The solution would be new console models with better hardware or a PC.

Just leave it to Rockstar, they will figure it out, hopefully. I mean, they always have :)

LMFAO@yukicore.

Stronger hardware is the brute-force solution. The fool's solution.

This is exactly why it's a GOOD thing the new generation isn't upon us. Want to know how Rockstar got around this?

By coding a better engine to accomplish what they wanted on more limited hardware.

That's how games evolve. Limitations breed creativity, and all that.

More efficient 3D model and texture storage, loading and unloading.

mod challenge accepted

I am still not convinced about this...The 360 and PS3 lack of RAM is what is holding games back, it hard to belive that R* has found a solution to this,I know some people are saying that the solution is a better engine but it just does not make sense for R* to invest in a currrent gen engine when its almost over.

You would think that the graphics would take a massivr hit to acomodate the large map and also maintain the the envirment that GTA4 had but from the screen shots that we have seen GTA5 looks way better than GTA4.

I really hope this is true that R* csn give us a huge open world game with lots of modes and cutomization and beautful graphics and a world that feels real.

Skyrim was huge but the graphics took a hit and the world felt very copy and paste " I took an arrow to the knee" almost drove me nuts.

Rockstar could have done this with IV, but they were bought off by MS, so they couldnt make a version that wouldn't make the 360 version look inferior. Rockstar wanted IV to have multiple discs and mandatory install for the 360 version, but MS wouldnt let it happen, which caused the size of IV to suffer.

Luckily, MS now wastes all thier money on COD DLC and advertisement, so it has given rockstar a lot more freedom to do what that want with GTA, which is how it should be.

@Pushagree

That's the biggest load of bull crap, dude.

The "size" of GTA 4 had nothing to do with MS. There were even a few things the PS3 version had, media wise, that the 360 version did not. Also, the 360 version was gimped pretty badly when it came to smeared texture resolutions.

Knight_Crawler is right, it wasn't disc space so much as it was RAM, and both the 360 and PS3 have problems with limited memory access for games that look good.

Think about it, the only games that look as good as GTA V are linear corridor shooters. Just Cause 2 looked great but there was almost NOTHING on the screen save for one or two cars every once in a while. The world was not living or breathing like a Rockstar game, which was how they could afford to make it so expansive.

What Rockstar is saying, though, applies to next-gen consoles...a lot of people here don't know how tech works and for the people who are worried about the game due to the current gen consoles' limitations (i.e., the 360's lack of storage space and both the 360 and PS3's lack of RAM) makes it hard for me to believe that the game will turn out the way Rockstar says it will.

Just as Knight Crawler mentioned, even Skyrim took a huuuge hit in graphics to accommodate its world for 360 and PS3. Unless GTA V comes with a RAM expansion pack (ala Zelda Majora's Mask) there's no way the game will look that good and have all those features.

When you say everything. Do you mean "everything"? lol

UFO's FTW!

Ahhh I disagree. The phone became really annoying in GTAIV, but that's because they didn't implement it well.

But the mobile phone is such an integral part of modern culture, it really can't be left out. So i'm glad they've reassessed the whole mobile phone thing in order to change its function in the game so as to not be f***ing annoying, but instead to actually add to the immersion and integration of the city they're building.

How about an app for a smart phone so you can listen on a real phone over WI-fi

Smartphone app would be great, as in both console and smartphone connected to the internet and synced so changes on the app affect the in-game phone. That way you don't have to waste screen space on the phone and you can control both the phone and character independently and at the same time.

its a hard bet to make. hindsight is always 20/20.

After Driveclub's reception, hard to say it would have done well enough to compete. It's easy to dream of such a thing, but to make it happen? It's taken how long for CoD to be dethroned? And it was dethroned by Hogwart's Legacy and has gained it right back just the next year.

Futbol.

Agree that all you just posted are great games. Expedition 33 is one of my favorites. Spent a large chunk of time on BG3 in 2023. Another for my all-time list.

My point though not well articulated in the OG post is that we would get more of the games of the quality you mentioned if so many valuable resources were not allocated to FTP slop and/or heavy monetization schemes. Some of what used to be my favorite franchises have been ruined by them.

To sum it up, I would like to see games like 33 outperform the profits made by games like Fortnite so more resources are allocated to great games. When heavily monetized FTP games are at the top of the list, we end up being stuck with a significant chunk of games that are not good. Or worst case scenario games that spend years in development, but get cancelled due to industry trend chasing.

Perhaps, and I hope you’re right. A shift is needed IMO