon as the 2 biggest mobile giants at the moment - Samsung and Apple both use ARM!

MysticStrummer4823d ago

"your much better off building a good spec pc with amd or nvidia regardless,"

Yeah, so I can play games I don't much care about in high detail. Sounds amazing. smh

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Zha1tan4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

Titan is seriously one of the worst cards in terms of price/performance ratio.

andrewer4824d ago

The price looks fine IMO. It's the most powerful one to date, Nvidia can price it balls and no one can complain...Wait for competition to get there (what will take some time actually) and the price will drop beautifully ;)

nnotdead4824d ago

that's a short sided view. the Titian is about having the top performer, not the best bang for the buck. lower powered cards tend to lead price/performance ratio, so if that is what you're looking at, the Titian, 680, 7970, or other top of the line cards won't be much interest to you.

Npugz74824d ago

Wow you said it exactly how it is!!!

Knushwood Butt4823d ago

Anyone would think Nvidia are buuthurt

delboy4823d ago

Yeah Nvidia is buthurt, but AMD fights to stay alive.
Funny how Sony boys twists, suddenly it's not about power.
But in every other thread it is all about power and ram speed. Lol

MysticStrummer4823d ago

@delboy - It's the anti-Sony crowd that are twisting this. Nvidia may or may not be butthurt, but they certainly give the impression that they are. If Nvidia really walked away from next gen consoles voluntarily, why bother making statements about their lack of power? They went out of their way to downplay the power of devices they supposedly have no interest in. At the very least it's classless and unprofessional, but it also gives the appearance of being butthurt whether they are or not.

FlyingFoxy4823d ago

You're right there, they must know Titan aint selling because it's of of hose massively overpriced and marginally better cards. For regular high end cards there's normally little difference between AMD and Nvidia.

IAmLee4823d ago

LOL.
They've been going on for about a week now.
So butthurt from sony not using there equipment and what not.
Ah well. :')

nirwanda4823d ago

I think it's more like nvidia don't want the next direct X to go apu fully HSA because they don't make them or probably have any in development.

Psn8004823d ago

There just jealous are Nvidia .

hiredhelp4823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

I was long fan green team till AMD got better at there GPUs then I played with AMD cards since dx10 started.
My last nvidia card was 560 nvidia is getting power hungury and money hungury while they have new tegra chis yes mobiles is a massive market.
I feel there bitter about AMD supporting consoles and still producing low to high end desktop and server cards.
To compete with Nvidia and now with AMD dabbling back into the Physix with tress Fx being first what I call test waters I think Nvidia shud start shutting there mouths get off there high horse.
Like AMD You have desktop GPU you have mobile division with tegra now AMD has console market.
I'm running a AMD desktop card not going back

DeadlyFire4823d ago

NVIDIA is not only pissed about hardware. They probably proposed NVIDIA GRID to Sony before they bought Gaikai and Sony said no thanks.

troncoparati4823d ago

They are sore because they missed the opportunity to be in the next gen of consoles. If they had taken a hit in pricing on their chips they would had gain so much more in PR and advertising...greedy morons.

Cam9774823d ago

It's just jealousy. I bet Nvidia have lost millions due to missing out on helping with the PS4. That's their own fault. As said before, Nvdia IS on her period; wait, that's an understatement.

Irishguy954823d ago (Edited 4823d ago )

Again with the stupidity.

Nvidia haven't slammed anyone. It's titles and articles looking for hits. Fanboys are dumb enough to believe it.

Maybe Nvidia should lie about the Ps4's power when they get asked about it right? Getting asked and then Stating how powerful the Ps4 is...is not slamming it.

Ask anyone with a bit of knowledge of Hardware and they'll tell you the same thing Nvidia did. Are they trolls? Are they 'slamming it'? No. It's just stupid people thinking 'mid range'(low CPU/mid-high GPU) is somehow a bad thing

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LessThan2Tflops4825d ago

What's outlandish about what they said?

catf4824d ago

It's weighty for them to be outspoken in such a derogatory manner toward a recently announced machine.

It's not surprising, but would they do better being more reserved? It sort of sounds like;

'Yeah well, we didn't even want your stupid contract anyway, because it's stupid. We'll make our own console, with blackjack... and hookers..'

Not that global companies coming across as children is anything new either...

SilentNegotiator4823d ago

Well, LessThan2TFlops (you obvious troll, you), it's more the context. When they lost out on an important contract with a corporation that pushes several dozens of millions of pieces of hardware in a few years time with only small changes....they went to demeaning their competitor's work.

They didn't go on about how "low end" their own console work was. But now that they've been squeezed out of the market for demanding too much of the pie...

MASTER_RAIDEN4823d ago

"with blackjack....and hookers!!"

greatest futarama quote to date.

Fishy Fingers4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

This story has been blown waaaaaaay out of proportion.

adorie4824d ago

Much like most of everything else. These articles remind me of The Gods of Olympus. Stop caring or believing them and they will go away, unnoticed.

talisker4824d ago

People who had Shield in their hands say it's an ergonomic disaster.

kneon4824d ago

You don't need to have it your hands to see it's an ergonomic disaster.

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Veteran artist behind Mass Effect, Halo, and Overwatch 2 weighs in on Nvidia DLSS 5

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NVIDIA DLSS 4.5 Frame Gen 5x & 6x Come to RTX 50 Series GPUs + Dynamic Multi Frame Gen

The latest GeForce driver introduces DLSS 4.5 Multi Frame Generation 5x and 6x alongside Dynamic Multi Frame Generation to RTX 50-series GPUs. The former increases the number of interpolated frames to 4 and 5 (between every two rendered frames), further reducing reliance on the CPU.

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blacktiger65d ago

Big corp bowing down to another big corp is nothing more than helping each other. But try any games it doesn't work

Smellsforfree65d ago

I don't mind frame gen but only use it if I'm already >70fps without it. It is kinda nice but if I see any visual artifacts I will turn it off. Whenever I'm playing games on my 120Hz LG C3 I will almost never use it because frame rates >120fps look really bad. I think spatial super sampling is a far more interesting and beneficial tech than frame gen. Boosting 30fps to 60fps with framegen is just garbage.

SimpleDad65d ago

Tvs were doing this 15 years ago with their telenovela effect... Idk how anyone can play with this on.

There is definitely input lag there and artifacts.

CornholioX65d ago

It's commercial how they show it. Typical any company does that.

Goodguy0165d ago (Edited 65d ago )

Frame gen just has too much latency and visual glitches for me, don't think I can ever use it for most games. I'd compare with it on and off and it's a world of difference in the feel. I need the very least input lag in my gaming. Companies should rely on actual optimization. As for potato hardware, I suppose it could have it's use.

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Obelisk9276d ago

They already are. Indie studios are the only developers that constantly strive to publish innovative and experimental experiences. There has been little to no art in AAA gaming, with just a few exceptions.

Yi-Long76d ago

Indie-studios have been showcasing their creative superiority and bravery over AAA-studios/releases for a while now.

Personally. I have zero interest in AI slop in any of my entertainment, so regardless of what Sony, Ubisoft, MS, EA, etc believe the future is, I'm just not gonna touch any of that stuff.

blacktiger75d ago

Everything you said but for me MS is always the problem.

isarai_lee76d ago

One more thing in a long list of things that already give indie Games an advantage

Miacosa75d ago (Edited 75d ago )

In reality a dev having a simplistic tech statck does not really impact the end user experience. If the game is good and worth playing is what matters. In other words some cooks make care if 2 or 3 eggs were used to make a cake but the person eating it doesn't. And in the case of DLSS 5 the chef is soley responsible for the recipe and how its mixed together.