@ shoddy

Exactly. If some of these guys have such a passion for running custom software for specific hardware, then build a custom PC and go crazy with Linux. If you buy a console, or phone or whatever, they are designed to perform specific tasks implemented by the designers... So we purchase those consoles, phones, etc because we want access to those services on that design. If these hack/crackers are so brilliant, there is an entire industry in which they can work and bring their constructive ideas to life. I can certainly appreciate pressing the envelope to tear through the abstractions of hardware v software, but if it's just about free games and phone calls then the hack/cracker in that case is nothing more than a thief with too much knowledge.

Man you guys get worked up over the dumbest shit.

sony will fix whatever the problem is and ittle be over with.

people are gonna do what people are gonna do. nothing whining can do to stop it.

I guess we all knew the PS3 would face this day at some point. Too bad it was a fun ride.

I like you comments gribble. Your crazy but I like u

@Guitarded

Who are you to tell someone what they can/can't do with their own device that they purchased?

True. If I buy a crowbar, no-one should be able to tell me not to break into your house and take your money.

@Gribble

You can straw-man all you like. It doesn't support your argument any better. I can come up with a million different situations that SOUND terrible, but are related in no way whatsoever.

Fact of the matter is, it's your device. You do with it what you please. If you want to hack it, you hack it. If you want to pirate, then do that, but you may have to deal with consequences. But who are you people to actually tell a person what they can or can't do with WHAT THEY PURCHASED WITH THEIR OWN MONEY.

In fact, the people saying that modifying their devices isn't even worth it, the fact that features come about that Sony, Apple, or any other company would have never included way outweighs not jailbreaking/modding it.

I have my ipod jailbroken, and I do not even use it to download apps. The functionality increased by several 100%, but according to you I'm scum and villainy. The fact that you clowns automatically jump to piracy as the number one reason that a person would want to modify their device speaks wonders about your insecurities and your loyalty to a company that doesn't give two craps about you.

right.....cuz we know the hackers will just stop here and not have a new firmware update within a week. those hackers are notorious for being extremely lazy and unmotivated........

@ZombieNinjaPanda: you'd think these people had something to do with the creation of the system or the software...the way they get so bent out of shape over something that has nothing to do with them.

ZombieNinjaPanda

I don't recall calling you scum. You're argument is flawed in a fundamental way but I doubt a long drawn out explanation would convince you of that. You need to protect your position in order to justify what you do.

I bought my PS3 to play games. How many of those games is down to developer support. If I play copied games then the developers have less reason to support the PS3. This leads to me having less games to play.

No matter what you use cracks for, others use that same crack for something less benign. If what you are doing allows you to play games for free, then people have the right to complain about you because you are removing the incentive for developers to support the console. Ask any PSP owner

Walk into a store, pick up a CD and walk out without paying. Do you think your argument would stand then? What's the difference? It's a product that someone has made that you should have paid for but you didn't: theft.

Thank you for this comment. I am totally buying a PS4 next gen over whatever Microsoft puts out.

Through their ordeals they will have learned so much since this generation. And they handled the attack like pros giving us free games and stuff.

And they don't spam us with ads like microsoft, they don't give into the lucrative sales to casuals, they have free online and they have been pushing out some great new IPs.

SONY FTW!

@GribbleGrunger
While I agree with most of everything you're saying, what you stated there isn't the definition of theft. On top of that pirating games also isn't theft. It's actually copyright infringement, which of course is just as illegal and admonishable. The more you know.

***"The fact that you clowns automatically jump to piracy as the number one reason that a person would want to modify their device speaks wonders about your insecurities and your loyalty to a company that doesn't give two craps about you."***

Ummm that is the number one reason why a person would modify their device.... well I'm pretty sure it isn't reason number 28....

Don't tell you're one of those people that think that most PC gamers that pirate a game only do so to test the game before buying it.

Please, we all know people want stuff for free.

@GribbleGrunger...
The only reason the ps3 took 'so long' to hack is because all of the big hackers did not care, but once sony gave them a reason to be angry they opened up the system.
All systems/hardware/software are prone to hacks, its a matter of time.

Back to the article - I dont know how these USBs will be used, I assume most users will have a more up to date FW installed.

Sony really wont even take notice of this, the console has to be already hacked for this to work, and of all the PS3's out there I assume its less than 1% (generous) that are hacked.

Hacking has one benefit; it results in more hardware sales. I live in Asia and over here people are poor. An average person who works 10 hours a day only earns around $200 a month out of which he has to pay for rent, bills, food, clothes and transport. A passionate gamer may be able to buy a console after saving bit by bit for a couple of years but he could never afford to buy $60 games when he has a family to feed. He only has one choice either to quit gaming or get a hacked console. Therefore they buy the console brand which has been hacked so that they can play games for a cheap price. For several years XBOX360 was the most popular console over here because you could buy a pirated game for as little as $2. That is why XBOX has higher sales; it is more popular in third world countries like Pakistan, India, Philippines and Malaysia. Nobody bought the PS3 because it was unhackable but after the CFW 3.55 hack we were able to play PS3 games finally. The hacks only result in sales for the console in third world countries and more total sales. Consoles are not officially released over here so the sales appear in sales numbers from their respective regions. I know people hate pirates and hackers but for us guys they are like heroes and saviours who allow us get a taste of the fun and pleasure of gaming. If there were no hackers, we would never be able to experience any of the great games. It is a necessary evil for us...

@ zombie

Ok i paid for it but i also bought my House, where there are clear and spacific rules about what you acn and can't do. i decide however to modify it, i put an extension on, raise the roof 10ft build a garage, even have chickens in the back garden etc etc etc...

Local authorities see this due to either complaints by their other residents or by just checking an area. i am forced to remove everything as i did not have permission, planning etc etc. in other terms you may own the device however you do not own the abilty to mess with everything on that device. Its called control and when it affects others i.e. me getting online for a game it then affects the masses and further stricter measures are taken and enforced. it's a minority of bloody minded people that insist and continue to try to push little boundaries all the time for very little or no benefit to others.

Sony may not give a hoot about me personally, although i am a customer and i think that customers are respected and their needs are looked at very closely, whatever you want to say about any company customer service be it excellent or pants they still invest millions into maintaining a certain image that they and every other company in the world try to do. if you had someone that affected your business and customers you would certainly look at ways to make sure your customers were protected, unless you really did not care about their personal details being leaked and you name being bad mouthed in the press. How much did the downtime cost? i don't have the figures but i'm sure it wasn't pennies...

Go and build something on the side of your house (modification) then watch as you are forced to remove it, or taken to court if you dont!

Just read back through this from last night and have to say: 'what an half-baked argument from me that is'. Up late/No sleep/Oh dear.

But in essence, I stand by what I waffled.

@ZombieNinjaPanda

You're using the same argument everyone does to justify this and i'm the same, it's a nonsense argument you own the hardware and yea you can do what you want with it, the thing you don't own is the software and when it comes to editing software you have no rights at all.

I have a jailbroken phone and i've modded my consoles in the past but i know full well in the eyes of the law i don't have a leg to stand on when i start playing with the software.

Anything can be hacked and it's stupid to think it's impossible to hack any device, essentially thier only hope is to make it as difficult as possible for it to be hacked, not to say they havent done that or anything but either way its unlikely but not impossible.

well you're right and wrong,if these LV0 keys are for real,SOny can't do shit anymore,they need a new hardware,so they actually released the new PS3 slim,that one can't be hacked,but the people who still have fat consoles and early slim versions they can jailbreak it,if these LV0 are the real deal,it means ever update Sony will make,they will be able to break it
Sony to arrest anyone who hack a PS3,dude don't be so naive,wake up,Sony again can't really do that,the first time it was easier for them because those guys brag about,it was easy to find them,then there is the problem with the laws,every country has there own law,and not every country is that harsh about piracy,deal with it,piracy was before you were born,and it will remain after you are dead

@calis and @DragonKnight
So you guys think it's ok for a company to sell your private information to anyone willing to pay for it (I know Sony didn't sell it, I'm just projecting your reasoning into a different scenario)? Just because it's already available to everyone? why don't you guys just get your social security number tattooed on your head?

If you think that data has no value, then think again: why would anyone steal it? To prove a point? Which point would be: "Sony can't protect your personal information"? And you don't think that Sony is liable for that?

Your name, address, and telephone number are all public information already. If someone wanted that information they can get it with the click of a mouse or the flick of a finger. Why should Sony be held liable for information that is PUBLICLY AVAILABLE ANYWAY?

You have no argument. The only way your argument could succeed is if CC data or other, equally sensitive information, was stolen. And guess what, it wasn't. So again, how can Sony be liable for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING happening to anyone's money, or credit rating, or life in general beyond a month without online gaming?

Because it opens the door for something worse?

Like what? The possibility of hackers decrypting CC card data? Not possible. Sony has no liability in being a victim. That's like blaming a rape on the raped instead of the raper.

The problem actually was that people believed that Sony knew that they had a security hole in their system, and chose to ignore it because since no one found it and no one chose to exploit it, why should they bother using resources to do anything about it. It was not a difficulty security hole to jump through, but it was seemly overlooked for so long.

Then, when the hole was found, they blamed the people for finding it, not themselves for leaving it there and choosing to be lazy because no one knew it was there. Then they took a really extreme measure that many saw as unnecessary given the situation, and using piracy as a scapegoat to remove a feature that they always wanted to get rid of (but couldn't because some early PS3 adopters were using it so religiously).

They had the responsibility, they chose to do nothing, then blame the people for finding something they should've done something about before it was found, and took draconian measures while being snobby about a group of game developers that have really done nothing wrong (unless you ask Sony). How does that NOT make us want at least a truthful explanation?

@ dragonknight

You don't know if people had their CC info stolen or not so please stop assuming they didn't. Most people would not come to a gaming site to report their credit card info has been misused. Second Sony or any other company aren't going to tell you if peoples Credit cards was stolen to minimize lawsuits and uphold peoples faith in the services.

You really think Sony would tell people their CC info was stolen. You think Sony is in financial troubles now, people would have a field day with the lawsuits and Sony would be held liable. Their best move is to convinced you that nothing was taken and offer identity thief protection.

Plus people that have said something about their CC being used after the hack. Was called liars cause Sony said so.