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Next-Gen: Why Sony Should Wait on Microsoft

Sony says they are going to wait until Microsoft announces the next Xbox to show off the PS4, but is that really a good idea? Joshua Mobley of VGU.TV thinks so.

StrongMan4895d ago

Well written article. Sony is in the driver seat now and next gen.

konnerbllb4895d ago

Xbox has sold more than PS3 to date, have you read the article? Sure PS3 has shipped 1 mil more, but MS has more consoles sold. Shipped ≠ Sold

Also if they were in the drivers seat they wouldn't be waiting for MS to go first. Sounds like they are riding shotgun.

morkendo234895d ago

no one know what these companies are doing currently. remember this site ONLY report rumors
not official "FACTS" FROM SONY OR MICROSOFT.
far as im concern the gamers in the driver seat.
(buying power)

extermin8or4895d ago

Nah Sony have actually said they don't want to announce any details till after Microsoft has; they said they don't want to risk the competitor making last min changes to ensure they aren't left behind in technologically etc. I think it stems back to when Sony annonced the CEL etc for the ps3 last gen Microsoft went to IMB and used the SPu design of the CELL in their design, only like 3 of them and in a different structure etc but it still pissed sony off apparently at the time. Fair enough if they don't want to risk it; if they come out the gate with something really new and innovative and powerful then it might make sense why they didn't want their competitors to know till it was too late- downside is tat you have less time between announcement and release for the hype train to gain as much momentum as possible

blackbeld4895d ago

"Currently Microsoft has sold 74.25 million consoles worldwide while Sony has sold 72.49 PlayStation 3 consoles worldwide. Sony did however just out ship the Xbox 360 worldwide, totaling 77 million units shipped opposed to Microsoft’s 76 million units."

Must be a BIG PILL for 360 fanboys.

Microsoft back to 3e place again!

MaxXAttaxX4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

The reason why 360 sold more (at first), was because it launched 1 year before the PS3. Plain and simple.

"Shipped ≠ Sold" True, but you also sound desperate.
It shipped more because it sells more. The fact that the PS3 has cut the 360's initial 9 million lead down to nothing, is proof enough.

Also, Sony and Microsoft are in two different cars. Sony is simply being smart. It may not be much, but there's a slight strategic element to their decision.

Army_of_Darkness4895d ago

Besides the given 4K support and blu-ray, I wonder what else sony has up their sleeves for the ps4??

kneon4895d ago

Sigh.. once again manufacturers don't track when consumer electronics are sold to the end customer, they are considered sold when they are sold to a retailer or distributor.

And even if you refuse to believe that, no retailer keeps months of stock on hand, so even if you want to say the number is shipped rather than sold then in a couple of weeks that shipped number will be the sold number.

MikeMyers4895d ago

"Sony is in the driver seat now and next gen."

Sorry to burst your avatar but no they are not in the driver seat. In fact nobody is. The days of the PS2 dominating the field are long gone. In fact the playing field has changed since then. Game publishers are driven by sales and we now have a much broader market of potential customers. It's no longer aimed at just the hardcore gamer. So while the Wii started off strong it has in recent years started to fizzle. That doesn't mean the more casual gamer is gone from the equation.

Look, no matter how many exclusives Sony provides for your enjoyment they still don't control the market. In fact it's anyone's guess how the next gen will unfold. There are reasons why it may be beneficial for Sony to wait. They still have the PS3 to push and Vita to market. They are also not as financially stable to keep releasing new products. Lastly and more importantly is the Xbox 360 is more dated than the PS3 so it is Microsoft who should flinch first anyways.

ShinMaster4894d ago

Xbox 360 has also sold more... to the same people lol

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EddieNX 4895d ago

Sorry but from a Neutral Nintendo point of view , Sony is not in the driving seat for many reasons.

A- They are in a horrible shape financialy and can' afford to take any risks and now have the Vita looming over their shoulders
B- Nintendo Have the big popular first party IP and it's hard for Sony to compete with them on that front look at PSABR and PS move for example
C- Microsoft is the hottest thing in USA right now with Developers prioritising development for the xbox and not the playstation.

All American third party support in the 8th gen is once again going to be more optimized on the next Xbox.

Sony is still awesome , but in the driving seat ? definitely not.

Ezz20134895d ago

*Nintendo Have the big popular first party IP and it's hard for Sony to compete with them on that front look at PSABR and PS move for example *

stopped reading right there

Knight_Crawler4895d ago

I think next gen both MS and Sony have to being some totally diffrent from each othet to the table.

This gen software and console features were almost the same on the PS3 and 360.

Online: both had it one was free the other was lsighlty better.

Achivements and Trophies - samething diffrent name.

Games: Sony had more exclusive but gamers spoke with there wallets and multiplats like Call of Duty abd GTA are king.

Gimmick for the casuals: Move and Kinect

Apps: both conso;es have them.

I can not think of more right now but my point was that Sony nor MS offered soemthing drasticlly diffrent from each other to say OMG I want the PS3 over the 360 or vice versa.

Skype intergrated well on the xbox is one feature that will set the 720 apart from the PS4.

and Gaikai intergrated well on the PS4 will do the same for Sony.

nukeitall4894d ago

Technically the Xbox 360 differentiate itself pretty well from the PS3, with a well developed online network (with cross game chat and later party chat among other things), achievements first and Kinect.

Kinect might have been fueled by Nintendo's motion control, but none the less it is a huge differentiating factor from Nintendo compared to PS Move.

Sony this entire generation spent their time copying the competition while MS and Nintendo led in their own way.

This just seems like a repeat of that.

jmac534894d ago

@extermin8or
There is not much Sony or Microsoft could change in regards to specs to counter the competition if we are talking even a couple months. It would cost millions upon millions just to change one component and that's not even mentioning the R&D. Sony can't afford that right now and they are just posturing. Microsoft is in the better position to do that right now.

rainslacker4894d ago (Edited 4894d ago )

In theory they could

-change the amount or speed of memory
-offer a feature not thought of initially instead of adding it in later.
-increase the clock speed of the CPU or possibly upgrade it to another one within the same class and pin structure(like PC CPU's are capable of doing)
-increase the hard drive size
-increase the read speed of the Blu-ray
-add an additional service for free they first sought to monetize
-change the initial asking price
-increase the clock speed or use a better GPU in the same class as their currently designed one...similar to CPU above.
-or decide they have to change nothing

Not everything means a major redesign of the system, and I think his comment was more about having to see what the competition was offering before reacting to it.

Granted...what they have hardware wise is probably what we're going to get at this late stage. Only change would be if the PS3 is significantly less powerful than the 720. However, I'm pretty confident that both companies know what the other is going to offer already...or at least close to it. They have really good researchers, and buy tech off each other which could give them a decent idea of what is to be.

user39158004894d ago

Well written? Lol.. The article was based on a bias stand of a myth, with the lack of foundation, facts, and superstitions of a view. Not even analyst dare to sugest what will be the right move. Im a Sony suporter and even I can tell he was incoherent and looking for hits. I see it as is, the more they wait the less sales they have during that period, does not takes a genius to know that in order for you to sale a product it has to be in the market. The sooner MSD its out in the market the faster they will earned more gamers that can only afford 1 console, its a fact temptation will be there. Waiting for someone else to show its not a positive thing, it only shows incompetenced and lack of security in your own products. Less powerfull console does not equal less sales. I support sony for their gaming knowledge of producing rich content of new exciting gaming titles, not for their waiting on their rears, to see what their competitor does. Mark this day, Sony and MS will be so similar to each other this gen, that the transfer will be nearly identical, they both have 8 core cpu from the same company, if rumors are to be believe ram are the same, sony with 5gb ddr5 and ms with 8 ddr 3. ddr 5 runs 2x faster but does not carry as much, DDR5 is like having 1x ddr5 = 2ddr3. They are so similar that by comparison the main thing making the changes will occur with the GPU and how much edram will be used on the system. Either way, I dont care, cause to run most pc games its almost always been less than 4, meaning the consoles will be able to do what they can in a better scale, since they are for gaming. I hate rumors, but its all one can do till the facts comes out lol... And the articke was garbage in my own opinion, just more flamebait, for those that wants to argue and establish an escape to the virtual BS of gaming.

Sucitta4894d ago

your wall of text had me gag.. please stop.

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Irishguy954895d ago

They should wait so they can attempt to Copy the 360's impressive System Software..again.

Prodigy-X4895d ago

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what impressive system software. You mean those two generic shooters.

Prodigy-X4895d ago (Edited 4895d ago )

My bad. You talking about their bad Operating System.

NukaCola4895d ago

I remember when LIVE used to be those blades aka 6 pages of boring text. But MS ripped of Nintendo's Miis and Sony's XMB and created the NXE. Now it's I don't know what..

SandWitch4895d ago

Yeah, Sony should copy those impressive ads

kayoss4895d ago

Copy? Name me one thing that ps3 copied the Xbox 360?
1. Ps3 had wifi at launch built in. Xbox didn't you have to buy it.
2. Ps3 you could upgrade with any compatible hardrive at launch. Xbox you have to buy microsoft hard drives.
3. Ps3 you can use third party peripherials. Xbox you have to use licensed peripherials.
4. Ps3 had bluray. Xbox had DVD.
5. Ps3 had hdmi at launch. Xbox don't.
6. Ps3 was more powerful then the Xbox.
7. Xbox have impressive software I agree but the first two years. But after that Sony had more impressive exclusives and software.
I own both consoles but your comment make you an immature dumbass.

DOMination-4894d ago

He's talking about the operating system. I guess he meant in game xmb and trophies. Can't think of much more though.

extermin8or4895d ago

O_o sorry the OS was not great on the xbox, whereas the XMB has won several design awards and awards for just generally being awesome :p It may feel old now but it's still very practical and usable and looks nice- also it's served the ps3 well over it's lifetime with new stuff being able to be easily added without making it feel really confused or cluttered...

Daoshai4895d ago

To say the ps3 OS is better than the xboxs is just plain silly. Even you diehard fanboys honestly know Microsoft's is better, that's what they do.

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PS4isKing_824895d ago

I personally feel that Sony is in a better position lately. Their stock is beginning to go back up recently and Kaz is doing a great job bringing them back.

Plus they won't make the same mistake like they did with the ps3.

PS4 will be plenty capable i'm sure but also much more affordable as well like the ps2 was.

Sony will absolutely have an incredible launch planned for ps4.

So them waiting again tells me they have a plan and they're confident in it.

Otherwise they wouldn't choose to go last again.

TheOneEyedHound4895d ago

To me the only reasons they won't launch it first, either they got something big that they don't want M$ to copy, or they are not confident in their product, and will wait for M$ to release it to upgrade it better than the NEXTBOX.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio53d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing53d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9253d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit53d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing53d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9253d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted55d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8555d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele55d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk54d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay54d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10155d ago (Edited 55d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit54d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg54d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10154d ago (Edited 54d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14955d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay54d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn255d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn254d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown55d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay54d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay54d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac54d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger55d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300055d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde55d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood55d ago (Edited 55d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde54d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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