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Xbox 720 Upgradeable Design The Solution To PS4

product-reviews.net: No matter what you think about the Wii U you have to admire the way Nintendo are trying to innovate with their so-called next-generation console, so when it comes to the Xbox 720 and PS4 we hope that something truly innovative is delivered when we finally see the release date for these expected powerhouses. One way this can be done with the Xbox 720 is by making it upgradeable, and it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve heard this, although as we move closer to a launch it seems more possible considering the speed at which PC hardware is advancing and also looking back at Microsoft patents.

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shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4949d ago (Edited 4949d ago )

pc gaming for everyone!

Actually this would be better than pc imo if they offered say 3 tires of upgrades kits over time. Maybe every 3 1/2 years they would offer upgrade kits over the course of 11 years. That would give you more power and they could still do console optimization.

also this is not gonna happen.

Welshy4949d ago (Edited 4949d ago )

This idea totally defeats the purpose of console gaming in my opinion.

When i bought my 360 and PS3, i bought in the knowledge that from that day on. every single game released would perform as intended and equally with everyone else for the next 4-6 years.

If consoles start to to hardware upgrades, they would be nothing more than restricted PC's.

With a PC, you can upgrade anything, anytime you want, why would i shell out £300-400 on something knowing that not all games in the future will run fully? Or having to wait for Sony or Microsoft to tell me when and what i can upgrade.

If consoles become upgradable, they will have completely lost their purpose and identity not to mention a whole lot of sales (excluding uninformed buyers).

nukeitall4949d ago

There is a big difference between this approach and PC. The main one is the PC path is riddled with nasty incompatibilities and pretty poor overall user experience.

There is no reason this upgradeable console can't have games that are still backwards compatible with the Xbox you bought and at the same time compatible with the upgraded part.

That means the developers only have to test and optimize the game with two versions of the hardware as opposed to gazillion with PC.

Retain all the benefits of console, yet make it current with the times. Sounds like a winner for me.

hellvaguy4949d ago

"This idea totally defeats the purpose of console gaming in my opinion."

I kinda see your point, but if done right, I do like the idea behind it. I mean nothing can stay the same forever. Have to evolve or the competition will do it for you and take over.

DeadlyFire4948d ago

Don't worry this doesn't mean anything about upgrades.

This is the specsheet layout of the Xbox 720. Nothing about upgrades at all.

Communication fabric = ARM CPU? Sounds so similar to this? http://www.anandtech.com/sh...

Other CPU/GPUs. 1 CPU/GPU each for Kinect 2/projector room, X360 compatibility, and X720 game design.

Yes? or No?

SilentNegotiator4948d ago (Edited 4948d ago )

"There is a big difference between this approach and PC. The main one is the PC path is riddled with nasty incompatibilities and pretty poor overall user experience"

Better, but it would STILL cause fissures in compatibility and the community.

Upgradeable consoles absolutely defeat the purpose of consoles.

ShabbaRanks4948d ago

Remember the N64 .... :)

I don't think its a bad Idea, but anyways RAM is so cheap now that next gen will most likely have 4gbs minimum. If not MS and Sony are retarded... The only thing missing will be the SSD that I will definitely get at the same time xP

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Oh_Yeah4949d ago (Edited 4949d ago )

The name xbox infinite would actually make sense if it's upgradeable.. Hopefully it is. Every 4 years or so just release an upgrade kit instead of a whole new console...same case, different parts..it would save everyone including the companies a bunch of money.

Jazz41084948d ago

Not to seem uneducated but please tell me what Tires has to do with this? I must be missing something Shutup?

JamieL4948d ago

I think he meant tiers.

Mike134nl4948d ago

Either way in some sense a new xbox720 or whatever will be upgradable to some extent with hard-drives and maybe some new face plates I assume .

Leaving a slot open for possible future ram upgrades like the n64 is possible. In Microsoft case I would guess any upgrade kits to the system would only influence the media and apps functions of the box and not the specifications needed to play games.

An additional processor might be included in kinect(2),but this is not a upgrade to the box.

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chukamachine4949d ago

PS3/360 already have upgradeable parts.

HD,LOL.

As for anything else, just no.

Already got a pc, don't need another one.

All console games must run the same.

PtRoLLFacE4949d ago

it sounds good but is going to have a big impact on the design, in a consoles every component is glued to the motherboard reducing the size of the machine, the only way i see it, is having gpu, cpu and ram cramped to a different board with is own cooling system, and then make attachable to the motherboard just like pc graphic cards, if everything is separate like normal pc it needs a different cooling system for each piece, increasing the size of the console, and don't forget the power supply, i don't know how that will play out, but the idea it self is not bad as long as they don't make upgrades every six months lol

AAACE54949d ago

Believe it or not consoles used to be made with upgrades in mind. The n64 had the ram upgrade and an under slot for the disc drive that only released in japan. The sega genesis had so many addons it was sickening.

It wouldnt be hard to design a console that has slots to upgrade ram and gpu. But the cpu would probably have to stay in place.

It would be cool if we were able to swap out disc drives since those die out.

Bathyj4949d ago

The RAM expansion only came out after they realised Perfect Dark was going to run like crap without it and it was a big game for Nintendo with alot of anticipation for it. It never would have released if not for that game.

And it was horribly under utilised by other games that came after that.

I can only surmise that the fact there was a slot even built for it that Nintendo knew the N64 was going to be lacking in this area from the start.

cee7734949d ago (Edited 4949d ago )

then why was it a slot for ram genius

THC CELL4949d ago (Edited 4949d ago )

Sony owns a patent to upgradable consoles http://www.gtplanet.net/for...

konnerbllb4949d ago

They own a patent to do a very specific thing with their own console. They don't own a patent on upgradable consoles, that's ridiculous. Notice how Sony patented their own kinect technology earlier this year and didn't get sued into the ground by Microsoft? The same idea can be patented for different applications using different means of achieving what is patented.

ALLWRONG4948d ago

@THC CELL Why the hell did you post that?

GraveLord4949d ago

Never going to happen. The whole point of consoles is that you don't to worry about any sort of settings/requirements. Just pop in and play.

Why would someone buy an upgrade-able console when they can just buy a PC which would give you a much wider range of options.

Indo4948d ago (Edited 4948d ago )

Exactly. Everyone buys a console for the simplicity factor. If you want an upgradable system invest in a Gaming PC.

BitbyDeath4949d ago

Story Quality = WTF?

Consoles are popular because you don't have to upgrade.
Aside from Software you literally plug and play.

Why nerd it up?

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio39d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing39d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit39d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing39d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted42d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8542d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele41d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk41d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay41d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10142d ago (Edited 42d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit41d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg41d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10141d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14941d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay41d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn242d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn241d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown41d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay41d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay41d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac41d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger42d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300041d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde41d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde41d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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