I have seen rumors detailing the XBox 720 having 16 GB of RAM and double GTX 680 cards, not so bad tbh

How about we just wait until the thing is revealed, alright folks?

Keep in mind that this article doesn't take into account the amount of memory reserved for the OS. Rumors point to Durango using 3Gb for OS, and PS4 using 512mb.

Like they said in the article, PS4's memory is unified and a lot more straight-forward. It easily wins as it doesn't resort to convoluted methods to make up for its weaknesses.

You never know, some people believe Microsoft can change it to GDDR5 at the LAST MINUTE because they are MICROSOFT.

Kids I tell yah'

Well we only have rumors to go on for the next Xbox, so you cant really say. I'd imagine they are pretty close and the third party games should be equal on both.

We know Microsoft and Sony want background downloads and two things going on at once, it wouldn't surprise me to see 4 gigs for OS and 4 gigs for gaming.

My only wish is that Nintendo would have slapped a few more gigs into the Wii U.

Man what really disturbs me is that these consoles aren't even going to be released till the end of this year and we're already getting tons of garbage websites with their juvenile journalism. UGH!

LoL "Just like Chewbacca, that does not make sense"

Windows8 is rumoured to drink near 3Gb of it aswell

The PS4 can go as much as it wants at the same time with 8gb of random access memory.

Sure, Sony's Ps4 RAM is faster than Microsoft's 720 RAM, but what everyone fail to realize is that Microsoft has one advantage over Sony Is software.

DirectX works with many advance tools that are readily compatible with out the gate.

For example, TressFX Hair works with DX11 although some are speculating the AMD's PhysX engine will have a hair component implemented. We will have to wait and see.

One more thing, the more efficient the tool are, the less bandwidth/speed it demands from the RAM.

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Its seems from all the research I've been doing that the xbox 720 would need 16gb of DDR3 ram to match Sonys 8 DDR5. So I'm atleast hoping that's the case. Either way both for me day1!

I could see Durango going to GDDR5 or splint in order to regulate the latency issues of GDDR5. I highly doubt they will do 16 GB of Ram though...anything more than 8 GB will be over kill and waste of resources. They would be better off adding more clocks for the cpu or gpu at that rate...or add more SP.

In the end it all comes down to programmer optimizations, much like we've seen with the PS3 and first party games...the difference now is that pS4 will feature more robust and dev friendly hardware (actually A LOT more dev friendly)

In this case, microsoft is making things too complicated for devs, giving them so many choices to allocate things in ram, instead of leaving a general norm.

Let's hope they retweak the hardware so we can see an even split between the 2 consoles. It would be nice to see the only difference being the interface between the 2:)

I'm little worried about PC gaming at this point, because the old consoles had more than 7 times less ram, and for crap ports of console games meant us PC gamers using up way more than ram than we need too...Hopefully with the consoles so close to PC hardware, we will see proper easy optimizations...so we don't have to have 32 GB of ram to run crappy ports:)

i think ms has some really big surprises for gamers not only a new more powerful console but a revolution like kinnect

Does it matter, what the specs our? It doesn't do Microsoft any good if they do have more RAM than Sony or a better graphics chips, if they don't have any developers making use of it. Sony has pushed the limits of the PS2 a few times over; when most developers said nothing can else be done with the system.

Plus if Microsoft waited for Sony to reveal their specs, so they can whip up a super console by E3. I just foresee a RROD or poor manufacturing, just to get their system out in time to rival with Sony!

The type of RAM means diddly squat. Neither will use it all for games anyway.

The 8gb of ram is a nice bonus. Sony brings the amazing exclusive games ALONG with the latest tech.

SONY has put MS in a tough spot.
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Option 1) Release Durango in 2013 with weaker hardware.
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Option 2) Redesign Durango with a more powerful GPU & GDDR5 RAM, causing the system to be delayed to 2014. Thus giving the PS4 a 6-8 month headstart.
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I think MS will just trudge forward with the weaker hardware, and spend more on advertising, and go for a lower launch price.

I'll compare specs when msft actually reveals thiers. Until then I refuse to take these discussions seriously.

once people understand rumored means nothing they will see this article means nothing, lol. Slow news day so why not speculate on speculation! The only ones how can enjoy this are they fangirls :P

There was an article earlier talking about the specs ps4 has that PCs do not. I have an x86 mother board, and DDR5 ram in my GTX 690. Things that article said PC gamers do not have.

I am sure this will be fixed. Adding ram is never an difficult issue. But its going to be a monster generation!
Pc games do not even use that much in games unless your using High res with everything on.
I Think 4gb will be used in most games with the rest being used for cool stuff like watching a friends game while your in the middle of yours etc.
I have never seen a game eat more than 2.5gb on my rig (i have 16gb)
And thats with the game maxed out.
You can never have too much ram!

People act like there'll be a huger disparity between the PS4 and 361 when that probably won't be the case.

so what x720 specs are still on par with ps4 and their both putting money into motion gaming dont matter hard core games well be even better with the new power of move and kinect wait and see. already the next splinter cell with old kinect is making dev and fans shit their pants from how cool it is to order airstrikes with your voice and not a buttion while u still use your normal controller

u know whats funny the ps4 and the supposed x720 specs are closer together then the x360 and ps3 and look how close all games look in graphics lol

To anybody who knows... If switching to DDR5 this late in the development cycle is to difficult, what's stopping MS from increasing the amount of DDR3 RAM to even out the playing field? And I'm not saying doubling the amount as was suggested earlier, I mean like increasing it to 10GB or 12GB... You get my drift. Would the cost be to high? Would the amount of RAM sockets on the MB take to much room? Please educate me. :)

fer chrissakes... the systems aren't even out yet, and you've already started with these articles?

if ur getting a ps4 u should go sign up for shitty crappy ustream so u see its far from as good as youtube lol

RAM is a less important component when it comes to the GPU and I'm really more interested in what GPU will the next Xbox have. If Microsoft opted for 16gb of DDR3 but decided to pair it with a really high-end GPU like the HD7950, then it would defiantly outweigh the 70 mb/s difference in memory speed.

they could go with 4gb ddr3, a way better/faster quad core cpu and a way better gpu and it would face stomp the ps4

will they, hell no, they'll just match the ram (which matters least out of gpu,cpu, ram) and put a mediocre cpu and gpu like ps4

The difference will be minimal. Only 1st party exclusive will see a slight advantage. As we all know Microsoft doesn't have any except Halo,Gears and Forza.

I think Microsoft will match the memory. In order for them to outperform the ps4, they would need to put a higher end gpu. The ps4 can only do 30fps at 1080p, so MS still has time to enhance the cpu and gpu to achieve 60fps.

I don't think MS will have THE games, with the exception of halo,forza and gears and maybe Alan wake... but that's not to say they can't match or surpass the ps4 in performance...there's still quite a bit of time.

so whos will to bet how much off the ps4 spec is gona change by the time it comes out? like the ps3 did.

I shall wait and see what the next xbox has inside before judging how it is, but if the rumours are anything to go by ps4 is pretty far ahead.

I can't wait to see all that extra power Microsoft is going to put into the next Xbox and see next Gen games such as Halo! Gears of War and Forza.... Microsoft get some new IPs already... or at least tell Rare to bring back Killer Instinct

They both have the same amount of ram. The 360 & ps3 also has the same amount, but shared different architectures. This right here is the same difference!

They'll both each have strengths & weaknesses, what they'll be... remains to seen.

There was little if any discernible difference between the PS2 and the Xbox unless it was a case of poorly done porting.

There was little if any discernible difference between the PS3 and the 360 unless it was a case of poorly done porting.

Go ahead, guess what the discernible difference between the PS4 and 720 will be... Just guess.

Welcome to the Ram wars...

MS may be rethinking their strategy now that sony gave em a peak of their cards.. Maybe not either & they go in all the way with this whole illumiroom kinect thing.. An entertainment hub for multiple media options with unique functionality is prolly the best thing for them to do..

Going toe to toe with sony for core gamers might be an uphill battle for them.. Games 1st, media 2nd is what i want.. MS seems to be doing the opposite which will attract customers but a different type.. People who only play shooters & or casuals, will prolly go with MS nx gen due to the simplicity more media app focused style.. Hardcore gamers that buy systems to play the latest n greatest multi genre games will go Sony & see the media functionality as an added bonus..

90% of the time i turn on my systems are to PLAY GAMES.. Others may watch hulu or netflix 90% of the time they turn theirs on..

What if M$ included 10GB of DDR3 RAM?
How would THAT compare to Sony's 8GB of DDR5?

so let me get this straight..you guys say ps4 will mop the xbox infinity memmory? ps4 mem runs at 176 gb xbx runs at 170 gbs , thats not a big of a deal.. so let ask the experts ...if MS decides to go with ddr5 + 32 esram would that mean they are gonna mop the floor on the ps4 memmory?

Console warfare for dayz :P

I think the key is that no one really knows. There have been many leaks of many different things and I'm not sure the developers even know what the final builds will be. They know the basics so that they can program for the consoles. But not the final strength of the consoles.

Everyone is making paper estimates. A lot of people have made paper estimates in the past. Sony did when they thought the Cell could act as the GPU and CPU. Then they made the chip and added the RSX. Intel did when they designed Larrabee. Then they made the chip and dropped the entire thing. AMD did when they designed their first APUs. Then they launched them and they didn't meet expectations.

So let's wait to see which console will be more powerful. Not even the experts seem to be able to read them properly on paper.

Microsoft is just like a dead rat in a bowl of rice. It ruins the gaming industry. They should release a more powerful gaming machine instead of a stupid kinect-focused machine. Xbox next is about half the power of PS4, it lowers the lowest denominator of gaming development.

I'll care when th legit console gets released. And even then I won't care that much. Sony promised to end load times..I don't think it gets much better than that.

Even if MS could change DDR3 to GDR5 to react to the PS4, I'm not sure they would make the change this close to release. It totally completely changes the cost to put out the unit, and also changes the contracts they probably have in place to change to this kind of way more specialized RAM. I'd love to be wrong on this, but If MS has any plans of releasing this at the end of the year, they will probably will have to have this plan in place months before the PS4 announcement.

sony fans are getting ahead of themselves with excitement and could well be left feeling like wiiu fans if microsoft come with something even more powerful than ps4

So a console whose full details are not official vs. a console none of us are sure even exists? Seems legit

Even with 8gb of ddr3 ram Microsoft will deliver all that ram is more than enough. Games don't use that much. Say whatever you say i don't bother anymore.

Man! Sony really got into the Xboys heads on the 20th. The panic is thick here. It smells delish!

i can say this; multiplats games will look nearly identical on ps4 and xb720

The new xbox will destroy the PS4 (trust me).

who cares? we know ram wont be the bottle neck this time, so lets talk about something else.

well i understand that this guy who wrote the article isnt very techy...but here is all good explained of how the durando with dme reach 170 gb/s vs 176 gb/s (ps4) without having the latency problem of the gddr5 (ps4)

http://www.microsofttransla...

Are people really arguing about Ram? I have seen it all.

Wuchang is great. Nine Sols didn’t have a physical copy so I never played it but I’ve heard good things so I will check it out. I stopped playing sports games many years ago when before the card dlc’s or whatever they’re called.

Last comment… ):

Great month for others, but not me. Hate soccer and soulslikes. Maybe Nine Sols is good.

🫡 it was fun while it lasted, N4G.

FC26!

I hated that he died. The game was good but you never want to see a character you can relate or enjoy to die off like that. We wanted more Joel not less. Still a really good game but that part will always sit poorly with many

I really didn’t mind his fate. It was the way it was executed was the problem

Not gonna lie, I think they made a big mistake. I mean I like a big unimaginable shock moments as much as the next person. It was just too soon though. If you’re going to kill off the main character you need a solid back up that people love just as much to carry the weight of the loss. If you’re setting it up for a trilogy then he really should have died at the end of 2 or half way through 3.

Who cares, that was like 6 years ago.

I don't mind the story, I think it is interesting in its own. But I would much prefer it stays as a story between Joel and Ellie (And I don't hate Abby, but it just feels like a third wheel when I play the game, feel like it is not a story about her). Joel can live with the consequences in a different way than just get killed off, his emotional conflicts between him and Ellie, Abby and everyone else would have a lot of interesting stories to tell, not any less than just get killed off.

So we as players, who controlled Joel in the first game, can get immersed and feel the guilt with him, instead of getting angry that he got killed.

TLOU Part 2 was a great game, but the entire game made me mad

Personally I liked that they killed off Joel, his death scene was great. The story was good and how revenge drives a person. The last quarter of the game was dumb after Tommy told Ellie where Abby was located. She leaves the farm goes in an arduous trek killing many more people along the way. Finds Abby in a cage releases her they fight, Ellie gets two fingers bitten off, and suddenly she doesn’t want to fight and kill Abby anymore, lets her leave with a warning even though she was the one losing the fight. Why go the rough all of that hassle just to let the focus of your hatred just leave. Should have stwyed home with Diana and keep all her fingers intact. Still a great game with a good story and I liked Abby I saw no reason for all her hate.

They could have killed Tommy and made it a revenge story with Joel and Ellie going after Abbie.

ND was trying so hard to make me sympathize with Abbie and it just wasn't working. I just don't understand how you make a "revenge is bad story" while having me mow through hundreds of NPCs just to get to the main culprit and just...not finish the job. Druckman is a terrible story teller.