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VGLeaks: Durango CPU Overview

The Durango CPU brings a host of modern micro-architectural performance features to console development. With Durango, a familiar instruction set architecture and high performance silicon mean developers can focus effort on content and features, not micro-optimization. The trend towards more parallel power continues in this hardware; so, an effective strategy for multi-core computing is more important than ever.

TheLyonKing4826d ago

Really not sure about it, plus it seems like extra cost for not to much extra power.

But thats my thoughts on it

DoesUs4826d ago

It's basically a stock Jaguar, much like the PS4 variant.

BABYLEG4826d ago (Edited 4826d ago )

500$ Microsoft lay the hammer on next Gen and completely dismantles the competition no matter if the next Xbox is weaker/stronger than the PS4/wiiu. Bookmark this, and come back here. You guys are delusional if you think Microsoft is abandoning gamers.

I can not wait for next Gen for the simple fact that all the people who was talking shit will look so stupid when their almighty powerful game system overestimated the console market and fail.

who else is as hyped for MS as I am. The internet will be very quiet in due time. The rats will crawl back into their hole

Ron_Danger4826d ago

They aren't abandoning gamers since they are still making their usual games for their next console. The problem is with the direction they are heading with their new console (based solely on all the rumors of course.) it seems like they are trying to make an all in one box with their cable like service that is developing. If they really do create an all in one machine, you can't expect them to equally share development focus across the board. After a year or 2 on the market, they'll take whatever service they provide that is the most profitable and make that their main focus. Gamers just need to hope that it's the games portion of their services that remains on top.

otherZinc4826d ago

@BABYLED,
I agree completely.

@Ron_Danger,
Some of you guys say M$ is abandoning gamers, SONY is all about the gamer???
Well:
I dont see Killzone making an 11million dollar movie for The Gamer! I dont see SONY creating a team like 343; MILLIONS spent there!

SONY released info of a Kinect like device for the PS4 at the press conference on the 20th & you guys act like no one saw this. You guys act like no one saw that weak Move demonstration. You guys act like no one saw any of this...Move is garbage & we all know this!

SONY has its core games: Uncharted, God Of War, GT, ant thats it that sells good Day 1 numbers without price cuts that Shareholders hate!

M$ has its core games: Halo, Gears, Fable. Million selling Day 1 dominators.

So what if they dont waste money making garbage that doesnt sell.

BABYLEG is right. M$ is going to bring it! Not with hypotheticals, but with a visual 720 console to show, but also with the functionality that they will speak of.

Ron_Danger4826d ago

Shocking that someone with one bubble assumed my comment was anti Microsoft. Trolls from all camps are really getting out of hand on this site.

smashcrashbash4826d ago (Edited 4826d ago )

Yawn. Another fanboy getting antsy because Sony talked about the PS4 first. 'Don't worry Microsoft is going to bring it and beat the PS4.You'll see *tears running down eyes*. We aren't worried but I think you might be. Ever since the PS4 was announced we have been listening to tears coming from all sides insisting you aren't afraid. 'Microsoft is going to bring a psychical console so that will beat the PS4'. PC is still king.PS4 will suck for sure' Wii U can still beat the PS4. I am sure of it'. It's so nice to see that despite all the trash talk you guys say against the PS4 it still has you concerned.The dragon is weak and you are still afraid.

smashcrashbash4826d ago

Wow someone is getting mighty defensive. Microsoft has games that sell crappy just like every other system.Not sure why people always hide behind Halo and Gears and refuse to acknowledge the games that sell like rubbish or even the Kinect games that sell like rubbish.They do 'waste money' as you put it selling garbage that doesn't sell.There is a whole list of it including Kinect game. It's just fanboys make sure and ignore them so it doesn't disrupt their fanboyish deluded state.As soon as we talk about sales you run behind Halo's and Gears skirts and put your fingers in your ears if we even mention the failed games Microsoft has made.

BTW Kinect is garbage too. It's just that Microsoft people were more gullible to fall for Microsoft's con that's all. Kinect games sell like crap and Microsoft uses it for nothing but stupid gimmicks.If you saw Kinect doing what Move was doing with MM you would be cheering them on and attacking anyone who said otherwise but since it is Move you come trash talking it.People cheered on every crap Kinect claimed it could do but no one even cares anymore.No even wants it for the next gen. Did you even look outside your fanboy bubble and see that not even hackers who claimed that Kinect could be hacked to do all sorts of stuff are even doing it anymore? Sorry to bring you back to reality but Kinect is crap too. It's just that Microsoft conned you into buying it better then Sony did with the Move. And talking about not seeing or remembering don't think we have forgot Microsoft's promise to use the Kinect for things besides gimmicks and how it is more accurate then a controller. We are still waiting for it to replace the controller and for the gimmicks to stop. Just because you believed every lie Microsoft told doesn't put you in any position to critize the Move.

Dragos754826d ago

"it seems like they are trying to make an all in one box with their cable like service that is developing."

And sony is doing the exact same thing. They just don't talk about it as much. Sony even bragged that nextflix on PS3 is used more than any other device. Sony wants that living room too. It makes sense because out of the two they are much more of an entertainment company than MS is.

Ron_Danger4826d ago

What you say about Sony is true to some extent. The difference between Sony and Microsoft heading into the next generation, though, is that Sony is sort of partnering themselves with services like Netflix and Amazon Prime, whereas Microsoft created a new studio who's sole purpose is to work on their new "cable" service.

Sony has never been shy about they're multimedia services. The CD player in PS1, DVD player in PS2, and BluRay in PS3 were all selling points to each system. Sony have stated (and clearly shown in their Feb 20th conferance) that they are not changing their focus on gaming. Microsoft on the other hand has yet to make a clear statement on their stance as far as a focus on next gen gaming. So for now we can only speculate and hope that they'll continue their gaming focus, but as the days go on and more (rumored) info comes out, it's getting harder and harder to believe that the next Xbox will be gaming first.

And I'm not disagreeing with you, just want some form of good conversation.

FrigidDARKNESS4826d ago

Dual cpu and gpu with 8 x64 four per cpu. This completely blows the orbis away cant wait to see BF4 on the Durango running on a souped up version of DX-11.

SlyFoxC4826d ago

pretty sure that the 720 and ps4 have the same cpu and gpu...

DoesUs4826d ago

Sly, it's nigh on the same CPU. It's going to be rather disappointing to the MS supporters when the actual machine is unveiled.

SlyFoxC4826d ago

idk i just looked up the CPU in each and here we go

PS4 CPU
- contains 8 jaguar cores at 1.6 ghz arranged into two clusters
- each cluster contains 4 cores and a shared 2mb L2 cache

720 CPU
- 8 cores running 1.6 ghz
-each module of 4 cores has a 2 MB L2 cache resulting in a total of 4 MB of L2

Huh....that sound like the exact same cpu to me....

the GPU for both are exactly the same also...

greenpowerz4826d ago

VGLeaks seems to be getting lucky with rummored specs.

VGLeaks Orbis was almost dead on before Sony changed some of the specs at their reveal.

http://www.vgleaks.com/worl...

Some of these things in that link were dead on just days/weeks befoer Sony's reveal

720 Seems to be a multi taking champ #1

Bumpmapping4826d ago

Same CPU as the PS4 next.

SlyFoxC4826d ago

@greeen

that is the same CPU as the ps4 which is what i was trying to tell Frigid

it takes 5 seconds to search this stuff...

http://www.vgleaks.com/worl...

http://www.vgleaks.com/worl...

Both are from the same site so my guess is that we have basically two of the same systems with different ram and different names.

doesnt matter to me tho im getting both

jmac534826d ago

Microsoft built the Xbox brand on core gamers. I doubt that they will let that branding slip away.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio17d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing17d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit17d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing17d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay19d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn220d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn219d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown20d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay19d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay19d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac19d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger20d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300020d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde20d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde19d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7521d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_18d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.