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After February 20, Where Does That Leave Microsoft?

Once Sony makes its February 20 announcement, Microsoft is last to present a console. What could be waiting for us?

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FrigidDARKNESS4859d ago

Microsoft dont have to do anything till march and showcase the next xbox atGDC 2013 which is going to smash and crush the faces of its competition.

majiebeast4859d ago (Edited 4859d ago )

With what more Halo and kinect 2.0 dont make me laugh. If Microsoft wants to make a impact they need new IP's not apps not exclusive deals for ESPN not exclusive timed dlc. But games and seeing as the last few of their E3's have been worse then the last i dont see that happening.

Mikefizzled4858d ago

Microsoft have a suprising number of exclusives yet to be announced. Some of which are definitely new IPs

PFFT4858d ago (Edited 4858d ago )

Youd have to be quite messed up in the head if you think MS has no new games planned. Ahhh fanboys.....you cant live with them nor can you get rid of them.......

Mikefizzled4858d ago (Edited 4858d ago )

Did you not see the recent post about Black Tusk Studios having 4 unannounced IPs in the works.
Lionheads potentially new IP/ Fable MMO. Rares super secret projects. Then a disappointingly large dollop of Kinect and Arcade games for good measure.

d0nT wOrrY4858d ago

We've heard that A LOT. New IP, surprising number of exclusives blah blah blah. Still nothing.

Highlife4858d ago

Mikefizzled - "Rares super secret projects"

Wait there are still people working at Rare.

DOMination-4858d ago (Edited 4858d ago )

Here is a list of what many people would call "Hardcore Projects" being developed by Microsoft First Party Studios:

* 343 Studios - Halo 5 and another [probably halo related] project (they have two teams)
* Connected Experiences - Unannounced large scale multiplayer title
* MS LA - Unannounced new IP "cinematic title"
* MS Redmond - Overseeing and Co-Developing "multiple projects"
* Platform Next Studios - Unannounced New IP
*Skybox Sports - Unannounced Sports title (New IP? Don't think MS have done a sports game before??)
* Turn 10 - Now a two team studio. One is Forza 5 and another unannounced title (PGR5?)
* Twisted Pixel - Unannounced title
* Lionhead - Unannounced new IP. Thought to be an MMO project.
* Lift London - "multiple unannounced cloud based games"
* Press Play - Unannounced Project
* Black Tusk - "multiple unannounced new IPs"
* MS Victoria - Unannounced Project

Now here are MS Casual/Family/Kinect Studios:

* BigPark - ???
* Xbox Live Productions - ???
* Playful Learning - "Next Generation Family Project"
* MS Soho - ???
* MS Mobile - ???
* Good Science Studio - ???
* Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment - "Next Generation fitness project"
* Rare - Allegedly now a 3 team studio

I can't be bothered to link because people would disagree and too naive to believe it anyway.

But anybody who thinks MS will have no games is in for a huge surprise.

kreate4858d ago

Ms doesn't need high budget exclusive titles. It will sell regardless. The 360 has proven this in America.

They don't have to change anything. Halo and gears is all they need.

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-Falaut-4858d ago (Edited 4858d ago )

Fo realz internet gangsta?

BuLLDoG9094858d ago

good one, you should be a standup comedian

user39158004858d ago

I only see MS reveal in march if ps4 is revealed in feb. I see both PS4 AND 720 a real close match with same cpu and similar ram, it will come down to preference and option with the system, I think MS will have more extra stuff included like illumiroom, better live, skype, windows8 os, better apps and a whole lot more internet advantage, but PS4 more likely to have more first party. Third party support will be equally distributed with minimal diference at best. PS4 and 720 will rock and wii-u will have the support of less casuals but lack of third party support again.

darx4858d ago

That is the thing with Windows 8. It will allow for more cross platform gaming for the developers who put forth the effort. It looks like that may be the way gaming is going, we'll see. Steambox to an extent and a lesser extent the OUYA also will allow for cross platform gaming.

GalacticEmpire4858d ago

The thing is, with win 8 taking up so much of 'nextbox' CPU (rumored 2 cores) and RAM (rumored 2GB) it may mean that apps run better but at a huge cost to game performance.

Personally, I'm agaisnt this.

bicfitness4858d ago

PS4 supposedly has a faster GPU and RAM. All the speculation on Neogaf so far (which has been startlingly correct) has the PS4 pegged as noticeably better, performance wise, than the Durango. MS is going for a large OS with multiple social features and Kinect support. That is their focus.

1upgamer994858d ago

I for one will not buying Nextbox, and just because it is going to be powerful does not make up for the fact that Sony and Nintendo have the IPs. The past 2 years Sony has been catching up to the Xbox in sales that is for sure. Halo has been done to death, Gears of War is pretty cool, but not going to make or break me if I don't have it. So I for one will be chillaxin playing Wii U online FREE and see what Sony has up is sleeve this E3.

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MultiConsoleGamer4859d ago

I think it's pretty foolish to think that there are only two players in the market, and that one must always respond to the other.

LackTrue4K4859d ago

i have a question,
"what dose MS have this year, any games coming up???"
if nothing, i have no doubt, there gana announce there next console within this year.

1upgamer994858d ago

Uh, yeah they are announcing a new console this year.

rbailey4858d ago

Microsoft will be fine with whatever happens at this point. If you remember, they started a countdown to E3 on Major Nelson's blog only a few days into 2013. That got alot of people talking and likewise this will continue long after Sony makes their announcement. Obviously anyone can guess that new consoles will be further detailed at E3 2013. Microsoft has no exclusives aside from Halo and a handful of Xbox Live arcade titles so in my mind they def releasing the next xbox this year. As for PlayStation and that Feb 20th date, anything less then an actual PS4 reveal would singlehandedly be one of the worst moves Sony could ever make in the entire studio's history.

Cocozero4858d ago

Sony is foolish to announce the PS4 so early because we likely wont hear about it again till E3 and if MS announces the 720 the any PS4 new will be overshadowed

kneon4858d ago

Assuming the Feb 20th event is even about the PS4, which is not at all guaranteed, there is nothing foolish about it.

The last few E3's Sony has announced/leaked info for months before E3. That had the effect of having Sony constantly in the gaming news leading up to E3. And it seems to be working yet again given what the front page of N4G looks like most days lately.

It's a pretty good strategy. Just like at every other conference only the biggest announcements get noticed while everything else gets lost in the noise. This approach ensures they get more overall coverage in the press than if they just announced everything at E3.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio26d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing26d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9226d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit26d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing26d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9226d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay28d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn229d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn228d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown29d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay28d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay28d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac28d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger29d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300029d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde29d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde28d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7530d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_28d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.