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BBC: PS3, Glass half full or empty?

BBC tech writer Darren Waters discusses the disparity between Sony lowering their PlayStation 3 sales forecast, and their game division's first profit for two years.

"First, the good news: Sony's games division has made the first profit in two years. Here's the bad news: Sony is cutting its sales goal for PS3 to 9.5 million units for the year from 11 million. So is PS3 succeeding or not?"

niall776664d ago (Edited 6664d ago )

and sony will use it as a PR boost saying "wow look how good we did, we beat are 9.5mil target"

atleast they didnt over do it like when MS said the 360 would sell 14 million in its first year

fenderputty6664d ago

If they're finally turning a profit on the system, that means we're that much closer to another price drop. Not to mention the fact that sales are holding steady through a usually tough month. Things aren't looking bleek like a lot of poeple were trying to claim last year. I can't believe how many people said the PS3 was going to fail. In a matter of a year the PS3 has caught up to and surpassed the pace of the 360. Great games and lowering the price to reasonable levels are only going to help Sony continue this momentum.

WilliamRLBaker6664d ago

It got off 2 generations of having 100m+ console sales and within its first year it couldn't even break the 10m barrier and nearly all of its most wanted games have been delayed and all the games before that we're scored low and sold low, it has a total of what 4 1 million sellers all of which took how long to sell that many? 3-5 months?

Meus Renaissance6664d ago

Sales predictions have been dropped because Sony made the mistake of assuming they could "educate" the consumers to shell out a heck load of cash for the platform. They realised this and dropped the price 4 months ago - of which now the console is selling decently well, and very well in Europe.

Where would it have been in total sales if it launched at $399? It was selling at a premium of $500 for almost an entire year, so its total first year sales considering it hasn't had one if recognised franchise titles launch, is acceptable to Sony and certainly impressive as a whole. But if you look at its brand, then you are justified with your criticism.

We can only look towards the future now, and how Sony will do in 2008 with a strong software lineup and possible price cut later in the year. They need to sell bucket loads of consoles - and the industry will start to put the spotlight on it when titles like MGS4 and GTA4 are released.

It's a make or break year. But I don't think its fair, from the point of view of the PS3's potential and future, to judge it on its sales performance up till now for the reasons in my first paragraph.

DaCandyman6664d ago (Edited 6664d ago )

This is bound to happen. MGS4, Killzone 2, LBP, and Resistence 2 will help the push over 9.5.

And with those titles releasing they may not need a pricedrop. Maybe a bargain (PS3 120G bundled w/ LBP & DualShock3)

rawg6664d ago

If things don't turn out as bad as predicted then everyone will be happy.

I'm of the opinion that a recession will actually help console sales, as more people will stay in to save money then blow a few hundy every weekend going out.

The Brave 16664d ago

PS3 is almost at 10million worldwide according to vg chartz.there is still 2 full months left till march 31.Ps3 will meet its goal of 11 million worlwide by march 31st.

fenderputty6664d ago

"It got off 2 generations of having 100m+ console sales and within its first year it couldn't even break the 10m barrier and nearly all of its most wanted games have been delayed and all the games before that we're scored low and sold low, it has a total of what 4 1 million sellers all of which took how long to sell that many? 3-5 months? "

Firstly .. it's on pace with the PS2 and the 360's frist year sales. Secondly ... not all games scored low, there just weren't a bunch of AAA titles. The only real dissapointment was LAIR. The delayed games have been pushed back to a year in which the PS3 is gaining steam. With another price cut, those pushed back game might be more of a good thing then a bad thing. Lastly, pull your head out of MS's arss and post in the other section where you belong.

zambrota6663d ago

ps3 has beaten the x360 in terms of first year sales (same time in the lifetimes of both consoles).

x360 sold 8.3 million consoles at the same time of its lifetime.

PS3 has been comforatably beating x360 for the past few months in terms of worldwide sales.

How long did x360 take to sell 10m units to CUSTOMERS?

sometime in March ,2007.

ps3 will easily reach 10m sales sometime in february ,2008 (a month before x360)

also dont forget that ps3 has the best lineup for 2008

WilliamRLBaker6663d ago (Edited 6663d ago )

Lets see what was the common attitude among certain groups upon ps3s launch....Total domination of sales with atleast the total obliteration in sales scores of all competitors...hmmmm

What was the common attitude of all games released on this said system when compared to other systems in terms of scores, and sales?

What was the common thread with the online service?

here is the games via gamerankings.com

http://www.gamerankings.com...
^ hope that search works for ya

3 games via gamerankings have received an avg ratio of 9.0 all of which are....multiplatform titles...

The system via VGchartz has only sold 9.62m and those are sold through to users because who knows what numbers sony uses oh they say sold to users but we all know its shipped.

lets see via vgchartz again 7 games in its year and 3-4 month life span that Certain system have sold 1m+ sales....most of which took up to 1-4 months if not longer to reach that sales mark....

hmmmmm so yes...the common thread was....hyped to hell it will destroy all competitors upon release all of its games will garner AAA scores and all of its games will sell massively, its online service will be the bee's knee's and will see massive sign up....that certain system with the 9m+ sales only has last count 3 million users...

Oh and last i checked you had no power here, I can post any where I want what I've posted follows the TOS but I would say people like you whom continue to tell others to post in the other zone are...breaking the TOS by telling them thus, you have no right and you certainly aren't better then me infact last I checked your worse then me....Because unlike you, i actually own all 3 current gen systems, and I actually play most of the games you talk about and dont play.

There is an ignore option if you dont like it then deal with it.

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Lucreto6664d ago

There is a problem with analysts there will be another who will say the opposite of what it says here.

9.5 million is very good as some here said it won't even make 7 million.

ravinash6664d ago

Some here are still saying its not past 7 million.

Maldread6664d ago

I just need a price drop and i`m buying a PS3 Sony ;)

From the article : "I don't believe titles like Haze or Metal Gear Solid 4 will shift that many more PS3s. But I do think Blu-ray's impact will begin to bite Microsoft."

Well, if MGS4 comes out before a price drop (don`t think it will, but...)i`ll buy it anyways, so the author is wrong in my case at least ;)

rawg6664d ago

I didn't bother looking up his credentials and just wrote him off as someone regurgitating gaming rhetoric to get hits from search engines.

coolfool6664d ago (Edited 6664d ago )

Yes that doesn't mean he comes and visits gaming websites but it does mean he has an influenced/educated opinion on the market. Whether he is right or if you agree with him is a completely different matter.

His comment about MGS4 is probably a relative one. I think he means that MGS4 won't shift consoles in the same way as the fact that the PS3 can play bluray movies.

I personally disagree with him. I think titles like MGS will shift a heapload of consoles, maybe not to the casual user who would pick up the PS3 for the bluray, but to the gamers who still are playing their ps2 and haven't quite had enough of a reason to get the ps3 so far. And there are potentially millions of those.

Maldread6663d ago

rawg - hehe yeah i think you`re right on that one ;)

coolfool - MGS isn`t for every one, but i agree, it will do well for itself and the PS3 ;)

I don`t really know if i think that many people are buying the PS3 for only the Blu-ray. I think people just discover it as an added bonus and that the PS3 price drop is the real reason for the PS3`s gaining momentum. Of course it can`t hurt that Blu-Ray is doing well also, but i`m not sure enough people have heard about it yet, believe it or not ;)

MikeGdaGod6664d ago

if they sell 9.5 mil, thats way better than 11 mil shipped

mintaro6664d ago (Edited 6664d ago )

one price drop to rule them all..... as for me, if the price dropped i'd buy a PS3 in a heartbeat, hopfully the ceramic white one

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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-Foxtrot1d 14h ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle1d 6h ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk771d 3h ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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italiangamer10d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde8d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy8d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand1258d ago (Edited 8d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

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Relientk779d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga9d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer19929d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga8d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman8d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger9d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box9d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion8d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv729d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent759d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit9d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz1499d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning779d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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