"“I think the pipeline is very stacked. You just don’t know about it,” Kim laughed coyly."

Is the most important thing.

In 2007, and at the last few conferences, MS was very clear; "We want to talk about what you can play *now* or *very shortly*." They have made this their operating behaviour.

Its the beginning of FEBUARY. A very slow period of commerce for the whole retail industry. Why fire off all your guns and give away your secrets when people cannot get out and *buy* these products?

You're wasting your free-press, putting water-on-your-powder so to speak.

MS hasnt even BEGUN to talk about what is going to ship in 2008. I mean almost nothing has been said. People talk about the lack of games, that's nonsense, its clear they arent going to just give up after their stellar start.

We are going to learn more beginning at GDC. Personally, I hope its a XNA blade of some kind...

Expect rhetoric and anti MSFT stuff working its way out of the woodwork as the nervous and angry bite their nails approching these Game Shows(hoping for the worst).

Dude doesn't have to say anything, some huge multi plat games are comming out this year they've got online additions to announce, they got two halo games on the way they have huge but not talked about games comming out this year. I think the line-up this year is better than last year if you ask me. They got many high production valued games in a very diverse genre line-up vs last year which I don't really like Tactical shooters much nor FPS's.

The 360 peaked the first day it was released......AAHAHHAHAHA

Sony are losing their exclusives thanks for for Ace Combat 6, Ridge Racer and the lovely Devil May Cry 4 which I have been playing on my Xbox 360! This year Microsoft has far more games to offer than Sony and ones that are much more well known and from huge studios.

No...actually November 7, 2006 was w/ Gears of War (which is still the system's bellweather game) --

Plus, it's hard for Kim to say ((nothing)) to an overall, rhetorical question.

well they need to say something quickly.. THE fans and media are TURNING on them.. Being quiet about things never helped anyone in gaming.. look what happened to the gamecube and theyre no hype policy.. 360 fans need somethin to get excited over.. not showing games loses current fans and people on the gates waiting.. if it seems dull they will invest theyre cash in more exciting systems.. so basically staying quiet is a bad move

“I think the pipeline is very stacked. You just don’t know about it,” Kim laughed coyly.

That's good news. Now, they just need to start making some of this pipeline known to the rest of us. The 360 brand seems to be suffering from some momentum loss.

so many fools really think, there will just 1 console or some other delusional logic. Never realizing what the benefits of what competition brings.

It's all about "Market-Share". MS has known this from the start, if they can make a "splash" and stick around, eventually their console will strengthen it's base, as well as it's lineup.

Sony + Nintendo have been leaders of the Industry, Ms just wants a piece of the Pie.

IMHO, the 360 will do better than Original Xbox, which was cut early in vain. Plus what you expect this guy to say...

after all the wars ive been in on this site.. that was the smartest thing ive heard in awhile.. just a piece of the pie.. maybe stickin around this gen and hangin wit the big boys is all they needed after all..

with all seriousness they need 2 open up 2 the public about theyre games.. if they have any

I dunno if MS has anything under their sleeves for 2008 but for what ive seen so far the lineup that MS had for 2007 murders the lineup that they have for 2008. Halo 3 (360 flagship title)+ Mass Effect+ Forza 2+ PGR4+ Bioshock = Killer lineup

stupid shane betanhousen.(w/e) he said kim was retiring back with the marvel mmo canceled rumor. obviously it wasnt true

“I think the pipeline is very stacked. You just don’t know about it,” Kim laughed coyly.

I think that says enough. And it says alot about there stategy last year ''we are focusing on 2007''.

Peaked after two years? It is to laugh. I'm sure there are many games we don't know about just like how we don't know about half the other games coming out on Wii and PS3. We know they are there and being made they just don't want to talk about it to ruin the suprise. It's hard to keep hype going for a full year let alone 2. Geez people you only look at what's in front of you and not what isn't being said.

these articles are tryin to see too far ahead, sure the 360 had a fantastic lineup last year, but it's only the 3rd year of life.
after all just like the 360, the ps3 is due for a killer llineup in it's second year, and though the 360 lineup is not as good as it was last year, it's till pretty good considering what sony is about to drop in 08
so i dont think its accurate to call a console's best lineup when it has only been out a couple of years, we'll have to wait and see what MS does for the 360 in upcoming years

Well I think 2007 was MS's peak in software titles.
EDIt: actually I take that back, because you really can't tell, but the thing is it does'nt really matter as long as the Ps3 has a decent lineup it can outsell the xbox360.

I'm guessing you are saying that Ms is just faking that they have no titles in 2008 just to make one big suprise.

Well, have you ever stopped and wondered that it really does'nt matter how many games ms has in 2008?

Do you know that the Ps3 outsold the xbox360 in 2007 worldwide and that was against halo3,bioshock, and mass effect? The ps3 had no games to compete against halo3 or even scratch a lil bit of it's hype.

Now, ask yourself one thing:

Since the Ps3 outsold the xbox360 in 2007 with a rough launch, no big titles, and facing halo3(the xbox360's most popular franchise) then what do u think will happen in 2008 where the Ps3 seems to have SO FAR the best lineup out of the three consoles?

Does it matter if the xbox360 has gears of war 2 to steal the mgs4 thunder?

No, cause the ps3 can outsell the xbox360 with no games and facing big AAA titles, imagine with big titles.

Shane and most of you guys are missing a big point here, and u will realize that later on, like the ps1, and the ps2.

Ms has a SUPRISE IN 2008? WELL SO DOES SONY.

this is lame as console dont really get worse as there are always the same games that already came out, and the prices of those games and hardware get cheaper. As long as there is ONE(yup only OnE) game that comes out this year the 360 is a better buy to new consumers than it was the previous year. And in microsofts case it is better this year as hoefully the newer 360 models are more reliable(I hope as mine is hdmi premiunm, not broken yet). There will also b much more third party support for 36o than the xbox1 as the sofftware sales are pretty fing huge. Sooo many games have sold 1,2,3 million in the us alone. I mean even kane and lynch sold over 500k in us. I think its becoming kknown to developers that if you they release an above average 360 game in the us you are almost guarenteed close to a million sales, in some cases much more. I Even think there will be more hardware sales as soon there will be price drop and last years games are still new to new owners. With that said I dont see the 360 doing any worse in 2008 as it could only stop, and be the same not worse, for us current owners. For people looking to "jump in" it can only start too look better, unless there is now more thatn 30% failure. For microsoft, I dont really care as theire rich.

You know what, MS have a vitory, the 360 is way more stablished in it's third year than original XB ever was.

But that is it, MS will have no more than that. They sold way more 360s in 2006 than in 2007, they put all the big guns out in 2007 and still got ousold by Wii and PS3... You can't just excpect to see they making that again in 2008 and getting more market share with competition, and 2009 can be too late for a 'losing' format.

But that isn't that much bad news for MS. You know what, MS will not be in first, and for sure will not peak as 2007 again (at least not this year) but you for sure will have your 360 support as wished, you'll not see the PS2-like dominance from last gen on any console, getting most good games everywhere and all big 3 shall make a profit. Losing this gen will be relative: we'll have a first placed champ seller, but 2 losing platforms? I don't think so.

What if 5 years from now all 360's are wiped out from their enevitible faults? And PS3 are still producing high end software ?
Then there would be PS2 style dominance wouldn't there ?
This is not really far fetched either. I hope my 360 is still working then but right now with the noises it makes it certainly does not inspire confidence

Peak? what peak?

the only thing xbug 1.5 peak was a 2 inch mount of dog poop lols.

and PS3 just like PS1,PS2 and PSP will peak the mount Everest.

Sony wins again.

I would say that yes, the 360 has peaked. I am in no way getting rid of mine, but I just don't feel like I am looking foward to anything on the console anymore. I don't even know what to look foward to. And since when does a company say "there is a ton of stuff to look foward to, you just don't know about it". That's dumb. Don't you want to flaunt what you got?

If MS want to continue to remain competitive they must attract new gamers outside of the hardcore segement of the market.

So far casual games (Wii) and new IPs like Gears/Resistance are the titles really moving consoles.

Big name franchises like Mario Galaxy and Halo 3 are not doing as much for HW sales. For example, I couldn't believe that the MC charts showed that Smash sold over 800k, but only managed to move 100k Wiis. Nobody sees the trend?

Personally I'm going to wait and see what MGS (hype) and GTA IV (system seller) are going to do. If those games don't move HW I guess we'll have to wait until Gears 2/R2/Wiiware.

2007 was the best lineup ever for the Xbox 360, and it looks like this year is going to be on the mediocre side in comparison. I mean come on, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Forza, Crackdown, Project Gotham, and Bioshock? It's really hard to beat that.

Microsoft is thus probably very nervous about their current situation since the PS3 outsold the 360 by over a million units last year, despite having a much smaller software lineup and a much higher console price. With Sony having the dominant software lineup and an equal price point between the PS3 and 360, there's little doubt that Sony will be able to nearly eliminate the gap in total installed units by the end of 2008.

Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, Splinter Cell Conviction, Halo Wars, Too Human, and possibly Gears of War 2 and a bunch of other "secret" titles coming out will definitely make 2008 just as good as 2007. Currently the 360 has an equal or better lineup than the ps3 for 2008. MGS and GT are the only 2 beasts that the ps3 has this year. FF will probably come out in early 2009.

No worries on the 360 side.

they better *NOT have peaked!

considering that out of all the "killer" titles released on the 360, i only enjoyed Mass Effect and Bioshock, the 360 better not have peaked last year. sure, i'm looking forward to Fable 2, Too Human, and Alan Wake, but i don't know about anything *ELSE hitting the 360 (besides Ninja Gaiden 2, which i'm still undecided about).

i mean, people got on Sony's case for constantly showing future titles, but that's what gaming is all about, constantly being excited and looking forward to something *NEW.

i mean, how much more backwards looking can 360 owners DO? all we still hear about is Gears of War, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3. those ships have sailed, what else have you got MS.

in the meantime, PS3 owners have enjoyed their fair share of quality titles (Resistance, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, etc), but we also *KNOW a few titles to grace the console this year (Killzone 2, GT5, MGS4, FFXIII, White Knight Story, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, Heavy Rain, LA Noire, Infamous, etc).

i mean, all this mystery from Microsoft isn't drumming up hype, it's troubling to me. that doesn't mean that they *DON'T have anything to show, just that they need to get a move on, *FAST.

i *WANT to have something more than three games to look forward to this year coming from the MS camp. my PS3 plate is *FULL (as in, while i *WANT them to announce new titles, i don't think my wallet can sustain it if they all release *THIS year. i'm barely able to afford the games i mentioned a few paragraphs up), so i'm looking to fill my MS plate, and the three games on my list aren't enough.

i love RPGs. i love action/adventure games. i'm burned out on shooters, so no thanks there (Killzone 2 and Resistance 2 will probably be the last two shooters i buy for, at *LEAST a year). i'm not a big fan of console RTSes so Halo Wars and that other one hitting the 360 this year don't do it for me (though i admit, i might give Civilization a try...on my PS3).

i want MS to wow us at GDC, considering that Sony doesn't have any press conferences, and all i care about is more info on the games they *HAVE announced for this year (ie, Heavy Rain, LA Noire, Infamous, etc).

i don't think the 360 has peaked at all, but i do think MS needs to change tactics, and start to show off more software. last year was great for the console (for all 3 consoles, actually), but i wouldn't be surprised that the more MS keeps things close to the vest (like Sony used to do), the more their fanbase may become worried, and start looking across the street at all the PS3 fans who can't stop talking about the great games releasing this year.

not only do the surprise games they announce at GDC have to be compelling, but they *NEED to deviate from the hardcore shooter-fest the console is known for. they need a Little Big Planet, an Echocrome, and a Playstation Home to stir interest in the console beyond the Halo, Gears of War, Mass Effect, Bioshock demographic. that's just common logic.

needless to say, i'm expecting an eye-opening GDC this year. i'm really looking forward to it.

i dont think so

First Peter Moore got away. Then Bizarre. Then Bungie.

Who's left? Rare? Microsoft better get out the checkbook and suck every third party developer off fast and hard.

2008 A.D. = 1 A.H. (After Halo) lol