so, theyve just made a product thats like blu-ray. LOL. no chance in hell this will ever make it. Now that all of the hardware companies are focused on blu-ray, prices on the players are going to drop fast. I expect seeing 100$ blu-ray players after Christmas with all of the competition. There are already cheap blu-ray drives for PCs. http://www.newegg.com/Produ...
139 for a BR player is not bad...

The whole reason Blu-Ray won was the PS3, now unless every digital TV has been somehow subject to the same trojanery that went on with the PS3 it's not a contender.

HD-DVD also tried to undercut the Blu-Ray.

if they play their cards right (especially the ones called "affordability" and "value") these guys could find a market in some LEDC like India

problem is- that's what Toshiba are trying to do with HD-DVD, so VMD thing will have near-impenetrable competition with a very well established company

And another "HD" format stillbirth ... If Toshiba with all the DVD license cash couldn't bribe up the market enough to succeed, how does this company plan to do it?

If i have to get bored by weekly "BluRay vs. HD-VDM" news yet again i am gonna SCREAM >_<

We dont need another format war

its to late for another contender.

maybe in 10 years when 70 inch screens are the norm we can have another format war but for now BR is all you need.

I was wondering when the Ralph Nader of this format war would emerge.

We definetly dont need another format war..and by the looks of it this format will not take off it the major markets...maybe as someone said in India..possibly china..

Blu Ray is the victor and thats how it will stay...and these players are f--ing Ugly/Huge

oh man......... hear we go agian we just got home from the HD DVD and BL war .... now this thing >_>

soft...

I will support Blu Ray and it will be supported PS4 and Xbox 720.(It will actually br mainstream by then)

Either way all BOTS look like a damn joke. HHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Sure creating one format is one thing, however getting studio support is another. Every single studio now supports blu-ray, it won't ever be the same for this

cause its going to be an uphill struggle to get that adopted by the people who count.

Sure, the players and the manufacturing facilities would be very easy to make, but these discs would be horribly expensive to manufacture since the amount of layers they have is insane which makes them become coasters a lot easier. They can hold up to 100 GB on 20 layers, i.e. 20 DVD layers. The same technology can even be applied to Blu-ray. It would be pointless, and the maximum burning speed would be too slow compared to the maximum Blu-ray burning speed, given that it's just a rehash of DVD.

Even if the speed of burning goes up a lot, the VMD burners would be too loud. Hell, the amount of energy required for that would be huge and laptops wouldn't stand it; the energy bill would be significantly higher than with a Blu-ray drive that burns faster per unit of speed.

Realistically that speed will never be achieved, and it's in most manufacturers interests to advance Blu-ray burners speeds. So, if VMD actually won, imagine having a coaster after 60 hours of burn time for a 100 GB VMD?

The best thing they could make would be joining forces with the Blu-ray camp in order to apply their patents to it instead of trying to enter the fray against a format with more backing, hardware manufacturer-wise and studio-wise.

that was one of the best posts i've read in a long time. i'd give you 7 bubbles if i could.

ralph nadar

gold man.

long live solid snake

I love it when corporate greed benefits the consumer. Anything vs. Anything = cheaper prices baby! ROCK ON! I'm probably the only one who wanted the hd dvd vs blu-ray war to last just a bit longer. $99 dollar players were awesome...

I think it's great that more and more disc technologies are being researched.... you see... soon blu-ray will become cheaper to make and hardware makers will start making blu-ray burners afortable and that's where piracy will take over...

I think on the next gen microsoft should use one of these new formats (asuming that they can lower the cost) and though not used for movies it can give them an extra layer of security against piracy for the simply fact that people can't just buy a burner and crack the encryption.... let's not forget that console piracy started after game companies started using music and movie format discs to distribute games....

Now, I am not saying that microsof shouldn't add blu-ray playback on their next consoles... but that these non-blu-ray formats can be use as a nother layer of protection against piracy for next non Sony consoles... ohh yeah... and no royalties...

"Solomon dissents. "Our idea is to create a player that people can afford. There is room for the two of us."

Unfortunately, those consumers who bought HD DVD players that are now orphaned may not agree."

The HD-dvd player consumers, if they do not agree, are some smart mother .....
I think the world knows better. Not only that but wtf are they thinking trying to compete based on a price point at this stage in the game anyway ? I mean blu-ray having just defeated another big format, particularly devastating peoples lives and big companies money for a greater good, "Blu-ray" is set in stone so to speak.
no "/sarcasm"

slow people must know also.

that HD-DVD format was set out to have the space that this "new media" wants to have. If they think they can have that space when HD-DVD could not , then more power to em becuasee they got a long way to go down a bumpy road and I feel bad for the idiot that rides with them.
/sarcasm

http://www.n4g.com/News-472...
VMD is not new. This post was from 261 days ago. How long before we all accept Blu-ray as the new format of DVD? Or will someone always pose another contender until Blu-ray is ousted?

i smell a sinking ship.

They're stupid hahaha sony will devour them. If toshiba couldn't succeed against sony what do they hope to achieve?

They have money to throw away it seems, just tell me where to pick them.

i don't think it'll fly, primarily because retailers and movie studios were getting tired of developing and marketing 2 formats...this format has come late to the party and basically everyone (studios and retailers) have chosen to go blu.

The gauntlets were thrown, and sony used nukes and boom ! ,but, Ive known about this format a while. The last time, they did say with a software update or some minor modification,dvd players could read it? Apparently,with a firmware update,the 360 could? And that would be a huge thing for MSFT to get.well,that is if its possible

If I'm not mistaken, this HD-VMD has been out for a while, so I don't see TOO much concern.

I don't know about Europe, Bollywood and Asian market releases, but as far as the Hollywood releases in other countries, will they all be bootleg??? I don't see too many Hollywood studios supporting another competing format any time soon.

sorry

unless they think they can reach 10million home, and growing my i add, in one year.

HD-DVD didnt fail because its format sucks it lost because the sales of bluerays where larger! The install base grew and is growing at a fast rate for blueray players. Its about the name Sony and till someone makes a name for well built eltronics like Sony has made for themselfs over many years any upstart faces a uphill battle. My parents think Sony makes good stuff. The only ppl that dont think Sony makes solid consumer eltronics are the ppl you find on forums that just happen to be called fanboys.

BR will be around until DD arrives in about 3-4 decades.
But I suppose HD-DVD fanboys will now jump onto this option instead.
God, they're pathetic.

Are they serious? This is going to be like watching a mosquito take on a speeding semi-truck.

Yeah, I hear this format is going to be used in the NuoN.

All the movie studios like this idea

is already doomed!

Who do they think they are. They're gonna lose money big time.

"We can sell players for $90 and make a profit," then why selling at 199$....

it would be difficult for them....they are up against a big corporate with all the support in the industry and they are already late to the table.....if they could just remember hd-dvd was also much cheeper than blue-ray.......

Lot of new tech coming from the UK lately, good for them.

Tech moves to fast to have more than a 3-5 year hold on the market, which is why Blu and HD DVD failed before they launched.

Have you been freezing you @SS in the moon? Living under a rock, maybe?

VMD is old news... Sorry to broke your heart, but this one already failed, if you can't get Hollywood content, why people will even bother? (and not, I'm not american and don't think world of movies starts and ends on Hollywood, but let's be real, they are the money making of the industry, they drive it).

Key factor is studio support.

"it thinks it can find a market among consumers with less disposable income, particularly outside the United States."

First of all Europe isn't poor! We have money to buy bluray!
Everyone in the US isn't rich! They don't even know what they are talking about... Who are they aiming at? Asia only? Please...

Is Possible to compete with bluray technology,since VC-1 compression at low bit rates looks better than anything else(True)...But to compete business wise,Better have a budget and assets as large as Sony! lol

Good God!!!

If no Hollywood studios support it it is destined to fail. Period!

Now if they market it as a computer storage medium only then maybe, and maybe if it has similar capacity as blue ray then we can burn blue rays on these new disks.

But thats alot of maybies...

Too late to bring new format? That's like saying PS1 is enough, why ps2 and ps3?

Seems like people really do hate technology pushing forwards like a train without breaks.

Read what I posted on the "Burned By HD-DVD" article and you all will trip out

The benefit of the format war for us was to push down prices sooner rather than later for the victor, and now that Blu-ray has won and isn't ridiculously expensive, we don't need another format war.

which movies studio would be coming out movies for them ...thats right nobody ...this is stupid nobody wants a format war again..when one buys a blu ray player , he will buy a blu ray disk.....

Why is anybody reading this?

People, it's still just a piece of plastic. It has no more reliability than any other piece of plastic. And it costs much more as a videogame. All it takes are a few scratches to ruin the experience, and your $60 are already in their pockets.

It's not going to do much. Hate to say it, but that's how it is right now. Surprised that they didn't talk about storage capacity for HD-VMD (thought it said UMD for a second there) nor the video resolution.

no format will be, or is better then BLU RAY. case closed.PLAY and WATCH B3YOND!!

bluray is doomed

Well if its cheaper and the same quality id definately go for it.

It will be fun to watch this format fail. I'd say it would be a fall from grace, but I doubt this is ever going to see the light of grace. More like, a further fall than failure - bankruptcy.

If HD-DVD, backed by a group of BIG players in business, which had hundreds of millions to throw around to garner attention for the format and market it like no other, couldn't break Blu-Ray... honestly, what makes you think HD-VMD has any chance... like, at all?

Warner dropped HD-DVD for Blu-Ray exclusivity. It's sole reason to end the format war and start making a steady stream of cash, without competing with itself, much like every other company, on opposite sides of the playing field were.

I don't see this as the viable mainstream HD-multimedia format, regardless.

I'm pretty Pro Blu-ray, but if this format turns out to be as high quality, has as much or more disc space, and is cheaper? Why the hell not, let the consumer tests begin.