VGCharts? Really?

zeeshan said it. i agree with it.

Where are the US market numbers? The US market is the largest gaming market on the planet. I'm interested in what that one.

USA Weekly Chart Ending Dec22 2012

Hardware
X360 501,426 (+7%) 38,649,638
PS3 257,686 (+9%) 23,718,069

Software
X360 5,641,581 (+14%) 415,526,891
Wii 3,617,465 (+16%) 416,475,024
PS3 3,022,882 (+7%) 255,099,204

I was thinking the same thing.

Because it is in Europe they say PS3 is just over 100k over the 360 wile in the U.S its over 200k and then comes Sony and Microsoft official end of the year and vgc numbers are not even close to Microsoft or Sony numbers.They NEVER FIX THEIR NUMBERS TO REFLECT THE OFFICIAL NUMBERS FROM S OR M

Ummm..... we DO say they are made up. You are just rushing things by saying we don't based on ONE comment. That's just sad man....

"No one wants to say it but congrats to Activison for making Call of Duty the 360 and PS3 most played game."

And congrats to them for making the biggest over hyped and overrated franchise of all time.

i agree that Call Of Duty is the same crap over and over again every year.

but the reason this game sells is the MP and there is no other game, and i repeat no other game that has the same fast paced Shooter feeling to it, with 60FPS

that is the truth and we have to deal with it!

You mean there is no other game where the main character feels like he is floating, all while covered in vaseline with a gun that weights like a feather?

You got that right.

Oh, no! Nuance! Instant bubble down.

vgchartes numbers are wrong

i said this in another topic 18days ago replaying to someone who said this :
******this gen according to vgchartz 360 has 72.3 million units while ps3 has 70.3 million units.****

and that's my comment
*******you lost every credibility when talked about numbers from vgchartes

from both sony and ms :.
PS3 hits 70m to go neck-and-neck with Xbox 360
http://www.computerandvideo...

by vgchartes logic (if they had any)
since they tied in sales
ps3 didn't sell one single console
while xbox sold 3m world wide ?!lol WTF is going on in that site

if there is any one can believe vgchartes ... then he's just a tool or dumb

should i trust Vgchartes
or
should i trust the owners them self ?!
hmmmmmmmm... tough question;) **********

The reason for that discrepancy is that when Sony and Microsoft release their shipped numbers, VGChartz then has to estimate how many of those shipped consoles sell through the month.

Perhaps some people aren't 'tools or just dumb' but rather 'balanced and logical'.

I'm a Sony fan just like you but there is no way in hell that the PS3 is now level with the 360 -- let alone, ahead. Fans on both sides get suckered by the shipped numbers, and it needs to stop if we are to have any semblance of intelligent discourse on the subject of console sales.

A lesson on the difference between heated debate and childish arguing wouldn't go amiss.

You keep saying "wait for the real numbers" but what are you counting as "real" numbers?

MS and Sony don't release "real" numbers, they release (like you said) shipped numbers. So what numbers are you expecting?

Do you want shipped to retailers or do you want sold to customers?

Stop getting the 2 mixed up. Shipped numbers means nothing. MS or Sony could ship 60 million units but that doesn't mean they have a 60 million install base for that console.

What matters is the install base of each console. Those numbers are only produced when a console is sold to the general public at retail. Those are the difficult numbers to track because many outlets in other countries don't have an overall tracking solution.

To all the people that say "wait for the real numbers" or "VGChartz are fake numbers" please indicate WHAT numbers you want because you guys seem to confuse MS and Sony's SHIPPED numbers for SOLD @ RETAIL TO CUSTOMER numbers.

@lvl_up_gamer,

The retailers are not buying consoles that do not sell. Shipped numbers are consoles sold, by Microsoft or Sony to retailers, Walmart, Best Buy and Amazon.

If Sony shipped an errant 50k consoles to Walmart that they did not want, I assure you that Walmart would refuse the shipment.

VGChartz has never detailed how they come up with their numberz. They have indicated that they call retailers and simply ask them, but retailers generally don't do that. Generally they keep inventory information private, because their competitors would use that information to gauge their own inventory requirements.

VGChartz is what it is... They post provocative articles, then intensely sell advertising on their webpage.

The worst thing they do is retroactively change their numberz in order to hide their mistakes which are pretty routinely 20% off of actual sales.

It was a guy named "The Source" who invented this idea of "channel stuffing" to explain why their numberz are continuously inaccurate. But once again... the retailers dictate how many consoles they get shipped, not the wholesalers.