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How Likely is Xbox 720 Backwards Compatibility?

Gaming Future takes a look at the possibilities for backwards compatibility support with Xbox 720.

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Omar914824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

I understand those who say "I will play my ps4 for ps4 games and keep my ps3", but if the whole purpose of sony adding all these great features to ps4 are to make gaming more convenient for everyone, what better way can you make a console convenient to players by having 4 systems in 1? Sure I can keep my ps3 and play ps3 games when I want, but thats not convenient at all. It would be nice if they find a way to make this all work.

Nextbox will most likely have a similar approach to BC using a cloud service imo.

NYC_Gamer4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

I doubt 720 will have traditional backwards compatibility..I'm keeping my old consoles anyway so doesn't really bother me..

BanBrother4824d ago

Yeah probably only MS first party games. The BC on 360 is quite limited. PoP 1 is BC, but not 2 and 3 lol.

Next-gen will have a huuuuuge amount of remasters of games we have this gen, mark my words.

MikeMyers4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

After all the headaches and paying royalties to Nvidia from going to the Xbox 360, I think the next Xbox will have it. They are once again going with AMD and could easily offer it either on the hardware end or through the cloud. Perhaps both Sony and Microsoft will have a streaming service, or continue selling them digitally, that gives consumers the option to play older generation titles. Probably makes more sense from a business perspective.

C-Thunder4824d ago

I think that we, as gamers, should hope they can add it, even if it isn't at launch, purely because many Xbox exclusives deserve to be playable in the future. Lets face it, in 10 years we'll probably be hard pressed to find functioning Xbox 360s, there's just to much in them that goes wrong too often.

majiebeast4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

Not gonna happen next xbox is moving from PPC to X86(rumoured) So they would have to put a 360 in every Durango, which would up the cost of the console by a generous ammount. This includes both disc and digital title's not being BC.

turnerdc4824d ago

Not necessarily. They could do like they did with the Xbox 360 and do software emulation. The original Xbox was x86 while the Xbox 360 was PPC.

greenpowerz4824d ago

I love how Sony fans are sure what MSFT can do or can not do, or will do or will not do when they want to paint the 720 the way they wan't in defence of PlayStation.

BlueTemplar4824d ago

I love how you are sure what they will do without a single shred of evidence to back it up.

Seems you're happy to believe rumours that you like, while instantly dismissing any you dont.

SDF Repellent4824d ago

Of course it can happen. First, Microsoft is a software company and they will have a better knowledge of implementing BC through emulation via software; especially when the last GPU was from ATI, which is much easier to do BC than the PS3 with its Cell processor and Nvidia GPU. It is a combination of hardware and software that will enable this to happen.

BlueTemplar4824d ago

That knowledge didnt serve them that well with B/C on the 360 - they only got around half the games working after about 2 years before giving up on it - and those that worked were full of glitches and issues.

Also, you say that as though the other platform holders arent software companies - what are the games they produce if not software?

SDF Repellent4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

Hmm, because just like the PS3, the GPU in the original Xbox was made by Nvidia vice ATi? I thought I pointed that out already.

Regarding software company, I think you are either trying to twist my words or just not understanding the words that are coming out of my mouth. What I meant was Microsoft is a software company first, that is what they are, so in order to do emulation, you got to be good in writing software and create the emulation. That is why they will have the advantage over Sony, and did such a great job of emulating most of the original xbox games for the X360, which is something that Sony had failed to do with the PS3/PS2.

Edit below. Son, when you are talking about BC it is mostly software and unless your hardware feature components that are similar to previous hardware that you are trying to emulate, it is a hard task to do. Even if Sony is a better hardware maker, so what? They make the best cameras, the best TVs, the best mp3 players that feature all the bells and whistles but where have that gotten them? Hardware is only part of the equation, along with software, a long term overall plan, and marketing.

BlueTemplar4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

I understand you perfectly well, but just because they are primarily a software company doesnt mean they are the only software company in the land that is capable of writing emulation software.

EDIT: And they didnt do a "great job" of emulating xbox software on the 360 - only the halo games were playable at launch and both they and subsequent games were a glitchy horrible mess to play.

Also, if we accept what you say and that microsoft make the best software because thats their primary business, does that mean sony makes the best hardware because they are primarily a hardware company?

rainslacker4824d ago (Edited 4824d ago )

What a load of crap. First you don't emulate software, you emulate hardware. Are you telling me that Sony which has the capability to build 5 entirely different consoles, all built on highly specialized processes and unique chips, don't understand hardware or software enough to write their own emulators.

Perhaps you missed the flawless emulation of PS1 games on the PS3, Vita, and PSP, or the awesome emulation of PSP games on the Vita, or the limited emulation of PSN PS2 classics on the PS3. Quite honestly much more impressive than Microsoft's lackluster software based emulation which was pretty much crap on a majority of games because it was incomplete.

There is a big difference in architecture with the Cell which is preventing PS3 BC on the PS4, and as much as it sucks, it's understandable, and honestly, the GPU isn't really the issue on any system.

More on topic: Right now it will depend greatly on how much different the architecture is on the nextBox. It can also come down to IF MS wants to support BC. They are perfectly able to block it for whatever business reason they feel will benefit them. Not to call out MS on this, but I am personally wondering why PS1 BC isn't available in the PS4 since the emulation is definitely possible. Only reasonable assumption is to force using the cloud or get people to rebuy games(hence, not really BC).

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot13d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle12d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7712d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Star Wars: Bounty Hunter Let Jango Fett Loose

LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7717d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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We Are Xbox

Dear team,

Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300018d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7218d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit17d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania18d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit17d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0717d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr18d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box18d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr17d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9518d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7218d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--17d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7217d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket17d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm17d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde17d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9217d ago (Edited 17d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_18d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted18d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit17d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9217d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT18d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers18d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14917d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0717d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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