Think the point is while Enslaved was likely the best they could do, what they've done isn't the best in the industry. Not up to standards once set by games like DMC. While DmC might sell well, its going to set the industry back, not forwards. Lower standards.

As for Capcom, what's happened Street Fighter with DLC before hand, Megaman besides, all but says they're circling the bowl as a great developer.

@ WolfLeBlack - "Gamers are always complainging that companies aren't willing to take a big risk with their established franchises these days."

I don't entirely agree with you. Nobody wants a stagnant franchise but, if anything, gamers are always complaining that companies aren't willing to take risks BEYOND their established franchises, so we get sequel after sequel after sequel... We don't get many new IPs these days, which is exactly what this game should have been.

Enslaved was a good game, but incredibly short. It took me 10 hours to get the platinum trophy.

This is a problem with Ninja theory, their games are way too short.

DmC doesn't feel like a bad game, it just shouldn't be called or make any reference to the original series.

To everyone...

Tameem said this project was to prove that games can have the same kind of writing seen in classic literature and praised movies. What part of what been seen in this script seems like it could stand with those?

Yeah, DMC has never had the best writing, but it was never trying to stand up with the best of the best.

And Ninja Theory has always hired writers to "fix" theirs scrips Tameem wrote up, except in DmC's case... They wanted to try on their own, and look how much worse this compares with HS.

This does not give it a mature element. It comes off a juvenile. What is a "Disgusting f**k child" while does Dante keep repeating lines said to him? It makes no sense at all.

It comes across as needless, much like the sex scene, what point did that have in the game? What does that even add to the plot? NOTHING, it was added in an attempt to be more "gritty and dark" but all it did was seem needless and childish. Almost like they added just to say "See we have a sex scene, it's mature."

@LOGICWINS

When you are naming the reboot after the main series, it is inevitable to see comparisons, its very hard not to compare (it happens in all media, TV shows, movies and video games), they are basically asking for people to compare DMC with DmC (Ninja Theory themselves compare them while insulting fans, the series, and the creators of the series), which is why this should have been a completely new IP it would of been more of a win win for everyone. While judging the game on its own merits and treating it as a new IP sure it may be a decent-really good game, but as a Devil May Cry it already drops down below good despite not have playing the game yet, but having played the demo, seeing all the preview demo videos, reading all the previews, seeing all the trailers and behind the scenes videos etc. those are meant to "buy" the consumer, to convince them that the game is going to be a great and worthy product available for purchase, its to help people make up their mind if they should get it or not, so I feel I am able to judge the game based off those things, because that is why they provided those things to begin with, for people to make the judgement and determine if they want it or not, me personally (as you have stated your own opinion) I do not want the game, never plan on getting as it doesn't appeal to me in anyway, as a new game (very unappealing unlikeable characters and story, plus the execcisve curisng can ruin a game, ex Killzone 2 could have done better without cursing as much, fixed in Killzone 3) or as a DMC (probably because it is a western hack and slash game of a japanese franchise in the same way Ninja Gaiden 3 was and it was not great). I really hate how this seems to try and replace DMC instead becoming a spin off (similar to Resident Evil O.R.C was not Resident Evil 6, even though 6 became even more of an action game anyway) because now it doesnt seem as if DMC 5 is ever going to come with the way the are treating DmC, and if DmC succeeds they will continue that, if it fails they will conclude no one wants anything DMC related anymore and probably stop it altogether.

Now, I find it funny how you say you will judge the game on its own merits, then right after compare the voice acting of DmC to all past DMC games.

@LOGICWINS continued

Then, as you said "A person would have to be deaf, delusional, or a combination of both to tell me that THIS voicework/script ... sounds more natural than this voicework/script" you can say the same thing when comparing the gameplay and functions, seeing the second video showed everything that was awesome about DMC in that one video, the cool characters, the crazy action, the great style ranking meter, the lock on function, the flashy cool guns that usefully deal damage, the music and art direction and the fast fluid combat with style (even though the player in the vid was not the greatest, but he wasnt bad) Voice acting and dialouge was not he main focus of the game, it was fun, style, action and gameplay, not it seems to have flipped for DmC, they focused more on voice acting, dialouge (as of now doesnt look like they did that great) storytelling and making it more relatable (western thing) as well as putting their touch on it by making it more like Heavenly Sword. Also the writing doesnt seem to make it more mature, seems ironically more immature with all the cursing, this seems like a game targeted for western teens. A game with mature dialouge would be the Metal Gear Series, as for the demons, where is there rules for what demons are supposed to be like? Thats like saying all humans are supposed to be joyful and generous.

So to end this, to avoid comparison they should have not compared them or give it the same name as something else, would of been better for everyone and they seem to be making this game with the mindset of creating and gaining new fans for the series as opposed to making a game for fans of DMC.

^^Comparing the demo to DMC 3, YES, the gameplay is "faster" in terms of combat. I can't say whether or not that makes it better, its just different. I can enjoy fast paced hack n slash games like Bayonetta just as much as slow paced hack an slash games like GOW.

The new DMC will be paced more like GOW's combat, which is fine with me. In the full game, I suspect the game will open up as you gain more weapons and abilities..thus allowing you to chain multiple weapons in one combo like in that DMC3 vid.

yeah about the nephilim thing, just like the horsemen from darksiders which are also nephilim they look far from human and are giants, and in the nephilim myths they are giant disfigured creatures, yet new Dante looks completly normal, that makes no sense at all.