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Is Samsung creating a gaming console?

Rumor has it that Samsung is looking to jump into the gaming industry. Japanese tech site SGAME is reporting that Samsung sent out a notice to all affiliate companies notifying them that they’re looking into “the game industry ‘frontier’”, and that Samsung has begun hiring video game developers for first party games. Samsung is said to be looking to hire game designers and game directors. Samsung has denied that they are going to make their own game hardware, but we know that if it’s really in the early stages of development there would be no point in revealing it right now.

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MultiConsoleGamer4946d ago

Smart TV gaming.

As always, NeoGAF is uninformed and behind the curve.

lashes2ashes4946d ago

I agree. They are most likely just getting the people they need to make sure the cloud gaming apps work correctly.

Tired4946d ago

Could be for their phones.

Shadowgun for the galaxy s3 was pretty stunning....console quality graphics.

jadenkorri4945d ago

game companies are stretched already in making games for 2-3 consoles, adding another is not going to be appealing to them.

SolidStoner4945d ago

I like Samsung! they should create console! That would be very good for us gamers! More competition is better products! I still would buy PS4, because I trust them more and I know I get what I pay'd for...

killerhog4946d ago (Edited 4946d ago )

Having studios making games for them doesnt mean they could be making a console, but wants to start making their own games (first party) and make money from it.

Advice for Sony, start patenting everything, then sue Samsung for copying, worked for apple.

miyamoto4946d ago (Edited 4946d ago )

Sony experimented with TV sets with PS2 built in.
Like TVs with built in DVD players.

I always thought that was a nifty bundle of an idea.

OT

Samsung & Lenovo all have gaming on their TVs

Samsung & Gaikai
Lenovo & Android

I wonder why Sony has not implemented this on their TV sets already

soniqstylz4946d ago

That's why they bought Gaikai

ChrisGTR14945d ago

i like samsung as a company but i dont agree with this. nowadays its all about software rather than hardware. samsung is a hardware company. much like sony. i think its safe to say that the 360 is a much better gaming experience vs ps3 due to the fact that MS did a good job on the software. like for example cross game chat and in game music has been on the 360 since launch. i remember on ps3 it took about 2 years just to get in game xmb(which even today is way too slow) theres still no voice messages and not to mention still no cross game chat. this is generally what happens when hardware company's make tech, they make the product first then think about how do we market this. where as software companys make a service and use hardware that will run it. im not a fanboy im just saying it like it is.

dragunrising4945d ago

I'd like to add that Nintendo is a game centric company that still is reluctant to add persistent voice chat, and voice messages. I believe the voice chat issue with PS3 has more to do with a limitation of RAM. Sony would have added it if they were able. Nintendo on the other hand ignores almost of the advances in social online connectivity. Granted in still getting a Wii U however its unfortunate all the same.

Irishguy954945d ago

360 - iPhone
Ps3 - Android
Wii - 1990's Home phone

Ju4945d ago (Edited 4945d ago )

Some people missed the train. HW is becoming more and more second priority. It's the SW and services which go with it which makes a product these day. Samy would be nowhere in the mobile sector without Android (they were kind of successful with BadaOS, but nowhere close where compared to the Galaxy). Same with Apple. No OS-X/iOS no Apple. And MS is the third. They are a prime example for a strong SW company. HW is important to promote the SW, but the focus is shifting more and more to the SW package which comes with it.

It's probably a combination of the two, specs promote the company and the products. But a device is useless if you can't do much with it. Only Apple is the one which does both, HW and SW, MS is SW only (with HW as a by-product), Sammy is a HW company using (and customizing the OS to some extend - see the Note). BTW.: The best gaming OS is RIM's QNX based OS...with them not even knowing (lowest latency OS, full native C/C++ SDK, posix compliant - that's what developers like).

But with Win8 (x86 and RT) MS will go this route with their next gaming platform. Android adds more features in the NDK (which makes this more and more suitable for game devs) and, well, iOS...well, you can just port games to that (same there. More games use C++ with an ObjectiveC wrapper).

If Sammy goes gaming, I guess they are going with Android as their OS. But please don't make the mistake and use a Java based gaming platform. Nobody ports to Java...or actually companies do and then you have to maintain two or three different code bases...

These mobile OSs can easily be scaled to a console environment and don't carry the weight of a full PC based platform, but can perform well or identical. No need for custom gaming OSs any more. It'll happen. Probably sooner than most of you think.

To make one thing clear here...I guess this is necessary to point out on N4G...lol. I have a Vita and enjoy it quite a bit. It's an awesome device and I can only hope we are getting more devices like that. Sony will need to rethink their gaming strategy. They won't survive with a closed system in the long run. They are currently ahead - see Playstation Mobile - but it won't last forever.

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Belking4946d ago

If that happens the only corp that this will hurt is maybe sony or Nintendo.

ceballos77mx4946d ago

If its smart TV gaming I think Sony has that covered with the Gaikai purchase, if its a console or handheld you could be right

bangshi4946d ago

Before Sony bought Gaikai, Gaikai had already got themselves going Samsung TVs.

http://www.engadget.com/201...

Be interesting to see what becomes of that now, given Sony make TVs.

I wonder if they (Samsung) will reach out to OnLive?

badz1494946d ago

no point reaching them THAT far down!

Hicken4946d ago

What you wanted to say- without saying it, so you wouldn't look quite like such a fanboy(still failed)- is that the only company it WOULDN'T affect is Microsoft.

Belking4946d ago

A samsung console would hurt nin and sony because it would eat into their japanese market. Japanese won't buy xbox but they sure as hell would buy a Samsung console. They have a partnership with MS and they don't see MS as a direct competitor.

gatormatt804945d ago

Samsung is not a Japanese company though. They are South Korean.

wastedcells4946d ago

It's defiantly tied to their smart tvs. Not a console or handheld.

KMCROC4946d ago

Imagine a gaming handheld device from SamSung that would destroy 3DS & cripple the vita . now that would be a cool start for them to enter the handheld first ,test the market once they have done destroyed them. Then enter the console market & happily coexist with your console brothers.

violents4946d ago

Dude if a handheld from samsung could "blow away" a vita then it would be too expensive and no one would buy it. The vita is pretty awsome already and the high price point is slowing it down. If anyone came out with something better it would sell even worse.

KMCROC544946d ago

If they truly want in , i say do better than vita at same price but add on would be that it becomes a controlller for your Samsung
tv ,which probly has some console feature bulit in it to continue your game on the big screen without the need
for a second disk . now that would be cool.

Ju4946d ago (Edited 4946d ago )

Samsungs Exynos 5250 beats the Vita and could probably be sold for $250. This would bring some competition into the gameing market (already available in the A15 Google Chrome book or Samy's eval board for $250).

Consoles - as we know it - might be going down the drain. This might all shift if we would actually get a 3rd party Gaming OS. Android could be just that. The NDK gives you all you need to write high performance games now. What's missing is using the OS as a gaming platform with dedicated gaming services and a whole bunch of (compatible) devices (with some min specs the devs can rely on).

Same goes with actually consoles. Same OS can be build into all kind of devices. They are fast enough to replace consoles - or soon will be.

I would think future consoles are more like a SW than a HW platform. And you can pick and choose if you want a cheap one with lesser feature or a top end which plays super HD. And with that the business model might change completely.

neogeo4946d ago

Samsung is the largest transistor company on Earth and now bigger then Intel. OLED screen on Vita is made by samsung. Ram. CPU's, motherboards. are all made by Sam. So they can cut the middle man and make a handheld that DESTROYS Vita for not only cheaper but they could even sell the hardware at a huge loss for shiz and gigs because they have so much cash. Just to get in the market.

Oh_Yeah4945d ago

Except your forgetting Sony jacks up prices on most of their hardware especially tvs
compared to their competitors.I bet Samsung could make a handheld with the same specs and sell it for 100 less.

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violents4946d ago

It would be cool but it would have to be in a few years to be cost effective, that's a lot of extras to squeeze into a handheld and still keep it low cost. But i Do agree it could have some amazing possiblities.

Ck1x4946d ago

I find it funny that you use a phrase such as "destroy the 3ds & cripple the Vita!" As if the Vita were actually doing better than the 3ds is right now...

KMCROC4946d ago

Not to be a prick , but hows this i hope Samsung does make a handheld that will destroy the Vita & cripple the 3DS. Is that better.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot14d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle14d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7714d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay15d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn216d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn215d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown15d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay15d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay15d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac15d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger15d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300015d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde15d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde15d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Guild Wars Publisher CEO Warns AI Can't Replace What Makes Games 'Instinctively Fun'

TNS - NCSoft CEO admitted that AI is rapidly becoming a core part of game development, but he added that it cannot replace what makes games fun.

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Lionsguard17d ago

To be fair, there are also human made games that release and lack any fun at all either.

jznrpg16d ago

But all of the great games have been made by humans

jwillj2k416d ago

One is by choice, the other is a feature.

PRIMORDUS16d ago

Guild Wars 2 been playing for 14yrs, 1st beta. This is just one company I support, Arenanet and NCSoft, even though I torrent, there are a few PC companies I will buy from. "PlayStation’s Horizon MMO spin-off, Horizon Steel Frontiers." I feel this will be good, NCSoft is a good developer/publisher.

CrimsonWing6916d ago

It’s a tool. Use it elevate things and get it done faster. I’m sorry but not every game made by humans is good. If this can help things, then I fully embrace it.