Evil Controllers turns to crowd sourcing for their heavenly new idea.
MP1st talks with Adam Coe, founder of Evil Controllers about custom controllers, why we didn’t see back buttons default on next-gen controllers and more.
Gaming peripheral makers Evil Controller's CEO states why he doesn't think Sony included PS5 controller back buttons by default
"Coe might have a point, as making the DualSense feature back buttons by default might have driven the overall cost for the controller (and the console itself) a bit higher, which Sony doesn’t want to do. Of course, there is the high probability that Sony will want to sell a DualSense back button attachment in the future, which means more revenue for the company."
That it would drive costs up is a given and so to keep it priced competitively Sony would have to have dropped features such as haptic feedback. I'm hoping they do offer the back button option as I really like them on my Elite Series 2, but an add-on is preferable, in my opinion, than losing haptics.
Yep, same. I honestly thought they would be default this gen. That said, Sony would jeopardize a lot of third-party controller makers if they did it, but you just know they are releasing a back button attachment to this thing, so I guess it's just a matter of when?
Third-party controllers offer better triggers for shooters and other stuff too aside from back buttons. I can't play shooters without back buttons (and no, it's not cheating).
I love them primarily because I've always found R3 and L3 to be awkward to press. Making the controller better isn't cheating any more than a gaming keyboard with macros or a mouse with additional buttons. Just tools of the trade, so to speak.
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You have no idea how many people see back buttons and paddles as "cheats." Even if you explain that Sony and MS allow them and they are not banned in tournament play, some people will still say you are cheating...
The ones that support mods, they are cheating.
Just having the extra buttons it’s fine
Well it's cheating if it's not a official attachment. Once it is, it's not cheating. In DS4 and Xbox control they're not anymore. In the PS360 era you could argue it is as it was never part of Sony or MS control design and you're creating controller shortcuts.
Either way.
Wanted to say, I think the only reason they really didn't attach it by default is simply 1 reason. They're support to be extra programmable buttons. If they just attach it, devs may use em as regular buttons defeating the purpose of adding the buttons in the first place. Making it optional means devs can't touch and modify use outside it's intent. Like how the elite controls don't become the default controller. If it did. The back buttons would likely become dev programmable. which isn't necessarily bad. But the point was to personalize buttons
@Teflon
That's a very interesting point. I can definitely see that as being a reason
why would the back button attachment drive the cost up? the one Sony release for the PS4 was good but a bit pricey. I bought a 3rd party back button attachments for 2 of my DS4 and they work just fine IMO and they cost like $6 - $7 each.
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Of course it would drive up the price. How would it not? Even if it was $6 or $7 more like that cheapo thing you posted, that is still adding to the price.
Silly question, dude.
@Razzer
what I'm saying is, if I can buy 1 or 2 of them for $7, buying in bulk would mean that it would be much much cheaper to almost negligible in the grand scheme of things.
Negligible? Come on. Think about this. Even if you are only add $5 worth of components to the controller you've got to multiply that by the number sold. PS5 has already sold 5 million units. So just the controller in the box would have cost an additional $25 million for Sony if they kept the price the same. And Sony is already selling PS5 at a loss. That is not negligible.
Not related but I just found out RDR2 dead body's decay and vultures will come pick it clean. Game of the gen!!! It's so freak real.
Lol there's just so much to discover about the game it's mind blowing. Easily the most realistic game to date
Decaying bodies that vultures eat. Wow.....if only that realism made up for the horrible gameplay and controls.
But glad you enjoyed it. No idea why you felt you needed to share this in an article about Sony's......oh wait.....nevermind. I get it now. lol
If you suck at the game just say that
Ah forgot you was on the Sony defense force committee. Not sure why you think this somehow an attack on Sony when it's non related lol Shouldve posted this on an Xbox topic Xbox fanboys not as weird as you guys but I literally just seen it as I read this.
What is there to suck at in RDR2? The gameplay is about as shallow as it comes. Point....shoot. Good thing too since the controls are crap. No, the only thing that killed me in RDR2 was sheer boredom.
You are just trolling Sony articles like you always do, but you really think your posting of silly off-topic nonsense is going to be well-received anywhere on n4g? Uh...yeah, good luck with that. Yeah, you'd probably get less downvotes from your fellow Xbox fanboys, but still you are just making yourself look stupid.
Uh it's a wild west game wtf you expect the gameplay to be sides shooting? Which you clearly aren't good at. Yet somehow find a point and shoot game like tlous to be a game of gen contender lol. Only person that look silly here is you
"Yet somehow find a point and shoot game like tlous to be a game of gen contender lol."
LOL. Yep, there it is. I knew that was why you were here trolling. You are so damned butthurt that Sony has so many games that could contend for GOTG that you've got to search out Sony articles to promote RDR2 as GOTG. You need to work on your trolling game. It has gotten stale and predictable.
I'm just going to laugh off the idiotic description of TLOU as a "point and shoot" game. Play the game, Einstein, and then you will realize how stupid that truly is and you'll have a better understanding of a game that expands beyond just being a mindless shooter.
I'll let you continue your silly trolling now. Your knowledge of gaming this past gen is shit. You are not qualified to even have a vote on GOTG. Your only demonstrable qualification is trolling. see ya, "chief"
Lol someone in theit feelings. Just calling out your hypocrisy for dissing RDR2. It's an amazing game nuff said, feel how you wanna feel
uhmm because higher costs for Sony maybe ?, also even thou some say is a great addition to the controller on the dualshock, honestly I don't want more damn buttons on the controller.
i think its more of people expecting them to go that route versus Haptic. It would have been cheaper, but i'm glad we got the latter. And yeah, that's basically the reason, they're more for competitive so why offer it by default versus something that will be used everywhere
Just means the back button isn't for you which is fine. But it definitely draws a fine line if it should even be allowed or not.
I feel like if there was back buttons then it would make devs use those instead of the touch pad. This could be better or worse (fps games of course would love it), but I feel the touch pad is fine enough for most single player games. Touch's also a shit ton more dynamic even though barely anyone pushes to use it in such a way.
This week Gareth Justin, Michael, and Joseph at Skewed and Reviewed look at the new game consoles, game releases of the week Blizzcon and more.
08:20 Blizzard Upcoming Game News
16:00 Console release news
28:37 Evil Controllers / Roccat
38:00 Square Enix big loss with Marvel Avengers
Listening to this I just heard one thing. This is sponsored by Microsoft.... Damn they went out of their way to rise MS to the skies. Sad how openly bias these people are tbh.
They said gamepass x 1000, but they don't seem to know unsponsored words like Dualsense, Haptics, Demon's Souls, Spiderman etc... Lame.
You could not be further from the truth. I do not have an have no plans to get an Xbox and did not get the last generation of Xbox systems. I play mainly on a PC and have a PS5.
We do not have any business dealing with Microsoft nor do any of my staff. The only difference is that two of the people on the show with me like the system. However they also are mainly PC as their platform gamers and also have PS systems.
We do not talk up items for pay or benefit; we give our opinions and reviews based on our experiences.
Why not have some facts before throwing are baseless claims based on something you heard. It is a pretty insulting thing you said and completely invalid.
That's how I heard it without any pre-info about you guys. So for me it's a fact. You guys sound like an MS propagandamachine ! That's how I experienced it and what, I can't form myself an personal opinion on what I hear you guys say and how you guys says it ?! Gtfo with you censorship.
It's not baseless when myself and my 2 friends here heard it at the same time and independently thought the same thing about this pod.
But don't worry, as Playstation owners we will stay clear of your site and pod. Problem solved.
Just wish you would have done some research and noted all the PS coverage on the site and how we do far more PS and PC coverage than Xbox.
Sorry but after this pod that will never happen I'm afraid. You only get one chance to make a first impression and all that.,,
Fair enough if that's what you think but it was clearly pro MS. Confident predictions that MS are going to win the generation, hints that Sony's methods are stale and endless praise for Gamepass.
Again, fair play if those are your honest opinions, I don't agree but each to their own.
Evil Controllers can go to hell. They sponsor BHLGaming.com
A well know community of douche bags that boost in games.
My controller is just fine as it is.. None of the things listed interest me.
The controller looks legit and is a neat idea but I am not a fan of Evil designs since I've played against "gamers" that use Evil controllers. Their bio reads like an ad and tells the reader to go to the site etc. I used quotations around the term, gamer because I don't consider these malleable trolls to be true gamers since they have to use a controller that aims for them or auto drop shots for online play. I really don't care if one uses a modded controller for the single player experience but using it for online is indicative real skill. @OneAboveAll I can't believe that there is a site that basically nests gaming boosting like that. It's something that I wish I could 'un-see'
There is so much emphasis on K/D or Win/Loss ration that the online community has deviated from the true nature of what gaming is and that's, fun. Yeah, I can be somewhat proud among my friends about my high Win/Loss but does the real world care? You can't put it on a resume or go up to a woman and say, "Hey, my K/D is BEAST."
It annoys me that wannabe pro's watch a few youtube videos and immediately attempt to mimic skill that took a period of time to hone.
If one has to cheat at a video game then what does that say about that life of a person.