One of the best articles i've read on this. The viewpoint was ever so slightly skewed but even then he makes some really good points and I have to agree with him on mostly everything. Simply put the console war is nowhere over so stop with the doomsday talk fanboys.

An intelligent article. Couple of my mates bought wii but all they play is wii sports so they can kik my ass when i go rnd hehe

This yr will be big for PS3 no doubt.

"Microsoft has successfully made the Xbox line a permanent part of the gaming industry. If the 360 had flopped, the original Xbox could have been looked back upon as a mere flash in the pan. Rather, the 360 is more dominant than its predecessor and plays a pivotal role in Microsoft's larger strategy moving forward. With the era of Windows-monopolized computing drawing to a close and its venerable Office suite under constant attack by competitors, Microsoft desperately needs to establish itself as the number one entity in a new industry.

We saw the signs of this again with their acquisition announcement of Yahoo last week. Microsoft needs to succeed in the console space because that is their way of moving from the desktop into the consumer electronics area. The Zune has been a dud, but the 360 shows promise. Even if the 360 continues to be a loss leader (although it seems to have finally begin showing signs of profit potential), it's an important investment in Microsoft's future."

Cldnt agree more.

I agree with some of the points he made besides the fact that he took NPD data for all units. So yes, xbox 360 took north america in 2007, but not the world. NPD numbers just fit his theory better and that is why they were used.

I do agree that the attachment rate for 360 is the best, however, pound for pound (ratio) PS3 is putting up the right numbers to justify their case as well. I think wii is being destroyed in the category right?

All in all, i have to give the author credit for writing on a 360 website about the future looking good for PS3.

tells you something...

"Few would argue that the Xbox 360's sales have been lackluster, so having a high attach rate is a sign that customers aren't simply buying their 360s for one game (say, Halo 3) and then putting them away. "

I think it's,fare to say Sony will gain some steam with some big titles coming out in 2008, and Wii will continue to sell based on it's price point. What I don't understand is why fanboys suggest Halo 3 was the only reason why any gamer would buy he 360. When the Facts speak for themselves.

Like it or not, there will be no True "Winner" in this Gen because each console offers a little of what the other does not. No!!! the Market-Share will not be split 33% amongst all three but no console is going to the early "Grave".

Obviously this guy likes his Xbox 360 but, he has some good points...You cannot just look at just "Hardware Sales" and give Nintendo the crown.

*Hardware/
*Software/
*Peripherals/
*Accessories/
*Network subscriptions/
*Content sold/

All count towards "End of the Year" Success of each console. MS did very well in 2007 and if they continue to bring out good games, Of course they will sell..but this will be Sony's year "if they can play their cards right." I'm still shaky about Nintendo's Game library.

Hmmm..not the worst article I've ever read, but when a console in its second year sells less than it did in its first and is outsold by both its rivals, its hard to make the case for it 'winning'. Nonetehless, he made a valiant attempt, and convieniently stuck with figures based purely on US sales, as any attempt to look outside that market would not have helped his case.
His arguments on attach rate also fall flat- if you look at attach rates for each and every week of data, even in the US, the PS3 has had a higher attch rate for the last 10 weeks - not by a lot in the states, but the fact remians that right now, the average PS3 owner is buying more games for their system than the average 360 user. I've been suprised by that figure, but maybe with all the brilliant titles that were avialbale for us to buy last year, those of with 360's have run out of games money for the moment!! :)

So a pretty well written article, but you can see where he' tried to 'apoaer of the cracks' in his arguments..:)

Sucks

if i figure 8.8 mil. ps3's at 400 bucks (lowest cost avail.) that equals like 3.52 billion, this does not include anything else just consoles in 2008. I don't know about any of the other figures but since this one is suspect i thisn kthey are all inaccurate.

The article in general is good, bhut with accurate figures, the result may be different. (example, subtract a billion from microsoft for rrod)

The 360 been doing amazingly in SW sales, but this year should be interesting since the Wii and PS3 SW are also gaining steam.

Sony only SHIPPED more consoles then the 360 the 360 sold more through to retailers...

I own more games for the 360 than I have ever owned for the Pc, n64, dreamcast, and snes at one time. I want an Iphone but I LOVE my ZUNE it is a permanent fixture in my Dodge Charger alot of people on my campus own zunes.

http://www.cardomain.com/ri...

well, that site is called 360.kombo after all

very well written article, and made some very good points

PS3 sold more, Wii sold more... they're still losing money and are on a 6 billion dollar hole they gotta get out off, there is still RROD, their game line-up isn't really all that (ask japan and europe), the HD-DVD add-on has become completely useless, the HDD, WiFi and other add-ons are horribly expensive, they have yet to lure in a more casual audience, and it's still expensive especially for what it offers. I can only give them some "achievements" credit in their attach rate, but aside from attach rates.

sure it won,
most complaints, most phone calls to the local Fire Department, most likely to be defective, highest failure rate, dumbest fanboys, most corporate bosses to jump ship in the shortest period of time, most ignored in a single territory, loudest, biggest gluton of electricity, largest amount of money spent on warranties...need I continue?

When you say which console has won, not really sure there is going to be a clear cut winner as KewlKat said like you had with the PS2. That makes it better all around for the consumer as it keeps Sony/Nintendo/MS on their toes.

If as the article says the 360 is the '07 winner, doesn't necessarily mean MS was the '07 winner as they had to take a 1 billion dollar hit for faulty hardware.

plain dumb.

The PS3 sold more than the xbox360 in 2007, and if it actually did'nt then it just about tied with it even though the xbox360 had halo3 ,bioshock,etc.

Who's winning now? The console with all the games gets beaten by a console that has been bashed by the media and has no games.

The wii? The wii is doing better than all consoles, even with the xbox360's headstart the wii sold more total.

people are saying this article is nice, well the person who wrote the article REALLY KNOWS HOW TO SPIN THINGS.

With the wii doing way better, the ps3 in 2008 with promising titles, and the xbox360 not doing well even with all the major games,

I predict Wii for 1st, ps3 for 2nd, xbox360 in 3rd by 2009.

And I agree Ms has done alot for this industry, BUT HECK ANY COMPANY WOULD CONTRIBUTE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

jeez, if apple arrived then it would contribute in some ways.

For Me, Sony has raised the bar for quality gaming, Ms has raised the bar for the games, and nintendo has just raised the bar for innovation.

You know... that is a great way to look at this so called "Console War."

I really liked that article. It puts many things in perspective. I'm actually really excited to see what Sony brings to us this year.

I'm really hoping the PS3 will blossom this year.

geeeezus, i haven't seen this much BS spin since Bill Clinton was explaining why an intern was under his desk.

This article is pretty much skew toward XBOX 360.
While I admit XBOX 360 won, but so did Nintendo and surprise surprise Sony too. Everybody making profit.

XBOX 360 won by software and early start that put them in Black. Nintendo won by gainning the most ground, their first party software is selling like crazy, Yes more than HALO. If you look at HALO sales, it just one big rush and then steep decline, but Nintendo's first party like Wii sports are still mounting and mounting. Sony also won despite expected underperforming and constant bash by media, they still prevail and be able to outsell XBOX 360 in 2007 in hardware, and most remarkably put them in back in black in one year.

My point is everybody won 2007, one can just take a few point and start going into detail to proof his/her console's triumph.

I won 2007 muhaha :)

At least u know your 360 is great multi purpose device. After the infamous ring of death appears then the x360 turns into a valued floor heater threw those long lonely cold winter nights. Not a bad investment after all:)

I don't think you can say they won anything. As much as I like my 360, I think that 2008 is the year of the ps3. As far as consoles go, I am a graphics nut and the wi just can't do anything in that department. Sorry nintendo, your console won the most underpowered last generation, cruddy software lineup award. I mean one can only play so much wi sports. What other games you have? You also win for having the cheapest console.

360 winning is a joke compared to the accomplishment of the wii.
Almost 20 million in 1 year.
6 more years it'll catch up to PS2.

360 about 7 - 8 million a year for 2 years.
Wii sold 2x as much in 1.

Software sold or not Nintendo made the most money this year anyways.

Shiet I hate the wii as a console but damn it's doing good.

here comes the x360 fanboys.. with their own nonsense article.. yeah the wii beat that garbage system in one year in sales.. by the end of the year beat it in software sells as well...the wii has games for everyone , while all microsoft offer are shooters...and the wii is preparing to do damage to both systems in 08 that both sony and microsoft will not be able to recover from.

High attach rates can occur on declining hardware sales. If HW sales slow down, you can still see an uptick in software sales by existing owners purchasing software at discounted prices (ever wonder why the Marvel: Ultimate Aliance sold so well).

Does attach rates also includes sales of XBLA arcade titles? Attach rates are meaningless this generation if you include downloadable content. Attach rates are geared toward retail. Anyone know the answer?

I also attribute the high attach rate due to an appetite for high gamer scores (which mean nothing in the real or online world).

Total revenue argument is weak. Look at net profit, not gross revenue. There are other factors that the author conveniently forgot like the 1.2 billion dollar hit due to RROD. What offsets that?

Cash Register Ring = win! That's the bottom line. 2007 might be won in the minds of individuals but Nintendo won on paper.

but the same could be said about exclusives 360/pc exclusive to 360???

That's one up for freedom of "intelligence to roam around freely without having to worry about idiotic, fanboy comments". Delicious, I love spam on my sandwich.

edit:

one can't be too hopeful now...

Great article but I hardly think Microsoft won 2007. The gamers won and are still winning. Microsoft didn't win because of RROD, Sony had pricing problems and a lack of good games, Nintendo had a problem that happend, only because their product is so popular. As a matter of fact, it's still happening, they're sold out, constantly. I think by default, Nintendo wins 2007 and that's going against any BLOG SITE that thinks otherwise.

If you want to compare sales, the Nintendo Wii won. However, if you're comparing video game titles compared to the other systems, 2007 was THE year of the Xbox 360, no doubt.

I love the gamer zone, fanboys can shove it, great job mods, I actually enjoyed reading the comments for the first time in a while.

and yet we still have jackasses fighting over this stuff.

Poor babies, I guess enjoying something on your own isn't enough, you just NEED to prove other opinions wrong, eh?

Put it this way, if the Wii was your console of choice in '07, nobody, not even GOD can tell you that you're wrong.

These idiots are just hopeless.

first its about sales then its about other stuff !
yay lets get more useless and tell people what they should buy and play >_>
idiots!

What a funny title. Stinks of desparation. Didn't XB come last?

You know what, all those things might matter to publishers and stockholders, but it means nothing to the consumer.

Does the winner of a marathon get credit because he drank less cups of water? Because he won a particular stage of the event? Because he has the most sponsors? No, all that matter is who came first.

Can anyone tell me without looking it up how many games each console sold last gen? What were their attach rates? How much revenue did they generate? How much profit? How many 3rd party games on each machine?

No one can answer ANY of these questions off the top of their head (except maybe, how much profit XB made, that ones easy.)

Sorry the only thing anyone remembers is HOW MANY HARDWARE UNITS WERE SOLD. Thats how you choose your winner. Thats why people say Gamecube lost and XB scraped into 2nd. Thats why every Playstation had won its generation (PSP not included). And thats why M$ will probably likely drop 360 just before they are caught in overall numbers by PS3 and move on to XB3. Once its apparent they cant win, they try to get the jump on the next race. Oh sh*t, thats what they mean by Jump In.

xbox360 website ummmmm id rather not i bet it mentions that it has more games out than the other to yet came in last i bet it says how halo 3 was the biggest event in history yet gears of war shifted more 360s than halo?

360 won in America not around the world!
PS3 owns everywhere else and is so close to outselling the Wii so yeah this article is inaccurate.
PS3 will own once again starting this year and by 2010 Sony will takeover after already killing the 360 they are after to overtake the Wii next.

And why should i care why Microsoft has made such revenus....

Lol. DSlite won 2007.

the name of the console explains it all

if anything, it was because of the YEAR LONG head start it had on the competition...

other than that, I disagree completely...

360kombo.com? Yessir... that sounds like an unbiased site, all right...

Console wars have ALWAYS been about who sold more consoles.. i give him props for commin up with that great story.. but after all the small talk, the Wii is winning.. and deep down he seems alittle angry his system has not sold more.. that is all

Nintendo sold 14 mln Wii during 9 month. It is official
Nintendo sold 17 mln Wii during 12 month.
And 113 mln games according to the reports.
MS sold about 7 mln XBOX + 50 mln games(attach rate 7) + some money from online service.

Im tired of people talking about 2007. Yeah the 360 had a pretty good year but the fact is it was only 1 year. Great consoles has multiple years of sucess and offer gamers a diverse library of games not just FPS. All the games that were praised in 07 on 360 were FPS, bioshock, halo 3, ect. 2007 was the 360 best and only year in the spotlight now its on the decline and I don't see it making it past 2009

PS3 FTW!!!!!