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Agni’s Philosophy Tech Demo

STFUandPLAY's Romudeth writes:

Remember that Final Fantasy tech demo from E3? Agni’s Philosophy showed us what we can expect from the next Final Fantasy game and it was impressive to say the least. I didn’t really have the game on my mind until Tor sent me this link.

The video is a demo showing off the different things that can be done on the fly to the main character.

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Godmars2904903d ago (Edited 4903d ago )

Square, stop thinking and talking about aesthetics and get back to mechanics. Story plot and characters. Please.

Nemesis45674903d ago

Well said!! Story plot and characters was one of the main things that made Final Fantasy enjoyable. Good Graphics can only take you so far.

osamaq4903d ago

its not 100% that microsoft or sony will reveal there consoles in e3 2013 ,,,

nothing for we don't know, last year they expected to be revealed but nothing happened

so nothing is for sure...

TheOneWhoIsTornApart4903d ago (Edited 4903d ago )

Why cant we have both incredible graphics and also story, gameplay, and characters etc? One of my favorite things about Final Fantasy games besides everything I just listed was the art and if we can have a powerful gaming engine that enhances the art and beauty than I am absolutley down for this attention to the graphics engine

wishingW3L4903d ago (Edited 4903d ago )

because Square clearly can't handle both. They focus so much in graphics that we end up with weak games like FF13 with no content or an awfully bad written stories that makes no sense like FF13-2. And that's without mentioning the incredibly bad characters. =/

Square doesn't has the skills to make huge worlds like in the old games while maintaining the graphic quality they want to achieve, so they end up cutting lots of corners just to offer better graphics to the graphicwhores. Like if their games were ever just about that... Better graphics only gave us a game that was just a corridor with monsters and then for the sequel they gave us Megaman (a bunch of different maps where you chose where to go first but is all disjointed and just as linear).

Godmars2904903d ago (Edited 4903d ago )

Once upon a time we did. From FF4 to FF10 at least. Those game presented worlds with some level of interaction and even character. FF12 did as well, had cities you could literally walk though, but still failed in the basics of having people with an airship who *walked* everywhere.

And then FF13 utterly failed. Was nothing but a well decorated setting you walked through.

The short of the matter is I want vehicles to make a comeback. To be introduced to characters who I'll get to see and make grow and develop as people, not just a collection of stats in the guise of archetypes going through motions. That's where FF12 mostly and FF13 fully failed.

@Menchi:
What has Square done in recent history to even suggest that they still have an understanding of the importance of character story or especially game mechanics?

No, its only been about graphics from their presented POV. They've even outright lied about how the 360 version of the game looked. Repeatedly had advertising "mix-ups" between pics and video.

Menchi4903d ago

Normally, I'd agree with you, but this is a tech demo, as in, they show you what their graphical engine can do, not what there story is going to be or what the a certain game would play like.

xtreampro4903d ago

Why are all your comments stupid?

Ddouble4903d ago

Why should they stop thinking about aesthetics. Isn't that one of things FF games are known for.

Why do you think people were hyped for Versus the moment they laid eyes on it in 2006? They didn't see the gameplay or know anything about the story back then. The anticipation hasn't changed and now that we've seen gameplay it makes the wait even more unbearable because it looked very good.

That is what FF games are all about, great graphics, story, characters, plot etc. They excel in all areas. One should not be compromised for the other.

It's fine to complain about the story and mechanics but what does that have to do with a tech demo? This is meant to show that next gen games will look the part.

Godmars2904903d ago

They should stop making it the central focus. They found a balance with FF4 thru FF6, but almost after that the scales started to tip the wrong way. My point is that out of story, characters, game and aesthetics one has severely compromised the others.

How the hell do you actively point out the worth of such yet still don't understand?

AsheXII4903d ago

Can we stop spouting sensationalist things that have nothing to do with the article in order to gather popularity as some sort of communist state?

This is a technical marvel, the article is about technical specifications. Why can't people be happy with the possibilities.

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Yangus4903d ago

This visuals amazing.
I wait next-gen Final Fantasy.

Hellsvacancy4903d ago

Im still waiting for a current gen FF game

Spacemagic4903d ago

Turn based battles and sprites plz

I_am_Batman4903d ago

How about playing FF1-6? These games are still there you know.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay21d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn222d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn221d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown21d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay21d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay21d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac21d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger22d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300022d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde22d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde21d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Top Racers Need Top Gear – Introducing the Forza Horizon 6 Limited Edition Controller and Headset

Omar writes: "With the Horizon Festival coming to breathtaking Japan, you’ll need the essential gear to prove you’ve got what it takes to become a Horizon Legend as you cruise, drift and explore an open world full of spectacular driving experiences. That’s why we’re happy to announce the newest Limited Edition Xbox Wireless Controller and Wireless Headset collection, featuring inspired designs from Forza Horizon 6. The bright cyan and lime colorways celebrate the Horizon Festival’s recognition of iconic cars and hit music, with special features that are sure to impress any collector."

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Killer2020UK28d ago

Oh my, that is one gaudy design

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EasySMX D05 review

You can get Hall effect controllers slightly cheaper, but you'd struggle to find as feature-rich a package without some heavy, heavy sales.