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Treyarch Game Developer Explains How Call Of Duty: Black Ops II Was Designed For ESports

Activision and developer Treyarch enlisted former Call of Duty pro gamer Mike “Hastr0” Rufail to design the multiplayer eSports elements of Call of Duty: Black Ops II from the beginning. The game was developed with three distinct teams, one focusing solely on multiplayer and eSports. Treyarch Game Design Director David Vonderhaar explains how eSports played an integral role in the multiplayer gameplay experience in this exclusive interview.

ThanatosDMC4812d ago

I dont understand how it could be Esports especially for shooters like COD. Skill curve, teamwork, tactics, strategy, planning, etc. is lacking it shooters of this type. It has no depth compared to BF3 or Planetside 2. There's no skill even related to how the guns work or take into account the recoil like in CS 1.6. Oh well, I dont understand.

Games i consider Esport worthy are games like SC:BW, League of Legends, and SC2. When the quality of the gamers playing can be seen.

I hate those fighter games that have "pros" keep on spamming the same damn combo everybody uses that's an instant kill. I wish they'd take those ridiculous combos out because it becomes a waiting game on who can land their combo first and win.

Gohadouken4812d ago (Edited 4812d ago )

" I wish they'd take those ridiculous combos out because it becomes a waiting game on who can land their combo first and win.

I find such argument to be vastly exagerated . There is such a thing as reading and outmaneuvering your opponent ... that's what it is about . Not just or even necessarily at all waiting ...

Hell they dont wait at all in many pros matches .

In juggles oriented games , they are a way to punish mistakes and misreading . Nothing wrong with that .

In anything you see far more turtling and waiting in classic 2d fighters with less long combos .

ThanatosDMC4812d ago

2D fighters usually have pokes/energy attack/long range attacks to set up those ridiculous insta-kill combos. It's not about reading or outmaneuvering, it's just waiting for the other guy to make a mistake. Just like the last King of Fighter tournament. The first guy who made a mistake lost all three characters since there's an advantage in killing your first opponent's first character since it opens up an advantage during the character switch in which the other person cant defend himself. The combos last more than one character's life bar.

Yes, they do wait in many pro matches. Waiting is usually around 3-6 seconds, it's short but it's really long compared to when they actually land the combo since it's a finisher.

Juggles are the worst in 3D fighters especially in Tekken 6. I'm so glad they toned down the damage and focused less emphasis on Juggle and Bound combos. Punching a guy's foot who's laying flat in the air which made him float even higher while taking 50-66% percent of standing damage is bull crap. Tekken Tag 2 got it perfectly.

What games do you play? I dont know any recent 2D fighters that have short combos.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gohadouken4811d ago (Edited 4811d ago )

Uh ? most street fighter games got rather short combos .

And i'm not even sure your video even helps your argument . They dont display insta death combos , arent that long and have for the most part built in mechanics that tone down the damages . Of course there are 100% damageing combos , they are in EVERY fighting games , glitch or not ... but most of the time arent worth the effort and difficult to pull in regular matches .

"I'm so glad they toned down the damage and focused less emphasis on Juggle and Bound combos"

They upped the damage actually , made it impossible to even play at 150% life , implented a system allowing multiple rages in a single round , and rather than shortening juggling , made it so they require tagging in the middle of the combo . Of course it's better but let's not pretend they nerfed and killed the usual juggling in tekken .

No offense , but I find it to be the excuse of sore losers to be like "i can't do squat , guy is waiting for me then install kill combo/juggle me" . It's quite not the reality of things and the real picture . You messed up big time then get punished , all those games do that , the rest is variant mechanics for each styles . Tekken 6 had issues to fix obviously , but let's not pretend Tag 2 did away with the usual meta game

"Yes, they do wait in many pro matches. Waiting is usually around 3-6 seconds"

Not really they are rather aggressive usually , but of course wont rush like fools . They'll try reading or psyching each others .

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

As you'll see , not really your "insta kill combos" , nor waiting game . They dance around , poke , gauge , strike wich is to be expected .

papashango4811d ago

An fps can be esport oriented. See cs. However a game that's only designed to last a year will never succeed in esports. There's absolutely no point to scrimming or memorizing maps when you can't work your way up the ladders, for example going from CAL-O to CAL-IM/M/P in a year. cod will never blow up like starcraft or league of legends which is what their trying to push.

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Kotick claims lawsuit objecting to MS-Activision deal was "tied to Embracer's desire to boost sales"

Former CEO describes lawsuit filed by Swedish pension fund as a "collateral attack" on Activision Blizzard.

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OpenGL1d 5h ago

Yeah, the Microsoft deal has DEFINITELY worked out for everyone.

galgor1d 2h ago

Can this mother fucker just get lost already

PRIMORDUS1d 1h ago

He belongs in here ⚰️, hopefully sooner than later.

MrDead10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Kotick Made $155 million from MS in the buyout, the little b*tch needs to stop whining. Thanks to this Microslop deal and massive industry consolidation thousands upon thousands of devs and other workers lost their livelihoods. This greedy piggie pervert needs shut up and f-off.

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Microsoft needs to listen or risk irreparable harm to Call of Duty

Windows Central: "The money may keep rolling in, but Microsoft is the custodian of one of the biggest selling video game series in history. If something doesn't change, I fear we'll reach a breaking point and irreparable damage will have been done."

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StoneTitan51d ago

Because ms is so good at managing studios, surely they will get it right

:P

franwex51d ago

In my view, they should probably merge MP with Warzone and essentially make it free to play like Halo Infinite. The campaign/zombies mode can be $30 yearly DLC. I know this would be insanity as most COD players essentially pay the full price of the game simply for the MP. However-with a shrinking player base they may have to consider it. Making it free would bring in a ton of players.

Profchaos51d ago

To late MW3 should have been a lesson but here we are two years later with a steaming pile a shite called blops7

bsingle4051d ago

Nothing lasts forever, eventually something will come along to make people forget about COD

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1Victor51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

@Oumba:”We’ve heard that story many times before 😂”
You know what we seen many times good franchises been run into the ground by bad management like h___o , f___a and most of the sports game oh I forgot the dynasty warriors
Oh forgot to say
Happy thanksgiving to all the N4G members
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MDTunkown51d ago

Halo killer once arrived and technically call of duty killer also arrived, its name is Fortnite

dveio51d ago

Call of Duty was riding the revenue horse and charts for ~20 years. Whether undeserved or deserved.

But I endorse everyone to remind you that Microsoft could have decided differently when they took it over.

The money was certainly there, and they could have taken their time revamping the franchise:

Current-gen tech, manageable microtransactions, not imitating Fortnite and returning to core values of the franchise's origin.

They didn't.

Let's see next year. Hopefully without the then 13 years old PS4 and One hardware.

blacktiger51d ago

you need to stop saying "let see next year"

XBManiac51d ago

dveo is an alias of Phil Spencer?

XBManiac51d ago

dveio is an alias of Phil Spencer?

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Xbox May Update: Retro Classics Come to Xbox Game Pass, PC Gaming Updates, and More

A variety of new updates are available this month across the gaming platforms. Coming today, Retro Classics games are available to play for Xbox Game Pass members. Players who stream on the Xbox app on PC now have an additional streaming option with GeForce Now. Game Bar introduces quick settings, visual updates for Widgets in Compact Mode, and coming soon, Microsoft Edge Game Assist, an in-game browser that brings an immersive game-centric experience to Edge. And Xbox gift cards can now be redeemed for any amount via Xbox Rewards.

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darthv72240d ago

While i appreciate the gesture.... all of these retro classics have been made available everywhere else. I am hoping to see some other Activision properties make their way out of the shackles of the 5th, 6th and 7th gen. Licensing be damned... bring back the Transformers Cybertron games.

P_Bomb240d ago

Love the Cybertron games! TF games have been shit lately. Would love to see that era revisited. I even did the multiplayer!

MrBaskerville239d ago

Is the retro classics for all consoles?

Obscure_Observer240d ago

Metaphor on Gamepass just announced! O.o

Seriously, this is the best generation of Xbox ever!!!

We can´t catch a freaking break from awesome games arriving all the time!!!

Deathdeliverer240d ago

It’s a HELL of a game. If you like JRPGs in the family of Persona, you will be in heaven… that is until you hear the various battle music…. then you’ll be somewhere BEYOND heaven!

babadivad239d ago

Just finished Clair Obscur. This should be fun.