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Analysis: What we learned from the Wii U launch

Nintendo's Wii U has been in the wild for just a few days but that hasn't stopped Kayla Bourque from running the rule over how the launch went.

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-Mika-4930d ago

Take your time creating an OS instead of rushing it.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4930d ago (Edited 4930d ago )

Make your cpu faster than 6-7 year old competition.

Also Happy Thanksgiving..

Computersaysno4930d ago (Edited 4930d ago )

Don't charge more for your new machine that offers no killer apps, no better graphics, inferior online and less media hub functionality compared to your competitors.

Really it was Sony that learnt this, this generation with PS3. They managed to fix that but it took a bunch of time, it didn't happen overnight. Time that Wii U might not have.

At the moment I fail to see any reason someone other than Nintendo enthusiasts would trade up or choose Wii U over 360 or PS3.

That may not change in the next 12 months, which could be bad news when the 140m PS3/360 owners look to move on as the expected Microsoft/Sony replacements are announced..

Even if Wii owners look to upgrade so to speak AFTER the next gen machines launch, maybe they have a younger audience growing into their teens. What might make them buy a Wii U for more money instead of a PS3/360 which will no doubt be extremely cheap by then?

Nintendo have to find answers to these type of questions.

guitarded774930d ago

@ Computersaysno (Nice username by the way)

"At the moment I fail to see any reason someone other than Nintendo enthusiasts would trade up or choose Wii U over 360 or PS3."

I think with most early adopters it's not a matter of picking one over the other. Most of the people I have met on Miiverse are multi-console games.

One thing I really wish Nintendo had done is have a trophy/achievement system. Miiverse is a perfect place for such a feature. I also wish Nintendo would stop being Nazis in censoring Miiverse. I posted a simple drawing of an alarm bell and text which said "zombie dinner bell". My post was removed and I received a "warning" about posting spoilers. My post was akin to drawing a block with a question mark on it and saying "coins" in a Mario thread. It really turned me off to see how crazy they are being.

jmc88884929d ago

Says who?

Oh I know what you've read, but the facts are, the people that said those things were talking out of their butt more than Ace Ventura.

You put too much weight into 'title' and not enough into 'facts'.

A killer app is also different for each person. What I do know is that if you add up the # of copies sold of Halo: Combat evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST, Halo Reach, and Halo 4.....you would basically equal what Mario Kart Wii sold.

I never owned a Wii, but I did own almost all of those Halo games.

People are seeing what they want to see. Anyone who has played the versions in real life is saying the Wii U version of PORTS is crisper and better. Not by much, so the whole 'not much better graphics' things is overblown.

Inferior online and media hub functionality? Um not really.

You could choose Wii U over replacing a working...but not so well 360. Save your 360 titles to run on a 720 and play them on a wonky 360 until then.

If someone didn't have a 360, while the current library of games is big, you can't buy many of those new. You also won't get much support gamewise in a few years. Wii U will have an additional 3-5 years of games coming out for it.

Everyone that codes for the Wii U loves it. The negative dev comments are coming from people that HAVEN'T coded for it.

The first real test will be Aliens: Colonial Marines. There will be better ones later, but that's the first test of a multiplatform game that is getting a lot of care for the Wii U version.

That dev is already on record of saying it's the best version....and "trust him". We'll see. But I'd rather take someone who is working on the console rather than someone coding for high end PC games that don't even run good on most of the top PC graphics cards. (to them a Lamborghini isn't fast enough)

People will do what they want or what they think, but reality is irrespective of anyone's wishes. Not mine. Not yours. Not anyone's.

I don't need to justify anything to myself, I have a great PC, and the Wii U's competitors, AND will be getting a PS4 and 720. But people are basing the opinion of the Wii U based on really faulty sources.

Rudimentary tear downs
Developers who haven't worked on the system (and focus on top end PC development)
Launch games
Launch games that are also ports

These factors can greatly alter perception, because that's all we have, things that altering perception, nothing that is showcasing reality.

Some people can see through this and hold judgement. Others don't care and will jump in based off of faulty and incomplete info.

Me I care really because showing people their methodology is wrong is important, because jumping the gun like this shows that it can happen in so many other areas of life where it's more important not to. It's better to learn the lesson in places it doesn't actually matter.

Lf_sIcKmAn4930d ago

Why is it that every single comment i read from you is always bashing or hating? How do you know they rushed it? Are you some oracle or do you enjoy your view from your high horse of perfection?

You know squat about either programming or designing, so you are in no position to talk… But I wont wish you anything bad… because i know that living in your mother's basement must be hard enough for the likes of you.

Nintendo has a beautiful product like they always do, and it may not be "SUPER COMPUTER LIKE" but it has the games many people want, including myself... so either enjoy it or get the hell out.

StraightedgeSES4930d ago (Edited 4930d ago )

I learned that people who think the Wii U is weaker than last gen consoles because of the slow CPU have no idea what they're talking about.

MEsoJD4930d ago

isn't the ram slower than 360/ps3? If I'm wrong please steer me in the right direction. Also If you have stats comparing the WII U cpu to 360/ps3 aswell.

Deku-Johnny4930d ago

@MEsoJD, the full speed of the RAM isn't currently known so there is no way of knowing if it slower all we know about the RAM is that it's 4x as big. We know the GPU is much better than last gen consoles but the CPU is a bit worse. If the RAM turns out to be faster developers could utilize the RAM and the GPU to bypass the problems with the CPU.

StraightedgeSES4930d ago (Edited 4930d ago )

@MEsoJD Look at it like this the Wii U is in the same position the PS3 was in People are underestimating the hardware.

jmc88884929d ago

We actually don't know that the CPU is worse.

We know that it may not have as much raw power, but it may have more actual power if coded for correctly.

Again, let's go back to the advent of dual cores and hyperthreading.

When those computers were pitted head to head against the fastest single cores, they lost.

But when tasked with software that utilized the 'hidden power' within the multiple cores and/or hyperthreading of the newer CPU's, the newer CPU's trounced the fastest single cores.

So this is what is also not being taken into account for the Wii U CPU. We suspect it doesn't have quite as much raw power (though even that is a guess), but what we really don't know is how much actual power there is when accounting for the extra threads the Wii U CPU is rumored to have...and again even that is a rumor. We simply don't know.

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Legend_Killer4930d ago

It's normal to have a few bugs. At least it's not as bad as the X360's red ring of death.... I think I just got something to be thankful for

Happy Thanksgiving

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Deku-Johnny4930d ago

I learned that there are a lot of Sony/MS fanboys on this site that like to bash Nintendo and quote misinformation to make the Wii U look worse than it actually is even on positive Wii U articles. It's seems these immature people can't accept that companies other than their favourite are capable of making good products.

BitbyDeath4930d ago

Now you know what Sony's had to deal with for the past 6 years.

Welcome!

krazykombatant4930d ago

Dealing for the past 6 years???? PS3 didn't have games for like the first 2 years that was it, and even then die hard ps3 fans will say they got plenty of stuff. This site is rammed to the rafters with ps3 and xbox fanboys.

krazykombatant4930d ago

Too many fanboys on this site, too damn scared and are already calling the wiiU a failure. As soon as smash gets released and hopefully a new metroid/zelda/mario all of this b.s will be pushed to the way side. Best bet is to not bother in trying to deal with the stubborn idiots, that don't have anything better to do but trash something they don't like.

josephayal4930d ago

What we learned from the Wii U launch?? Nothing

wiiulee4930d ago

we've learn nintendo has third party developers on board and have put together a great and unique system in the wiiu.....and that its already destine to be a success

Legend_Killer4930d ago

And also Patcher's analysis is unreliable

MasterCornholio4930d ago

Never buy a console at launch due to the issues it might have. Something goes for Microsoft and Sony.

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U.S. patent examiner rejects Nintendo’s summoning characters patent as obvious: non-final ruling

The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7752d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Nintendo Completes Share Repurchase and Sets Price for Secondary Offering

Nintendo completed its share repurchase and set its secondary offering price at 8,347 yen ahead of March 16 delivery.

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer77d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi76d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure76d ago (Edited 76d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer77d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot77d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box76d ago (Edited 76d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno77d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay77d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno75d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK76d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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