it is only current gen soon to be last gen

personally, this generation of gaming wasnt as impressive as last's. I wonder what will come in the new next-gen

I'll get a good idea on whether I'll get a WiiU or not after this years E3.

and of course a kotaku member responded on that first on twitter. typical kotaku nintendo hating fanboys. I've seen newly made amateur sites with better journalism talent than kotaku.

Yeah, they should have made the Wii U more powerful, but in the end it doesn't really matter. Nintendo is still a profitable company; they'll still make Zelda, Metroid, and Smash Bros.; and this gen their games will actually have the ability to look good with a decent graphics card, enough RAM, and no more 480p. It's not the next gen gamers wanted but I still see the Wii U as a good secondary system.

EA is just stating the obvious, another flame article.

Even game devs are saying it,
I guess that makes EA fanboys lol /s

that's what I metioned it s only this gen console and had a lot of disagrees for saying it not next gen ?

Im getting sick of this whole debate. Who cares about Next-gen, this-gen, that-gen or whatever-gen. Play them all for whatever enjoyment they may bring.
Nintendo has a conservative business strategy and they undertstand better than the others that is about the gameplay and how you interact with your games and not necessarily how many terraflops they can put out. I mean what is even the point to have amazing hardware if it is only utilized to its fullest by a small percent of developers. Also, developers are going to have to spend more and more money to make the next-gen games. You think that will result in lower game prices or more and better games??
I don't even know why i allow myself to get involved, just too tempting, i guess.

WiiU not true next-gen console, but awesome nice visuals and unique japan games coming this platform.

Ps and Xbox 70% FPS/TPS console. Nintendo not, and dear EA, your games 80% shit next-gen or not.

Its Next Gen....from the Wii. More like current gen when compared to 360 and PS3.

I always thought that it was weird to compare Wii in the same league as the 360 and PS3.

Wii had no HD, and most of the games graphics sucked compared to the other too..

WiiU seems to be on par with the 360 and PS3, but with the next consoles, Nintendo will be behind again.

I'm really angry at EA and their relations with Nintendo as of late. They got up on stage at E3 2011 to announce a "great partnership" and how happy they were to work with Nintendo. Now, we have rushed ports with lacking content, releasing ME3 without the first two games, then releasing a trilogy collection for everything else.

How could the CEO for EA(i think it was the CEO) and Iwata get on the E3 stage together and now EA gives them the worst support possible.

PS4 and Nextbox will have to have top of the line power, or else the whole "WiiU is not next-gen" argument will be dead. We're talking about HD vs non-HD difference, not PS3 vs 360 difference.

Watch EA not even try to create an IP for the WiiU that maximizes hardware, which is where the problem lies.

I'm saving this article for when the "Next-gen" is revealed. Should be interesting to compare then to now

Nintendo will be fine obviously they left room for a price drop so I think well be seeing that sometime later this year fall perhaps

aren't 90% of the wii u's library current gen titles anyways

THANK YOU. Wii U is nothing but a catch up system.

Too late to the game Nintendo.

They said "Not Quite" meaning that 720/PS4 will have more Power, NOT that the Wii U is under powered. There are plenty of developers who are working on it. Gearbox/Sega, Monolith Soft, Two Tribes, Oh yeah and also EA have all said good things about Wii U. I don't know too many people who thought the Wii U would be a mega powerhouse. It still has more power than PS3/360. Look at The Last of Us. If PS3 can pull that off and Wii Has even 20% more power, that is enough for me. (Until PS4 of coarse)

The wii u is already doing things the ps3 and 360 can't do and obviously games built from the ground up will look better then games built from the ground up on the 360 and ps3 now whether that is sooner or later who knows and im sure there are some examples but for games to obviously look better then ps3 and 360 games shit it might be this year or next year but it will happen and I'm sure more games on the system will be doing things the ps3 and 360 can't do and its funny how nintendo does nothing right and can't do this and wont do that and will not get these games etc etc so many people think they know what will happen when they don't know shit lol but to know the facts there is somethinh called a search engine and you can do RESEARCH and know all of the facts you want and if you still have questions then wait for it to probably be addressed with an update to the console or just message nintendo directly

I look after games, I am no fan of the hardware, I just look after the games and if the line-up looks boring in my eyes, than I do not buy, simple. Do not care if it is last gen/this gen/next gen or the gen after this gen, if the line-up is bad, the line-up is bad.

EA is not next-gen, their games gameplay plays sooo outdated. EA will be forever last-gen and forgotten and because of that they're trying something to be not forgotten, some time in the distant future, explorer/scientists will find the EA Basis under the artic snow & ice.

ill stick with my wiiu im more then happy with it

Don't really care haven't been a tendo fan since duck hunt, punch-out. But as for the delay to fuse that sucks..

@BitbyDeath.

Last of Us isn't a TPS? Look gameplay, its TPS/Action-adventure.

Beyond Two Souls - Interactive movie not pure game, yes its true. Pure game? C'Mon Man.

Go play SMG 1-2, Bayonetta, Witcher 1-2, old JRPG Chrono Trigger-Chrono Cross, Dragon Quest VII-VIII etc. This is pure video games. Not "Interactive drama".

Guys

Publishers/Developers are just as much human as everyone here, they get bored too.

They need something to keep them exited for the entire life span of a gaming console.

10 years a long time to invest especially when Dev have to make sure their working with tools/cutting edge tech to stay on top of the market.

So unfortunately, the Wii U doesn't bring that excitement that they're looking for.

Well, the anti-Nintendo brigade wasted no time showing up here. Lets ignore the multiple developers and publishers who have praised this platform in the past.

Like Vigil, Gearbox, Shin'en, Epic and even Crytek.

Oh and this is coming from a member of Kotaku. This community never fails.

Wii U is bound to get at least 5 must haves, and probably 10 great games.

So a couple of handfuls of great games, worth it if you like those games, so personally i will be using that with my PC and possibly a PS4.

Wii U does have potential to have games that are better looking than 360/ps3, but it doesn't help that Reggie lied saying multiplats look significantly better on Wii U.

That is not a good sign. What EA are doing here is drawing a line in the sand, which means they'll treat the Wiiu as a current gen system and the 720/PS4 as a next gen console. The positives are that the Wiiu won't be used as the lowest common denominator come next gen; the bad news is that Nintendo will struggle to get any great support from EA. I'll say it again because I clearly haven't said it enough. Wiiu owners better hope that developers embrace the PS3/Vita combo because that will guarantee more support for the Wiiu.

salty cause no Nintendo owners were gonna pick up their shitty rehashed sports games.

and besides that's good, if everyone is a 2 console house why waste money picking up the same game twice. save the support so we don't hear bitching about x game didn't sell like hot cakes on x system.

and wtf is this gen 4.

its gen 8 EA. Dont disrespect previous consoles.

Wow, Wii U is really taking a beating today. Hmmm... makes me wonder if Pachter and EA coordinated this, LOL.

Ah, whatever. The lineup looks good to me so far and I've already stated I'm definitely getting one in the future, most likely with a PS4 as well. I'll enjoy my games while people can continue to fight online about whether this or that is "Next-gen".

I just want good games man.

who cares, its not like anyone here even buys EA games so you guys can use this to fuel your hate and fear of nintendo domination but it doesnt change anything.

we will play unique games, you can play 'interactive' beyond 2 souls and the 10 TPS clones with different themes (uncharted, tomb raider, starwars 1313, ETC ETC ETC).

Why are we still arguing about this????????

It is a next-gen console in name. Yes, it's more powerful than the PS360 (we already KNOW what's inside), yes, the other upcoming system will be even more powerful.

Well it's practically common sense when all everyone is doing is comparing the Wii U to current generation consoles, why on earth would it be Next Generation?

As I have always said it's Nintendo's Next Gen console just like practically Sony pointed out and it's not necessarily a bad thing but considering Nintendo has for the most part always been behind console wise even when they had better hardware it wasn't being pushed to do anything more than what lower spec machines were doing was the problem.

So it shouldn't matter to anyone now, the only time it bothers me is when people brag about how the Wii U is going to kill the PS4 and 720 things that haven't even been released yet but all the Wii U can be compared to is 7 year old systems..

When people are comparing the PS4, 720 and the Wii U and the Wii U is outperforming both you can brag all you want but it just isn't justified to compare it to really old consoles.

That is the problem I think with many Nintendo users, they mainly never care about hardware and that is what Nintendo delivers to you each time. Thing is if you cared more about hardware you would know about the only thing in the Wii U better than current generation is the GPU which is barely better than the others but that doesn't mean much when the CPU is far weaker.

I mean if the N64 was such a powerhouse Playstation would not have done nearly as well as they did but they did well because they were pushing the PS1. The N64 had really fun games but they never pushed the hardware of the N64 which had double the memory of the PS1 at the time but only produced games that matched in quality.

So like I said if you are Nintendo fan and you are here commenting on this chances are you actually do care about hardware because like I said this is nothing new at all with Nintendo so these articles should not even bother you knowing what you bought but I guess that is the problem. Many Nintendo fans never care to learn about hardware or ask for more out of it or really care what is inside what they buy.

It's almost like the stigma the Apple iPhone has created with it's user base. Even though their phones are far from the best their user base barely knows anything about what they own they just talk it up because they were told it's the best but anyone who has probably just built a computer once in their life would know based on the Wii U components it just isn't technically real Next Generation console something that truly breaks free from what we have seen.

The new Xenoblade or whatever it will be looks great but again it's nothing that could not have been done on the PS3 or Xbox 360 graphically so again it's nothing new to many.

I just feel if you truly don't care about hardware there is no need to even defend your hardware which I see many Nintendo fans here claiming they don't but then defending the Wii U which I find a little contradicting.

I just always think it's important to care about hardware and software both are important. It's like having a body, without a brain. They both work cohesively so people should not be so afraid to care about hardware, it doesn't make you a horrible person just because you care about both.

Ahh N4G the site known for it's trolls jumping the gun-I can't wait to see the correction from EA within the next few days saying this was taken out of context or misunderstood, it's happened before and will happen again-some guy from Kotaku tweets this statement from EA(which I don't see the name Nintendo or WIIU in that statement regardless of implication) and all the trolls and haters from this site jump all over it like white on rice..lol. Will these same people that are bashing the system to high heaven be here when a clarification gets released? Nope-where were all you guys when multiple devs from 5th Cell to Vigil and Gearbox stated already that the U is indeed quite powerful and next gen?

"Wow. EA just said Wii U isn't a next-generation console. "

-Jason Schreier on twitter

What EA really said: "What we're describing as gen four has yet to come."

Helps to read the article. Whether or not EA implied that is another matter.

Despite what someone at EA says, the Wii U is technically next generation simply because of the number of consoles Nintendo has released. Nintendo has always been about accessibility and fun gameplay. The Wii U is definitely fun, I'd love to see some of the rumored E3 titles in action, Smash Brothers, Zelda and a 3D Mario game, but I've been more then happy with my purchase.

It is looking like Nintendo will get the short end of the stick when it comes to third party support, but that seems to be the trend with every Nintendo console. I think I don't speak just for myself when I say I didn't buy a Wii U or any Nintendo console for third party games. Hopefully the third party companies will support the Wii U, but even if they don't Nintendo has enough to make the console successful.

I believe Nintendo relied a bit too much on New Super Mario Brother's U for the launch, and while it's an excellent game, most Nintendo fans have NSMB2 on DS or Wii.

The heck is "Gen Four"?

i liked nintendo back in the n64/gamecube days

sadly they sold out the core gamer in favor of soccer moms and grammas

hope that wii fit money was worth it ninty

Agreed,It does seem like Nintendo will get the short end of the stick when it comes to third party.

But the real issue I have with Nintendo is that all of their AAA titles haven't evolve as much since the NES days.

Take Sega's sonic for example, the graphic and play mechanics have improved a lot since it first was release on the Sega Genesis. Now don't get me wrong, Mario Galaxy was a masterpiece but in comparison to Sonic Generation it fall behind. Sonic Generation surpasses Mario Galaxy by a huge margin in terms of Graphics, play mechanics, and fun factor.

Being that EA has officially tested what ever they are making on PS4/720 and Wii U, I'd say it's safe to say they know what the hell they are talking about.

Just think about it, in another 8 years the only third-party that isn't bankrupt will be EA.

Screw EA for wasting their time on mobile games, screw EA for patches/dlcs/paid everything, and screw EA for their anti competitive behaviour and strangling control measures.

lol the same ea loving the wiiu....the wiiu is the perfect system right now and with all the features and uniqueness its def next generation and will be copied by competitors..then again they will say 3ds is not next generation , yet its 30 million ahead right?

Word: Next-Generation

Definition: pertaining to the next generation in a family; also, pertaining to the next stage of development or version of a product, service, or technology

The Wii-U by definition is Next-Generation as it is a progression of the previous product. I think people need to learn to use words correctly. I'm tired of hearing this.

The system has only been out for a few months. For crying out loud, gamers who decry the Wii U as a flop haven't even given it a chance. It's like when people thought that when Obama took office that he would magically fix the economy in four years.

Reality check: life doesn't work like that! Obama nor anyone else couldn't fix the economy in that kind of time span as much as the Wii U couldn't be getting numerous supposed core games in three months that people are whining over. EA should be one to talk considering that last year wasn't exactly their best year. Medal of Honor: Warfighter anyone? Worst Company in America ring any bells?

And we are actually in the eighth generation. The Nintendo 3DS, Playstation Vita, and Wii U are part of that. The Xbox 720 and Playstation 4 will be joining it soon, but the new generation is here. All EA has to do is get their ego in check and realize that not everything they shelve out is gold when it really is anything but.

Well then let's see what a "next gen system" will actually look like.

I agree with EA, it not!

Its got crap specs, its over priced, and has no games!

Define "Next Gen". Does it have to be raw horsepower?

look at any of the rumored PS4 and 720 specs and accounts from people working with the dev kits (like EA is doing). the PS4 and 720 utterly trounce the wii u.

there is no denying it at this point. the wii u's only hope was that the next xbox and playstation consoles would be just as underpowered as the wii u. and they are not. this was not difficult to predict, for anyone whose brain wasn't pickled in fanboyism.

of course, even now, as the evidence is piled to the size of Mount Everest, nintendo fanboys still thumb down any comments who point it out. because they are in pure, unmitigated denial.

bwahhhhh hahahah and here comes the damage control group lead by metroid 32 and Kingofwiiu. Stop it!!!! No one takes you guys seriously or believes what you say. Your the only ones that dont realize that.

xenoblade? hahahahaha again hyping up games before their released like you did with zombi u, how did that turn out? Yeah that had next gen graphics for sure!! lol Please all they showed you was an open, empty world and a guy running around. Nothing impressive sorry to say. Although it looked good nothing i saw spoke next gen. Ps3 or xbox have better looking games that have been out but when its all said and done ill let the professionals say so.

Don't care what generation it is.
I want to play the games I love on the only platform they will be on. If developers cant think outside MORE HORSE POWER and a simple controller, then they lack imagination.
Just tells me we are in for a world of FPS all over again in the next gen.
Wii U represents something new and bold and I'm on board with that.
Its the very essence of what games used to be.

This is new and bold and def innovative and not stagnant like some companies are with their ips and plumbers

1) Heavy Rain
2)Beyond
3)Lbp and Lbp vita
4)Tear away
5)Puppeteer
6) Starhawk (build and battle)
7) Jouney (new type of mp exp)

i have more games i can mention if youd like and from what is een on that list none were fps games hmmmm interesting. Innovation and evolution does not simply go hand and hand with hardware. In my book if your lacking in software innovation dont bother.

They' re just angry that Nintendo didn't want to make its' online servic Origin like EA wanted.

WHY is ANYTHING even remotely feeding into this BS after the Monolith Trailer? LMAO

1. That trailer CLEARLY proved Wii U IS next Gen
2. This is not even what EA actually said! LOL

Cool, one more reason to boycott EA games.
Started boycotting Fifa and some other games from EA due online passes.
Buying EA games used only, so EA is the looser here, not me:-)
And my Wiiu will mostly be used for exclusive games anyway.

Riddle me this, What is a next gen console?

Is it just based on power? if it is then it's more powerful then the current gen.

Is it innovation? It does that

I don't get the cries. Sony and MS with all their specs will not push graphics but performance in their next machine.

Whatever happened to just enjoying gaming?

So I just wanna put this math out here so I can figure out where the line is being drawn to be considered next-gen. According to the rumored specs, Sony makes PS4 4.5x the power of PS3 and Microsoft makes 720 5x the power of the 360 and these next consoles will be considered next-gen by all. But Nintendo makes the WiiU 2.5x the power of the 360 and somehow it just doesn't make the cut for some reason...(The most unknown factor is that even with the WiiU on store shelves, no one really knows exactly what the specs of this thing are. We are using guesstimates that the gpu is in fact based on the e6760/but a custom version. even the PS4&720 specs are just rumors at this point, but do have a ring of legitimacy to them.)

I think everyone knows this accept Nintendo fans. The Wii u is HD. Sony and M$ already have HD consoles.

these nintendo fanboys are in denial that the wiiu will be on par with ps4 or nextbox have fun with the same old ips for the last 20 years with no 3rd party support! haha nintendo messed up by being so far behind!

you people need to get a life.

Lol, my 12 year old brother bought a Wii U. He doesn't even use the touchscreen, he uses a Wii mote. FAIL Nintendo.

Wii U's 3rd party support will be ASS this time next year. . THeyre going to have to rely on the first party games to get them through and honestly the casual market just isnt what it used to be. Sorry Big N..I hope you got a CRAPTON of first party surprises because it seems like youre first to a party that you are not properly dressed for.

This has gone on long enough. The term "next gen" is so misunderstood. It doesn't mean it has the best of everything. It just meant the next one. People who complain about the Wii U's specs have missed the point, just like they missed the point with the Wii. It was never meant to have super high end specs, it was meant to be different. I have a Wii and a Wii U, but I also have a 360 and PS3. They all offer different games and experiences. I wouldn't trade any of them for anything. Yes, I will admit that the Wii U doesn't have the best graphics available, but the games that I have are fun and the system is a blast to play. I'll probably get the next Xbox and PS and they will be fun too. To arbitrarily ignore an entire area of gaming because it doesn't fit your criteria is silly. There is no reason to argue about it. If you don't want to play it then don't play it, but why waste your time trying to convince others, who are having fun, that it's terrible?

It's been clear from the start that the WiiU isn't really next gen. As soon as Nintendo started to say, "It has 2 GB RAM... But half of that is used by our OS..." everybody should've known what was coming.

If your OS by itself is eating up that much you've already got issues. I mean come on people. The portable PS Vita has 512 MB overall with the OS being a tiny footprint on its overall use. That's HALF of what is useable in the WiiU with a handheld.

EA everyone knows that Nintendo didnt agree on helping you with your ORIGIN-world-domination-agenda and refused to make it the download system for WiiU

SO STFU already and do a THQ!

Seriously why did THQ have to go and EA is still around? How unfair....

what is 'next gen' is not defined by the consoles graphical capability.

how come most dont understands that?

plus, ea are one to talk about the concept of next gen, they put out almost identical fifa games each year and try to pass them off as 'next gen' fifa titles.

ea should look in the mirror

People just need to except that each developer/publishers have their own internal concept of what a "next-gen" is. So debating the term is pointless.

What is interesting though is that this implies that the ps3/720 will be a huge leap above the Wii U. Something which sounds obvious but a lot of people have been saying that they expect the new systems to only be marginly more powerful. Similar to dreamcast vs ps2.

Umm... yes it is. Can a PS3, XBOX360, or Wii stream a console games to the palm of your hand 8 meters away from the console with 1/60th of a second latency? No, as a matter of fact they can't. Why don't you make a console then EA? Graphics of a console do not signify "next-gen" if that's what they think. The Wii U has a standard wireless controller that lasts up to 80 hours! That's insane! Nintendo has always defended themselves and I don't see them backing down. Just brush that dirt right off your shoulder Nintendo... and by brush I mean fling!

Not in the slightest, it's very much a "this gen" console.

the wiiu is nintendos vision of next gen but for people like me that like games that use powerful hardware to handle a game with great graphics and physics, for the Nintendo fanboys saying "oh the wiiu cab do Things already 360/ps3 can't do? well I hope so for systems that were out since 05-06 I hope the wiiu can atleast be on par with the 360/ps3! but look at ms and sony first partytitles way ahead of wiiu but other nintendo fan boys saying the wiiu is going to be more powerful than the new systems comibg out? yeah right nintendo was way behing last gen and I bet they will repeate last gen this gen and for people that are "happy" with just wiiu and are sticking with it are going to be sad when the real next gen counsles come out because nintendo isn't going to have any 3rd party support ! crytek jumped ship and I have also heard nintendo fan boys say you only need mario and zelda but you will get bord with no games to play! lol and having 1 controller that costs 180 bucks is a joke same with no dvd player what a truly "next" gen counsle ninty fan boys need to stop being in denial and admit nintendo screwed the pooch on this joke of a system!

This happens with literally every Nintendo console launch since Wii. Everybody who doesn't see eye candy and specs just dogs it out and it's quite immature and ignorant. Gone are the days when gamers played games for fun. Now they just play the same ole' thing with better graphics.

The reason why Nintendo consoles are immediately ruled out upon announcement is because Nintendo has always dared to be different. They could have easily hooked you up with the next gen specs because they have the money baby, believe me they've got the money. Nintendo just likes to be different and people in the US usually don't like different until they've been exposed to it. Remember Zelda for Gamecube and how everybody ruled it out because of how it looked!? How stupid! And the game was better than Ocarina of Time!

I don't think the Wii was next gen in graphics or specs and it mopped the floor with Xbox360 and PS3. And if you think that The PS4 and 720 or whatever will have a better launch... think again and again because they will most likely cost double the Wii U.

Nintendo get so much hate is unbelievable yea the Wii u is not a huge leap graphics wise compare to the PS3 and Xbox 360 but that still don't change the fact that the Wii u is next gen