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PS Plus Crucial To PS4

Sony have stated in an interview how important PS Plus is and commented on the future of the PS3.

Canary4846d ago

Well, yeah. Obviously, considering how much they're pushing streaming in the absence of any form of b/c.

I imagine they'll probably let PS+ users stream the PSN games they've already purchased for free; and use a separate subscription model (outside of PS+) for users to stream games they have not purchased. Though PS+ would likely offer a discount.

From a consumer's perspective, I really don't like what Sony is doing at all. But from a business perspective, what they're doing is very admirable. If it works (and even though I don't want it to, it probably will), the PS4 will likely be hugely profitable.

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Well, of course, that all depends on the games. I mean, hell, look at the Vita--one of the best gaming machines ever built, and no one's buying the thing.

fatstarr4846d ago

its a terrible idea capitalizing off the stupidity of the masses, its an apple/activision/ea like move and the consumers wont cry they will accept it and the next time they will see just how far they can go with out pushing the consumers buttons, and slowly but surely they gain control and have a mindless puppet ready to do all bidding with their wallets.

the ps4 will not be profitable for the first few years, no sony console ever is

Canary4846d ago

I really don't see how it's a terrible idea for Sony.

They're competing against Xbox Live. Now, tell me, which is the better value: paying X amount of money for the privelege of using your own internet connection; or paying the same amount of money for an online service that let's you indefinitely rent a massive number of titles?

From a consumer-standpoint, it's a kick in the face for those of us who have been purchasing digital content. We've lost all of that with the PS4. It's terrible.

But for PS+ subscribers who have been playing the same games by renting? It actually (theoretically) improves things for them by letting them stream while downloading, or without downloading.

Couple that with Sony being first out the gate this time, and all they really need is a good marketing campaign to reap some pretty significant profit.

JeepGamer4846d ago

You really don't need to give skeptics like me another reason to write off the PS4 by making PS+ 'crucial'.

ExPresident4846d ago

You would have to be silly to not take advantage of the deal PS+ gives you. It's insane the value you get for the subscription cost. The only issue I could see is if you don't have the ability to download stuff or you have a download cap. If that's the case you aren't forced or required to have PS+ to use online so not sure why people don't respect the service for what it is.... A great option that has amazing value.

To each his own I guess.

fatstarr4846d ago

so basically you are supporting this network and praising it? something you pay for, but in the thousands of ps3-xbox 360 arguments of the past one of the main reasons "xbox was trash " was the simple fact that it needed xbox live. something that you had to pay for... now 4 years later sony has this type of pay service and its totally ok.

really hypocritical.

IRetrouk4846d ago

Compare what you get when you pay for xbox live and ps+, there is a massive diffrence between the two.

clintagious6504846d ago

fatstarr

The difference between the 2 services is BIG difference. One service u pay to play your online games with. The other service u pay to get free games & discounts on other games & get 1st access to demos & betas.

amiga-man4846d ago (Edited 4846d ago )

fatstar

you couldn't be more wrong, there is no one more critical of the M$ business model than me it is a huge con, they take away YOUR internet and force you to pay to get it back, that is completely different from the Sony business model, they have taken nothing away you still have YOUR internet access and are free to play online browse the net watch Netflix etc, instead they actually offer you something worth paying for and the value of PS+ is there for all to see but if you don't see the value you are still able to play online for free, if that ever changes the you would have a point and unlike you supporting the M$ con of paying to use YOUR internet I would refuse.

See the difference.

ExPresident4846d ago

@fatstarr

If you seriously think my statement is hypocritical then you are clearly missing the key differences in the network.

I can do everything I need to in order to play my games or watch movies online without ever paying Sony an online fee to do it. PS+ is simply a choice I have that adds extremely good value over its cost.

With XBox you have to pay, as others have said, to simply play your online games. Nothing I said was hypocritical. I praise a service that is an OPTION to me, not a requirement, that also adds more value then it costed me to get it.

Personally, if Microsoft had a better business model (ie free online since I already pay for the game and my internet provider) I'd love to own one for a few of their exclusives. But I don't agree with the required LIVE payment.

Take your non-gamer friendly attitude somewhere else. PS+ is a clear win for GAMERS.

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landog4846d ago

not intrested in streaming video games even 1%

i could not care less if i tried

what i want is standard controls, no 3d, the game to come on a bluray disc, better a.i.

larger worlds

better physics

the graphics to be 1080p native, with 4x anti aliasing

v-sync always enabled so i never see a torn frame

30 frames minimum, never less,

pc quality textures, shadows and lighting

thats it

take gaikai and shove it ...lol...

and i'll just keep my ps3 to play ps3 games and all the digital content i own thanks

streaming is crap for movies, now imagine it 10x more terrible because of lag/latency every time you press a button and wait for the server to enter it, then for it to come back to you and appear on screen

its bloody awful, trust me

just give me normal games with amazing quality graphics and we're good

WeAreLegion4846d ago

Vudu streams movies at 1080p very well, even with my crappy connection.

Soldierone4846d ago

When I used Vudu it was "better" than other streaming, but you can still tell it was getting compressed. The HDX one worked decent, but the HD one still wasn't amazing.

Blu-ray beats it all hands down though.

Streaming works for movies because it can be compressed then "unpacked" at the console and streamed. It isn't constantly looking for input and output, it simply sends data and the machine reads it.

WeAreLegion4846d ago

You can tell? Really? I highly doubt that. In side-by-side comparisons, it looks identical to blu-ray. I've had to do this for three websites.

SolidDuck4846d ago

360 gets bashed cause if u want to play multiplayer, or watch netflix, Hulu or anything like that u have to pay for xbox live gold. Those are all free to access on ps3. PS plus is a much more optional service with more content value. It's apples and oranges.

dcbronco4846d ago (Edited 4846d ago )

Sony will own the parts in the PS4 also. Everyone goes to a major chip architect for the base design. They then pay them to modify it and add features of their design or that they pay the company(AMD in this case) to design. They can then shop that chip to anyone they want. The problems with bring down the cost on the Cell are different. Buy straight off the shelf is more expensive. That's what Microsoft did with the first Xbox and why it remained more than they could sell it for the entire lifetime. No console maker will ever let someone else own their CPU and GPU again.

PSN+ is crucial because PSN cost millions to run and it provides some income to help cover the cost.

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted42d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8542d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele41d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk41d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay41d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10142d ago (Edited 42d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit41d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg41d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10141d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14941d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Former Xbox Exec Says Developers Didn't Want a Sony Monopoly

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Reaper22_55d ago

I dont think that'll ever happen. But i must say back in the day, they were definitely trying because they were more cash rich than their competitors.

CosmicTurtle54d ago

I think MS were and still are the richer company. They tried to acquire Sega back in the day (and considered doing so again more recently), they obviously bought exclusivity to Halo which was originally shown as a Mac title. I don’t think as a company MS can claim the moral high ground here. It’s a wilful lack of self awareness.

Of course Sony would try exactly the same if they had the resources, but when the PS2 dominated the industry was in a much healthier place with an abundance of great third parties.

This has been a depressing generation as far as first party decisions are concerned. The fact we are debating business plans rather than which game is better is a sad reflection of the state of things.

Darkseeker55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

There was Nintendo as well, Sony wouldn't have had a monopoly. In fact, the world would be better today if Xbox never existed in the first place. They pretty much brought all bad practices we have today. We might have gotten all of it either way, but not this early. In term of franchises, I don't think there is anything Microsoft released that would actually be missed if it didn't exist. Even Halo the world wouldn't notice if Halo didn't exist.

S2Killinit54d ago

MS was definitely a bad influence on gaming.

raWfodog55d ago

I think almost everyone will agree that a monopoly is not good for the industry. But that being said, the competition needs to be smart and strategic with their business. Simply buying up publishers and traditional third-party studios just to keep them out of the other companies reach is not a sustainable practice. That goes for all parties so don't think I'm just referring to Xbox.

I'm no business guru by any stretch of the imagination but I firmly believe that the best way to drive consumers to your software and hardware is to invest smart in your first-party studios. Give them full support and guidance in making unique, fun games that are only available to play in your ecosystem and the gamers will come.

Reaper22_55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

But first party studios aren't enough. They only make up a small portion of the industry. Without 3rd party there would be no industry for Microsoft or sony.Developing games take time and money and sometimes you gotta make moves to stay competitive.

raWfodog55d ago

Nah, I never said first-party was enough. I said it’s the ‘best way’ to drive gamers to your platform. 3rd-party is a free-for-all and there’s no guarantee that gamers will use your hardware to play the game. If you want to push your own software and/or hardware you need first-party, or at least exclusive deals with third-party studios.

SimpleDad55d ago

They Shure did a great job... 25 years later Xbox is dead.

Reaper22_55d ago

Then why be so emotional and continue to talk about it. Xbox will never die be ause it stays in so many people's head.

lodossrage55d ago

How can you even see him being "emotional" in that comment?

If anything, you're the emotional one, constantly trying to go at anyone that says anything against Microsoft. So when you call him emotional, it comes off as deflection

Elda54d ago

I own an XBSX & I can say it's becoming irrelevant out of the 3 current consoles.

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Sony Shows Off 20 Minutes of Crimson Desert on a Base PS5

Sony uploaded gameplay footage of Crimson Desert on a base PS5 running in what appears to be Quality Mode at a stable 30fps at 4K.

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BlazedKong81d ago

looks god awful on the base systems