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Braid Dev: New Xbox 'Not Strictly About Games'

Speaking with Edge Online, Blow notes that the new, still-unknown Xbox 360 successor is “not strictly about games,” leading him to PlayStation 4 as a result.

xHeavYx4814d ago

Has it ever been? The article picture should be the one below

Gazondaily4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Yes. Yes it has. *the old Xbox and 360 that is*

darthv724814d ago

have not been dedicated for many years now. To be competitive in the industry they had to evolve into more than just games.

PS2 is a good example of bridging a gap between the home entertainment market and the video game market. It transitioned to the ps3 with streaming media and music access and social interaction as well as internet access.

Game systems still play games but they (MS, Sony, Nintendo) are wanting them to do more than that now in light of all the smart devices we have in our lives. so what if your phone can surf the web or your TV can stream netflix. These game systems want to take part in those features as well.

They have to be able to do more to remain relevant in a world that is growing more and more dependent on conveniences.

redDevil874814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

The Xbox consoles were just a Trojan Horse for MS' to get into the living room and try to to dominate it.

DonteDemonSlayer4814d ago

"Not strictly about games"
And what console other than the Wii & DS in the last 7 years has just been strictly games? Especially apparent in the past 2 years SONY and MICROSOFT are hoping to capitalize on the booming "Social" networking type approach. Which I'm afraid may just be another passing fad and could hurt them later on, though with the internet being more commonplace than ever that seems unlikely. I'm sure the Nextbox will do all the social abilities that the PS4 is doing, forgetting that consoles are about the games, not having watered down PC abilities.

ABizzel14814d ago

I think a lot of you are taking what he said too literal. No console is a "dedicated game systems" anymore because they all do other things like Netflix, web browsers, etc...

However, you can clearly tell with Sony and Nintendo that gaming is first and foremost.

I think what he was saying is that with Microsoft it's the exact opposite. It's services first, and then gaming, and as a games console that shouldn't be the case.

But it was expected and it was even OUTLINED in MS 3 step plan to infiltrating the living room space.

1. Original Xbox was to make a name for them
2. Xbox 360 was to gain more market share
3. New Xbox was aimed to take over the living room.

So it's not surprising to me at all, but I guess people just didn't want to see what was in front of them. With gamers being the reason they've had any success with the Xbox means that the Nextbox will still have a focus on gaming, and I'm sure it'll be a solid console, but MS was never in it for gaming, they're here for profit. MS doesn't care about maxing their system or creating new IP's they care about having big selling franchises and multiplatforms, and most of their audience is fine with that, so it's really no loss to them.

I don't think the Nextbox will gain more market share than the Xbox 360 has, but I don't think it's going to be a significant drop even if gaming is a secondary focus. They'll still have the Halos, COD's, Forza's, and exclusive DLC to keep their system up to standards.

But I think more 3rd party developers are going to be willing to do more PS4 exclusives for the simple fact that Sony BUSINESS actually cares about making good games.

MAJ0R4814d ago

How is this news? Who actually thought there would be a game systems released modern day that is solely dedicated for playing games anyways?

Just use the Playstation Vita as an example for why dedicated gaming systems don't do very well i.e. competing systems that can do gaming plus a lot more will beat a dedicated gaming platform.

Gildarts4814d ago

No nextgen console will be strictly. Games. Maybe the Xbox will be a little less about games and I'm ok with that as long as I'm getting my exclusives and such.

Gazondaily4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

@Abizzel1

Do note that Sony's intentions were to become a multimedia device as well and in quite strong terms if Kutaragi's sentiments are anything to go by, hence the 'it only does everything' moniker.

So we shouldn't be naive to think that Sony has always had gamers' sentiments at heart. Ultimately, it is after the $ just like the other two. Now however, it is evident that Sony have realised that their core gaming fan base is critical to their success.

SilentNegotiator4814d ago

"Not mainly games" would have been more specific and correct.

soxfan20054814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

MS should come up with a slogan to describe what the new Xbox will be about. Here's one I thought of:

"It only does everything".

That slogan perfectly describes a console that's not strictly about games. I'm sure the masses here wouldn't have a problem with a slogan which accentuates a console's diversity, and it's numerous features other than gaming.

knowyourstuff4814d ago

Yeah in the beginning the 360 was a games machine, for hardcore gamers, now Microsoft wants to expand and grow by trying to steal from Nintendo's pie, and if they dilute their resources they may become a decent company for hardcore gamers, and a decent company for casuals, where excellent experiences can be had in both markets by Sony and Nintendo respectfully. This has already been seen with the 360 as gamers have complained about. It's more than obvious this is Microsoft's strategy going forward to get the most money and market share.

rainslacker4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

@the "it only does everything" replies

Yes, when Sony used that moniker, the PS2 was a system that did pretty much everything available at the time. It was a huge selling point for them, because back then integrated devices that could do everything were non-existent.

However, note their new slogan.

Play Beyond

Note the word "Play". As gamers, that should be the most important thing. The rest is so common now it's hardly worth focusing on because it's become expected. On top of that, integrated devices have become so ubiquitous the console is not the best place to get an all-in-one device anymore if you just don't care about games. Cheaper, and much better alternatives exist, hell half the TV's sold today even offer it built in. MS is behind the curve on this IMO, and they are approaching it in the wrong way. Focus on the games, and then build up the value through the services offered. They are doing it the opposite way, and as gamers, it should be concerning.

Cupid_Viper_34814d ago

@Soxfan

I love that Slogan dude, you know why?

Because every time I see that Slogan it is normally preceded by a commercial highlighting yet another PS3 Exclusive. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

So if MS adopts it that would be great, but it would only ever be used about 4 times.

GamingWorldPeace4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Having went through 2 pages worth of comments, I think it is pretty safe to say that N4G is pretty lopsided in terms of fans diversity. Y'all, look here, I am a diehard PS3 gamer and the only series I really like on Xbox 360 is the Gears of War, mainly due to my man, Cole Train! But aren't we getting ahead of ourselfs based on any little comments, from small developers to Executives, and throwing fire to a flame that is not even lit yet. Both companies will have similar strategies going into next generation because it is a copy cat industry just like the Move and Kinect following the success of the Wii. I really don't see anything wrong with waht Microsoft is doing, truthfully. You gotta make money somehow. You gotta be clueless if you think Microsoft won't bring any core games to the table for next generation. Bye Yah!

andrewsqual4814d ago

@DonteDemonSlayer When you put more money into getting ads to your users than money into ACTUAL GAME CREATING STUDIOS, that my good sir, is the big differance. Don't try and say that the 360 OR Xbox Next is the same as the PS2 or Gamecube lol.

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amiga-man4814d ago

It seems M$ are doing all they can to lose any creditability they had left in gaming.

adorie4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

From all the rumors including Blow, it seems Microsoft is going to be pushing hard for their console to be a jack of all trades.

That's fine, but it should be a master of "games"
and hopefully not a master of "none"

theWB274814d ago

How exactly are they losing credibility when the 360 has been doing this for years and still selling STRONG?

The PS4 CLEARLY, as a console, isnt just about games. They clearly focused a ton on the social aspect of things.

The next Xbox will still play games, I bet at a very high quality, but like this gen exclusives MIGHT not beat Sony's. Which clearly didnt hurt them this gen.

I can't understand this "credibility" you speak of when the 360 is still selling strong and they have as many devoted followers as Nintendo and Sony.

RememberThe3574814d ago

I left a comment a few weeks ago after the Sony conference about this too. It's becoming clear the MS wants the XBox to be a "consumer electronic device" as opposed to "a game console." The more I hear about what MS is doing the more it looks like the PS4 will be my console this fall.

amiga-man4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

It amazes me how people will defend the crap M$ is bringing into gaming,

these people defend it instead of telling M$ to do one when they charge you to use your internet, they force you to buy overpriced hardware, hard drives etc, they churn out the same few games and leave 3rd parties to pick up the slack.

the rumours for their new machine are not good and if the always online and not being able to trade games are true people will still defend them, wake up people and demand better.

Evil-snuggles4814d ago

I owned the first Xbox and PS2 I loved the first Xbox more than my PS2 when the Xbox 360 was release I purchased it when it was first release I was not impressed and worse Xbox live 2 XBOX red ringed me when the PS3 was released I wait for the first price cut it was awesome lots of great game I love Sony first party games and PSN is free PS+ is great they give you free games avatars and Game discount Xbox live you pay $60 a year to play the $68 games just paid for online and watch Netflix and browse the Internet Xbox live is what Xbox 720 is about Microscam want to to be the cable and TV company not a game company there in composition with Netflix not Sony PlayStation M$ had learned that they make more money of Xbox live that taking risks on new game IPS just pay for exclusive dlc push them on your customers and watch the dollars rolled in M$ are money grubbing whores

Ritsujun4814d ago

The WarnerBros27's mad.

Gamer19824814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

I think the main problem is will people pay monthly for an entertainment device rather than a gaming console.. I think that's gonna be a lot harder sell. Especially in the modern day of SMART tvs and mobile phones which all play netflix etc.. with no fees.

adorie4813d ago

@TheWB27

The PS4 is a gaming device first, a social media gateway, a Blu-Ray player and streaming device.

The PS4 is for "Gamers" and "Developers" All the social aspects shown for PS4 were all gaming driven. You can shout from the rooftops about it's social aspects, but that doesn't change what Sony has told us The PS4 is meant for... games. Everything else is a plus, a PlayStation+(LOL!)

My comment about Microsoft is merely a concern, because I'd like them to keep Sony humbled and focused on what counts, Us and Games.

CoolBeansRus4813d ago

Amiga-Man. How are they doing that when they haven't revealed one thing about the system. All your opinions are based of rumors.

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MithrilBlades4814d ago

Could have sworn sony was doing similar with DVD and blu-ray. I can assure you like the past decade, every console will be a Trojan Horse for something from now on....whether it's a tablet controller, streaming games, motion control or social media.

Mounce4814d ago

@-Mezzo-

Braid doesn't consider Kinect a part of 'Games', so they're just making it clear that Xbox will be all about Kinect more than it is for gamers.

Clearly!

AngelicIceDiamond4814d ago

Isn't that a good thing? That the Xbox core functionality is gaming but can do other things as well?

MysticStrummer4814d ago

It wasn't a good thing when PS3 did it, but somehow I'm sure now it will be hailed as genius now that MS "invented" the idea.

slimpickens4814d ago

Sounds like a sob story Mystic strummer!

WarThunder4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

I said this many times before!

Next xbox goona focus on Kinect 2.0 and SmartGlass!!!

And if MS thinks its gonna sell. Then good for them/

Remember this: Idiots are not ones who charge, idiots are the ones who pay.

And thats good for MS because there are a lot of idiots on this planet. look at apple for example.

Gamer19824814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Well said! It will sell and your quotes are bang on especially about apple they just give you a minor upgrade each year and charge you $700 for this minor upgrade. No new OS or anything... People are like sheep and MS wants to herd these sheep into their pen.

If the nextbox only has Halo, forza and gears next gen with some exclusive DLC gamers won't be interested and the home entertainment crowd mostly get them features through SMART tvs and a device you can now pick up for £40 with android installed on it. NO monthly fee. Only hardcore xbox gamers will pick it up and it will have the same issues as the WiiU has right now.

sGIBMBR4813d ago

Lol, the only people who like Xbox are sheep? GTFO!

I like Xbox, problem?

I agree that MS have dropped the ball recently with the lack of hardcore gamer focused games, but to say only sheep like Xbox is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard... But not surprised in the least!

Every gaming platform out there has it's positives and negatives. Branding ones whole fan base as sheep's is far too extreme and certainly isn't the case!

otherZinc4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Huh? What? Johnathan Blow? Who are you?

Do you think you're John Carmack, Gabe, Jason Jones, Cliff B, Polyphony, Itagaki, Shirgu, Kojima? What you say means absolutely Nothing!

Johnathan, make a friggin retail game, sell it for $60, sell millions, then talk Sh**! Until then; STFU!

We'll see what "The Witness" does at $60. Then come in here & run your mouth.

All Consoles Are Gunning For Our Living Room!
Make your game. By the way, I thought your game Braid sucked, try again!

MYSTERIO3604813d ago

I don't want a next gen entertainment hub i've already got a Sky box for that.

kenshiro1004813d ago

Microsoft keeps shooting themselves in the foot these days.

ICECREAM4813d ago

But??????????????No!!!!!!!!!!! !!

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Gazondaily4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Well this is quite an alarming insight into the next-gen console. Whilst I know that Jonathan Blow has had his fair share of 'beef' with MS in the past (and present), I don't think his view should be scoffed at.

A gaming console that is 'not strictly about games' is not a gaming console at all in my opinion. It will be a tremendous detriment to the industry if MS relinquishes its ties with the core gamers that helped propel it into this industry's upper echelons only for it to infiltrate the living rooms for what they've always struggled to do.

I don't want a half-arsed gaming machine console that does other things. I want a gaming console that puts gaming at the heart of it's focus. Luckily, for us, Sony had a kick up the backside this generation and have their focus more or less squarely on the gamer. If worse comes to worse, we have the PlayStation 4- lets hope it doesn't rest on its laurels because it doesn't have as tight a competitor.

RememberThe3574814d ago

I completely agree. A game console can do a bunch of things, thats cool. But the same way the lighter in my car doesn't make my car a lighter, MS needs to understand that if they lose sight of what the device is supposed to be about they'll lose to gamers that got them here.

xxLuckyStrike4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Agreed. They just rode the Kinnect wave at the end here. Now they'll refocus on the core and all social and interactive aspects. They want to corner the whole market. Too ambitious maybe. But they'll give the core what we want and early on. MS won't burn down the bridge that got them into town. They'll repave it. Don't listen to the daily Sony fanboy fodder at N4G it's a 4-1 ratio

xxLuckyStrike4814d ago

MS laughing at all of the fanboys turned analysts on the way to the bank while readying the new cash cow. You cries were unheard by the masses when you stomped up and down over Kinnect an pitched rrod fiasco and doom. All on a console with no exclusives. No one outside N4G hears you or cares except Sony Fanboys!!!

Ju4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Speaking of Kinect. Can anyone please tell me who is making money off of Kinect games? 3rd party sure aren't it.

xxLuckyStrike4814d ago

@ju
It's Microsofts baby so... I imagine MS. I think third party takes care of itself as they always sell the most units on any platform

rainslacker4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Good for them laughing...are you laughing? I'm going to assume that you are a MS fan based on your tone, but your brand loyalty is misplaced.

As a gamer, I see no reason to laugh over MS current marketing focus, or the current trend in reports or quotes coming out of Redmond.

I'm happy that you can laugh and claim victory over fan boys everywhere...not really sure where that gets you though. If you feel good about the current situation, that's fine. MS I'm sure will be laughing at you next gen as well because they know they have someone who can't look at things objectively and will buy up whatever crap they push onto the consumers in the guise of a game machine. A game machine which so far seems like it won't bring much to the realm of gaming.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not waiting with baited breath.

Ju4814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

Only Kinect game I can find anywhere in the charts which barely cracks the top 20 is Kinect Sports (in the US, global far below) and then long nothing. It sure ain't 3rd party making money off of Kinect (and I actually know). It's a black whole for MS, too. All it does is trying to sell the console to "others". But what's the point, really? They sank $500M already and keep going. Not my money, I'm just saying...but really, nobody cares about Kinect.

MysticStrummer4814d ago

Laughing all the way to last place. Nice work. At least you're pleased. I'm sure that's all MS cares about.

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Axe994814d ago

@ Septic - aye, that's the main danger here - MS effectively replaced Ninty as the main competition in the core gaming arena (sorry Ninty fans, but when it comes to publishing third party games, last gen there were, for the most part, only two games in town in the console game), and MS were always in the game for loungeroom domination (and said as much early on, to their investors) rather than gaming.

Fortunately, they were competitive enough to stop Sony getting carried away. Risk is if they back off and focus on being a jack-of-all trades, then they'll stop putting the competitive pressure on gaming. If this does come to pass, then hopefully Steam and mobile/tablet, with Ninty in the background, will be enough to keep Sony from slacking off.

It's a huge risk for MS, as even with a year's headstart and a pretty clunky start from the PS3, Sony have come back to be the strongest gaming device through the life of the generation (weak start, strong finish - note, the 360 is still an _awesome_ piece of kit, but you just get a better range of games on Playstation, and often a deeper range of games as well). If they start weaker, they could lose market share, and pretty much fade out outside of the US (only in console gaming, of course).

I doubt they'll do this though - but this article from Blow about MS is far from the only 'negative' vibe from devs and publishers, and they seem to be lining up to get behind the PS4.

Anyways, it's all rumour and speculation - we'll see what's going to happen in a month or two either way. We just have to hope that the rumour of it being a gaming console second are wrong, or that MS change direction after listening to the fan response.

Relientk774814d ago (Edited 4814d ago )

This is where I think Microsoft is doing it wrong. I think a video game consoles main focus should be strictly about games. Everything else on it: social media, sharing, Netflix, Internet browers etc, those are all bonuses to me. I am a gamer, I want games.

MikeMyers4814d ago

The problem is Microsoft is known first for Windows and rumor has it Windows 8 will tie it all together.

This is why sometimes you have to hand it to Nintendo, they are primarily a game company, that's all they do. Sony has various divisions so they will want to create new formats and delve into things like 3D to help sell TVs. Sony still does a great job at separating divisions and really focus on games.

I'm glad more and more developers are speaking out. No longer will Microsoft be able to coast off of the competitions mistakes. Xbox Live used to be their trump card but even that is starting to be questioned as others have improved their online services dramatically.

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle15d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7714d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300020d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7220d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit19d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania20d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit19d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0719d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr20d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box20d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr19d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9520d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7220d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--20d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7219d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket20d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm19d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde19d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_20d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted20d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit19d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9219d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT20d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers20d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14920d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0719d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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