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If Nintendo bought Rare...

There has been a rumor going around that Nintendo is interested in buying Rare back from Microsoft. While it is merely a rumor, Wii U Only thought it would be interesting to speculate on what could happen if Nintendo were to buy their former second-party developer back from Microsoft.

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TXIDarkAvenger4959d ago

Problem is if Nintendo bought Rare, they would own those IPs. But the key people of Rare who made those games great have all left. I don't want to see some of my favourite games die but I don't want to see them ruined. These IPs have to be given to the right people.

MikeMyers4959d ago

Most have left but I see no possibility of Nintendo buying Rare back.

na-no-nai4958d ago

Nintendo could buy them and hired talent developers and have them work at Rare. Well of course it won't be the same as the original Rareware that we all grew up with.

darthv724958d ago

they would be getting a shell of the former company responsible for those titles that made Rare what they were.

There is more to a company than just the name. I think even Square has gone through some shift changes to which the teams responsible for some of the classic FF games are no longer there.

Hell, not even SEGA are what they were in the glory days.

wastedcells4958d ago

Ya rare is nobody now. Why would they buy a problem. Plus retro is the new rare in a way and they just started. When retro delivers a new IP we will know for sure.

DivineAssault 4959d ago

maybe killer instinct would still be alive

Knight_Crawler4959d ago

You really think Killer Instinct on the Wii would have been good -_-

omarzy4959d ago

Would have been better than the one that was never made for the 360.

Knight_Crawler4959d ago

@Omar - Thats the most silliest thing I have heard.

So you would rather them make crappy game and rape a good franchise, I would rather KI left alone than to play it with the Wiimote or Kinect.

omarzy4959d ago

It is only silly is you automatically assume it would have been crappy. They would not have been able to make it for kinect anyway. The moves in fighting games are inhuman movements. They would not even bother.

1upgamer994959d ago

Killer instinct on Wii may not have looked quite as good on Wii, but one thing that Rare was known for (10 years ago not now) was what Retro is currently known for doing with Wii and that is utilizing and making the best with what you have, and making it work.

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PopRocks3594959d ago

Nintendo should buy back the IPs that Rare owns. To heck with the developer itself; the geniuses behind many of the games we loved back in the day moved onto other studios.

BitbyDeath4959d ago

Rumour sounds too good to be true.

KMCROC4959d ago (Edited 4959d ago )

Two Thing's Wrong with this Article

1) If MS did decide to sell Rare the price would be high as hell cause of the draw & profit that each ip can pull in if remade or given new life .

2) Why would MS sell some great IPs when they themselves can reinvent ,rejuvenate ,rebirth these IP with their new first party studios that they have opened. So as to generate tons of cash from retail or Digital sales, shit they can even offer them as games to be played on the Xbox Live on there Surface slates. Only a Fool,Moron would throw away such an opportunity to make profit & generate revenue. They should keep them & use them as they see fit to generate profit.

1upgamer994959d ago

Rare since its days with Nintendo, has not made nearly the amount of true quality games, and please note I said nearly, of games as when they were with Nintendo. Since most of the developing staff who were behind the great games that Rare once developed are gone anyway, well, simply put so is the genius. Sure Rare has put out some great games on Xbox, but compare GREAT Xbox titles to GREAT Nintendo Titles...Nintendo/Rare would win hands down. The fact of the matter is, when Nintendo has a developer like Rare, they hold their hand throughout development. Even if its a Golden Eye, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie, They know what will and will not work in a game and help the Developers run with it. I am sorry if you disagree when you read this, but its true. Now Microsoft can have Rare....Retro Studios is now to Nintendo what Rare was then.

KMCROC4959d ago

I do not deny the fact that Rare at one time was a great developer of good game early on in their existence or that they even tried to do so under new ownership. but my comment was how certain people believe that a Corporation like MS & it gaming divisions will give up an opportunity to make cash off the IPs that were obtain Thur the buying of Rare. ( out of bubbles PM me u reply.)

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio28d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing28d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit28d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing28d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9227d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay29d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn230d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn229d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown30d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay29d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay29d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac29d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger30d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300030d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde30d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde29d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7531d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_29d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.