Cod 4 is a great example, I mean sure there is bullet holes, but the entire strategy of a multyplayer game would change with destructible environments and make the game fresh and different every time.

I can see your point about changing the story line, but then again, as games get closer to realsism, it only makes sense to have DE. let the player attack/move how they want, and so linear.

I can snipe the guy from far away while he's sitting at his house, or I can grab a car and drive through the wall and take him out.

I hope to start seeing more DE and I think that would help make games even more "next gen". and the systems (wii excluded) are certainly powerful enough to do it.

It's about dynamic destructible environments. I could care less if the environment is made up of pre-defined pieces, I want something like Fracture. I doubt Killzone has dynamic destructibility.

Destructible Environments need not get in the way of storylines.

There are ways around stuff like that, you know.

Only a stupid developer would allow destructible environments to cause scripting errors.

Giving proper A.I. to NPCs and also giving the proper pathfinding skills would reduce or eliminate the need for designing each level with partially-destructible environments with certain "invulnerable" set pieces.

the main guy shoots a bad guy off the balcony.

he then shoots the body as its falling down and even after it hit the ground.

was it really necessary?

The PS3 just came out, how would people in the past make more destructible environments without the PS3 power???? come on!!!!!!!

You are just asking too much of these people, give them time now!!!

Destructability starts this year in gaming really. This year there are more games with physics than ever before with a number of unshown number of games that likely feature some form of destructable environments.

Here are a few great ones that will feature some form of environment destruction that I know of at the moment from what I have read.
Star Wars: Force Unleashed
KILLZONE 2
Far Cry 2
BattleField: Bad Company(consoles)/BF 3(PC)
Fracture
Mercinaries 2: World in Flames
SOCOM: Confrontation

Red Faction Three

As stated in many of these posts...it would detract from the gameplay...and the core of the game they are trying to get you to play and the story that is trying to unfold.

Even games like Red Faction or as DeadlyFire pointed to his list:
Star Wars: Force Unleashed
KILLZONE 2
Far Cry 2
BattleField: Bad Company(consoles)/BF 3(PC)
Fracture
Mercinaries 2: World in Flames
SOCOM: Confrontation

NONE of these games will have 100% destructible enviornments. You can blow chunks off of pilars, you can blow holes in walls and / or blow up certain buildings...but there will always be things you cant blow up..things that are needed to be there for the story line to progress, etc..

I will be curious to see Battlefield: Bad Company as that is the closest thing so far I have seen to being complete destruction...but even that...the frames of the buildings will stay intact and certain things like sandbags may not blow up if shot, etc...

Games need structure regardless of how open we want them to be...and that includes destructible items/scenery.

pardon the pun.

but you will see more ps3 games in the future have destructable backgrounds.sony is not testing the destructable waters for nothing.

1)motorstorm cars break up all over the place.

2)heavenly swords enemy catapults blow up all over the place when i smash them with cannon balls.

3)things in uncharted's backgrounds explode by grenades.

4)downloadable games like pain from psn have destruction all over.

if anything,sony is leading the charge by experimenting with A.I.,physics,lighting,raytraci ng,deffered rendering,objects on screen,animation,virtual actors,etc.

if you want to see this stuff,look towards present and future ps3 games.i'd bet 8 days will have that gas station explode with a bang.and killzone will have it too.i'd bet resistance 2 will also.

megaton...............boy a nuclear blast in a game in realtime would be awsome.

Dual-wielding in this video looks like a mess...he's flailing his arms around the whole time and doing weird things.

was this guy serious that killing day doesnt look that great? that wouldve been by far the best looking shooter ever, even better than killzone, and a crysis and farcry 2 wouldve been put to silence, this guy needs some working eyes, the game looked highly like cgi, they thought this very game was prerendered, this guys eyes are non-functioning whenever he wrote this.

That Killing Day game was cancelled years ago.

I remember a part with a stome bridge over a huge chasm, where there was a huge tank and some troops walking acroos. I had some rockets so I shot the bridge on both sides and the tank fell to its death. Making tunnels in multiplayer with a friend was reallly fun too. Iv always been waiting for a game like this again.

As was mentioned before, you can always get around some of the challenges brought by including destructible environments.

I just want to see a developer take more aggressive steps to using DE. A lot of what we've seen has been nothing more than breakable objects place in a static environment. The cover you can take in games like Drakes Fortune, the walls you can shoot through in COD4, the light poles in Warhawk. All are individual objects to increase an illusion. Now I know that games will probably never be 100% DE, but they don't have to be. As long as it's within reason, I'll be happy.

For example: If an object is of extreme significance to the game, you could have it locked up in a type of bomb shelter. Something that's built to take a massive impact and looks like it should. That makes sense. A simple wooden door getting hit by a grenade and still standing with nothing but a black mark on it is not realistic. Isn't the ultimate point of FPS's to achieve some form of realism?

Pain is definitely an example of excellent level design where things should be going. It looks so simple, but when you start experimenting and playing around, you can do SO many things. It has a lot of Destructible Objects (A LOT), but you still can't touch the walls of a building or roof tops. Think of how much more interesting that game could be if you smashed through the roof of a building to see a dude sitting on his couch watching TV.

Red Faction was such an under-rated game. It was years ahead of its time and didn't get as much recognition as it deserved. Digging tunnels on that game was just so much fun.

Oh, and AJ, thank you for telling me that. I really hadn't heard it