Dude who produce's HDD's says Downloads are the future.... hmmm wonder why...? remind me, what do you store your downloads on? oooh hold on a minute....

i take a disc over a download till the day i die.

Obviously he's an HD DVD supporter / owner.

Boring!

As long as my storage capacity and my connection speed can't handle 50 GB movies I'll stay do the discs. And it will probably stay that way for a long time.

Most people in the UK get no more than 2MB to the door. Even thought they get told they get up to 8MB. Anythime after 5 till 12 at night 90% of the ISP's CAP there connection.

So this will not happen for at least 10 years in the UK.

There is no chance DD will rule within the next 5-7 years.

Im a huge supported of physical storage for Entertainment Products since i really dislike the fact of only owning something digital, and seeing just looking at my friends family and colleagues i know no one who would actually rather download a movie (payment) then buying the disc and beeing able to watch it whenever where ever they want.

the problem with DD still is DRM and i totally disagree to pay for a movie THEN download it wich will take some time and then beeing forced to delete the movie within 30 days or beeing forced to backup it to my own bought discs.

Sorry fellow harddrive manufactures but ill stick to bluray for at least 5-6 years from now on, and where talking bout movies and games, and seeing bluray supporting up to 100gb and movies beeing able to have up tp 4+ hours of full hd media i see no reason for any further improvement in videoquality for quite some time

@ above

yes i really dont know how companys think people will download 35gb or more of data for a movie with takes AGES for the avaerage joe since not everyone is willing to pay 40€+ for a superpast connection, and seeing isp's rolling back theyre flatrates because of the huge amount of data people download nowadays sorry DD looses if its about the massmarket and the average movie guy

"i take a disc over a download till the day i die."
mighty douche quote

Digital download services will find a niche market, but they will not be the standard consumer choice around the world for quality films, for at least 10 years yet.

Until most homes have extremely fast internet access, this kind of content delivery can never gain mass market acceptance. I can't comment on the US, but certainly here in the UK, theres still a huge mumber og households not even on the net and many still using dial up services. Even Broadband services in the UK are blighted by restrictive download limits and excessive 'line profiling' that seriously restricts speeds at peak times. It will be a very long time before we have a fats enough 'pipe' in every household to make this a reality.

Add to the distribution issue the kind of content being offered:-
The attraction of the disc based formats is full 1080P High Definition picture and uncompressed sound, as well as a host of extra features. Compare this with something like 'Apple TV' with its heavilly compressed 720P content, compressed sound and lack of 'extra's'. Its not even the same market!

The final nail is the lack of physical ownership. Restrictive rights that limit how many times or when you can watch a product you have bought? The inability to take it round a friends house to watch it? These are real issues that Digital Distribution has yet to solve.

There no question that at some time in the far future, digital distribution for such content will be the norm. But anyone doing a subjective analysis would have to say that that time is a long long way off yet, and a format like Blu Ray has at least a decade before it sees real competition from Digital distribution.

That is just wishful thinking at it's best. DD is a lonnnnggg way to go. Sure, download 50 movies into a hard drive at 15-30gb each, plus extras, and take how long before optical gets into the general consumers?

And then let's say DD is here, one quick power surge to your HDD and goodbye movies, you have to re-download them again.

I already download more movies/episodes/games than I can possibly play in my freetime, and I do have a lot of free-time.

Plus, keeping the movies to "watch over and over again" is such a nerd thing to do, even with loads of free space I only keep VERY rare stuff..

My speed is 500Kbps btw.. not 5Mbps..lol

With slow connection that future is far off.
Not everybody has internet either.
Everybody with internet has to have a super fast minimum speed not 5 MBPS crap.

Taking a guess but at least 50 MBPS.

I am happy with the download speed, if they use the torrent principle e.g download in packets from more than one source then the speeds will increase, I was supposed to be on 16mb but once over 10mb things slowed down so that has to be the line capacity.

How big is 300? it took bout 1.5hrs.

"As long as my storage capacity and my connection speed can't handle 50 GB movies I'll stay do the discs. And it will probably stay that way for a long time."

50gb movies are not needed, anyone who makes a 50gb film is promoting high storage falsely.

Personally, I love having something tangible that "shows" the fact i own a movie. My dvd and cd collections are my pride and joy, and even though i do use bittorrent on occaision to *ahem* sample things, i will always buy them if i feel like the material enough. A part of that, for me, is the fear that the hard drive i happen to have the material on, may suddely fail - I consider myself to be fairly technically aware, so i can only imagine what fears the less aware individuals may have of the same occurance.

As much as digital storage of movies and music is really taking off, i'm sure there are a lot of people like me who like to own the cd/dvd too, and as such i think it will be a very big change in mindset for people to put those feelings aside and embrace all their movies/tv etc being entirely intangible.

Lets say you could just have them stored in a server. You can have your movies stored in a database/hard disk on the internet and instead of downloading you can just view it from the web-browser. All you need is a user account with whoever provided the services like a microsoft partner. You can view all your tv shows and movies this way and there would not be a need to download the movies. There really isn't a need to have a disc player or a hard copy of movies if this is possible. Blue ray is good for now, but i'm pretty sure it wont last 10 years, heck it wont even make it to 5 years.

As much as I would love to live in an age of Digital Downloading being a reality...I do not. Digital Downloading of movies is an entirely different horse than music, etc... Especially when you bring into the matter of HD versions. The movie studios will never give up DRM in one form or another. This would allow one person to buy the film and just give it to all their friends or even worse..., put in online even if for a short time before getting caught. Piracy is the main hindrance behind the movie studios reluctance IMO. Also, there are not many sites where you can buy a movie to download and get it in the clear (ie...limited number of views...have to renew ownership rights...etc...) and those, from the ones I have seen are at a much lower resolution. I don't know about you, but if I am going to spend money on a movie... I want to be able to play it in HD, anytime and anywhere I am without having to pay more money for it to view it again. Discs allow that option and can be encoded easily onto your computer to take with you...which is what I do. I have my entire DVD collection backed up on my laptop. The other problem with DD's are the bandwidth problems... I would venture to say that we in the US are the most behind in this matter. I have the fastest connection possible in my area for a residential and it still can take up to 2 hours at peak times to download a HD movie. This is unacceptable if DD's are to succeed. He is probably right in the notion that DD's are going to be big in the future (and of course we will need his large HDD's to store all of them...LOL), but that is still a ways off in the future IMO.

He's absolutely right. It may take longer to get away from the old formats but sooner or later it's all going to be stored as data. The RIAA has been crying and fighting reality for years now and to a smaller extent so has the MPAA. The old school way of doing things is going away and the companies that do business that way are like horseshoe makers trying to convince the world not to buy cars. Data on a physical medium is going to be completely obsolete sooner or later.

can i easily bring my downloaded movies and content over to a friends house, so we can watch, say, Superbad together?

can i let my family or friends borrow said movies and content *WITHOUT having to hand over my hard drive (meaning that i can't watch the movies i have on my hard drive, unless i go *WITH it when i lend it to my family and friends)?

can i download movies and content faster than it would take to, i don't know, walk across the street to the video/game store next to my house, or the three blocks to the Best Buy on the corner?

can, if i wanted to, or needed to, trade in content and movies that i'm tired of for store credit, which i can in turn, use for things like more movies and content or video games?

i can't? well then, hard disc media isn't going *ANYWHERE anytime soon, so you can kindly sit down, shut the f*ck up, and count your money.

there are too many physical, and technological hurdles for digital distribution to overcome before it becomes the defacto standard for media.

technologies like Blu Ray will be necessary for at *LEAST, another 5 years or so, plenty enough for the Blu Ray folks to make @ssloads of money.

i'm not saying that i *DON'T think digital distribution will happen (i most certainly do think it will), but the majority of people that are buying content like movies, etc, aren't as tech savvy as the folks that peruse the internet everyday, going to tech sites and getting excited over things like digital distribution.

my mother is a *HUGE movie purchaser, and she barely knows how to hook up her DVD player properly. she rents movies from places like Netflix, but she's the type of person that likes to watch her movies over and over again, and she's just *NOT a tech person.

now, myself, and my nieces and nephews, sure, this stuff is for *OUR generation, but the primary market for films still is the over 40 crowd.

give it another 5-10 years, then lets talk again.

...you're flying overseas? Bring your mp3 player and maybe a portable DVD player for the flight. You grab some of the DVDs you like, and you're ready to go in 10 minutes.

...you're on a long road trip with little kids? You pop in a DVD and show them a movie to keep them occupied.

...you're in the military or a job that takes you on the road for a long period of time? You bring your favorite CD's and DVDs with you.

...when your 3-year old wants to watch "The Incredibles" RIGHT NOW! You pop in the DVD and go back to whatever you were doing.

In all these cases, physical media is needed. There will be a market for DD but the masses will demand physical media for flexibility. And where do you make your money? In the masses. Blu-ray victory meaningless? Hardly.

This is coming from a guy who makes hard drives. Nuff said

after all is said, why not download the stuff then burn it on a dvd or hddvd bluray disc to 'archive' and/or save space? that's what i would do, it's more practical.

As already precedented with music and video currently, all we will be getting is low quality files with obtrusive copy protection at ripoff prices. Doesn't the future of DD sound great?

Give me a disc any day!

they way i see it DD may not become STANDARD in the next 5 years, but blu ray wont either. do you guys know the difference between vcr to dvd vr dvd to blu ray. when dvd's first appeared, you saw a noticeable difference in the picture quality, it was smaller than a vcr tape, you DIDNT have to REWIND it like a vcr tape. an you DIDNT have to buy anything else to take advantage of it. but with blu ray or HD DVD they picture quality is great but its not a big of jump as it was from vcr to dvd, plus now you got to BUY an HD tv to take ADVANTAGE of the format, an to get the full hd 1080p experience you must buy an even more expensive tv an alot of people cant afford to do that yet. dvd with still be the standard for many more years, an who know DD just may become STANDARD before blu ray. blu ray is another OPTION like DD, but its not the standard format yet. an dont forget companies save alot of money with DD because theres no shipping,printing, broken street dates an middle men with DD so its ALL profit, an what company doesnt want profits!!

yea...the future is DD...but the future is still 10 to 15 years away, more then enough for a new format...and there are so many reasons why (i dont wanna list them) DD wont make it mainstream anytime soon for movies or games, etc.

i use Western Digital HDD XD

up yours seagate!

I think with the way HDD technology is going, it seems like TV's in the future will have built-in HDD's and Ethernet connections.

I mean as much as some cannot see the Future, "it is right upon us" since Broadband Connections are getting better and if you read this article you'll see that once you have over 20 million + people that are "Capable" you now have a "Market" which will only grow and everyone will want a piece of the Pie.

http://www.toptechnews.com/...

Good article for non-believers of where we are headed.

with the size of HDD's and internet connections speeding up. bluray or HDDVD winning is a small short term victory.

I mean DD already killed CD's, all the people saying DD won't take out discs, it's already starting. movies are not far off.

I'd be willing to bet that the number of movies downloaded(legal and not legal) and the number of movies ordered through on demand services already outpaces the number of high def discs being sold, and is likely close to the number of DVD's being sold too.

I know people will say that torrents/file sharing don't count, but let's not forget that's how mp3's started (napster anyone?) but now mp3's are a profitable business, movies are going the same route, and I think those saying it's at least 10 years away, are way off.

cheers, gotta go check on some torrents now:)

I'll give him the benefit of being correct that as the years roll on that people will eventually buy/rent more and more movies through digital download. However, I do not believe that the future will consist of families gathering around the 24" monitors of their respective PC/Apple systems.

I always felt that it was better to sit down with everyone and pop in a DVD (or in the coming years an HD media disc) and watch the movie together as a family or couple in front of the family TV in the family room.

Sure, if you have your 42" plasma hooked to your PC (which, might I point out is OVERKILL) then, yeah, take advantage of the digital download. Also, while I will say that certain cable services like OnDemand are nice and convenient when you don't want to run to the video store I just don't see that as being a viable solution considering they do not keep any sort of archived library nor do they let you keep the movies. Plus, they only last for 24 hours and what if you wanted to watch the film again the next day with someone else?

Anyways, I guess the thing I'm driving at is that no matter what person spins this however the physical optical disc will always have advantages over the digital download and ondemand services.

I, personally, prefer the luxery of owning my own physical copy of a film rather than relying on digital data (which can be lost or corrupted) or my cable services to provide me with my list of movies.

He simply says that because, duh, it's his business.

MP3 is 3MB, HD movie is 30GB! I would say DD will be mainstream after 20 years! what about that?

mmmm... I see... you undermind this guy's comments because his company makes hard drives yet you take Sony world when they make Blu-ray.

LOL... you speak of HD players adoption as if the whole world will ever adopt it, "uhh.. no because not everyone have broadband... uhhh I can imagine one of these starved african with a piece of bread on his hands and without broadband... inserting a blu-ray disc on a blu-ray player and watching movies on his 52' HD TV.

Funny but most countries you speak of the majority are lucky if they have a TV (Black and While), old color TV let alone an HD TV.... more people in the world have broadband than an HD TV.

Broadband internet is becoming a must have unlike HD TV which is just a nice thing to have.

I find it funny though too that one of the technologies implemented on these HD Drives is digital distribution of certain features... these players come enable with network cards and can connect online.

"10 to 15 years away" lol.... do your research and learn what kind of internet, memory, bandwidth, hard drives we had 1993... 15 years ago... we went from 14K modems to iternet connections of more than 10MB.... Internet speed is doubling every year... many predict that within 2-3 years people will be able to have up to 100MB... most companies already upgraded their network to fiver optics... yet... many of you expect things to stop for 15 years... yeah.. sure.. that make sense.

This guy wouldn't make any money in any format winning, of course he is going to say that downloads are the future because they make HDDs so of course they want another technology to win so that they can get into the money involved. People would want to have larger hard drives in order to be able to store all those movies and who do you think makes those hard drives? of course companies like seagate so I understand why he would make a comment like this even though I still dont feel like its a technology good enough to replace hard copies at the moment, perhaps in the next 10 years.

Not gonna happen for HD movies anytime soon now that they are trying to place caps on bandwidth usage...and people still want it in there hands

Not meaningless. Digital downloads won't replace physical movie disks for a while. There are people (such as myself) that are unwilling to buy
digital copies of movies. I prefer to have a physical copy that I own and can't be accidentally erased.

uhm... I dont think I, will be dowloading any 25GB, 50GB or 100GB blu ray movies lol. My ISP limits my downloads to 15GB. But even if I can I can only fit some 2 or three movies into my 120GB HD. But when I have movies on BLU RAY discs I can keep as many as I like

hard media is here to stay....remember: not everyonein the US has a broad band connection (even current broadband connections will take long time to d/l full hd movies), let alone the rest of the world...just for that simple reason hard media will stick around for a LONG LONG time...

sounds like sour grapes,and i personally like physical discs.

for the next 2 years it will stay phical disks
next gen concols should be able to down load games on their lets say
500gb hdd games like gears of war 3 should be able to down load.
but this will only ever likley happen if internet connection are upgraged signifcantly. by 2 days standers you would be waiting weeks.
id say 2011 is downloadable will really catch on

It is the future to download movies but i don't think is happening anytime soon a lot of people don't even have LDC's sets in there homes and don't even know what is bluray or HDDVD. We need better speeds to download movies, music even games as once said by phil he doest even know If the PS4 is going to have disc so maybe in a couple of years or not.

Of course he is going to say that. Seagate is in the business of Digital Downloads. If you go to Sony they will say the exact opposite. Its just people standing behind their brands. Although i bet he has a Blu-Ray player in his home. I for one, like to have the physical discs so i can bring them from one place to another. I don't see people adapting so well to bringing downloaded movies on their external hard drive to friends houses or on road trips. Sorry, but we are far far away from doing this. Even if the tech is there, you still have to convince people to use it. Sony is already having a hard enough time for people to convert to Blu-Ray discs. Try asking people to purchase and use something completely digital. Music is different because it downloads fast and is very portable (portable before digital music dowloads. ex. Walkman portable cd players). It was already primed for this change. The movie industry is not. We would be way far away from using it in the mainstream even if the technology is there and dowloading is faster.

he knows what everybody wants . Did he forget that half of world have no knowledge of computers . That downloading takes prescious time and space . I dont see digital download being so big as everybody is making it out to be . WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT TO WASTE THERE HARD DRIVE AND TIME , when you can go across the street and pick up a hard copy . we dont live in the jungle you know. ( the hard drive is good for games , music , and misc ) ..but wait i gut my digital download anyways blu ray to psp .

downloads are not the future anytime soon. there are still a ton of peopel still on dial up and with companies liek timewarner startign a "pay by download" type system no body is gonna want to download a large HD movie. and unless seagate finds out how to make a hard drive that will never fail, physical media is here to stay for a long time.

if you want to dedicate a medium (whether it's HDD space, FLASH space or whatever) to a movie that you want to keep for awhile, disc will still be the choice for another 10 years.

what i wonder is if people will use common storage (like a Netflix server) as their "permanent" space, so that they're effectively re-downloading the movie every time they watch it. i don't think the tubes are thick enough for that, and won't be for awhile. discs will be king until they are...(10 years?).

Maybe when solid state drives replace current hard drive technology optical discs will go the way of the do do, but for now, even current HDs aren't at capacity enough for games, movies and all the other media one would be inclined to download, not to mention unreliability. Solid State drives would fix the unreliability issue as well as the relatively slow read times of mechanical drives, but they are hardly here yet. Not next generation, but maybe the generation after and we'll see something from perhaps Nintendo. If they continue with the trend of "lesser" games they could easily afford to stick in a nice sized SS (solid state) HD into their next or next-next gen console. PS3 to rule 08.

Now, IMHO DD is way down the line for people in the UK as we have terrible line speeds coupled with inconsistent bandwidth, ISPs r struggling with peeps playing games let alone a nation dloadin 35gb movies. We have to put up with servers dropping, ISPs capping our lines at certain times of the day limited bandwidth per mnth and people who dont live in the city and cant get cable (which is a fair chunk of the uk when u look at it) have to put up with bt homehub down a normal phone line which i have so i sympathize with those who do!

People who say its rnd the corner, im srry but ur wrong, the uk needs to upgrade the speeds and the lines and thas gunna take time and money. I started of with ISDN dual 10yrs ago, even then i was gettin 70k a sec, now i get between 30-400 have we really come that far in 10yrs? Do u think in 2yrs it will go from 30-400kbs to 50mbs to the average joe bloggs?

If u do and u live in the UK i think ur dreaming.... That said like many people on this thread have said 10-15yrs possibly. At the end of the day tho, for me at least, i like my collection of dvds, i like when theres naff all on tv and me and the misses stroll over to the dvd collection (blu-ray collection slowly growing, like the look of the BR boxes hehe) of films we have and picking 1 to watch. Somehow sat on the settee and strolling through lines of txt on the tv
dsnt appeal to me, or waiting 20mins for a dload to finish, my cup of tea wld be cold? I am MAN, I PUT DISK IN TRAY AND MISSES GETS POPCORN!!! UGGGHH hehe

I also read some1 say y buy a HD drive when theres not much difference between that and dvd, my answer, y buy a 1080p tv if your not going to use the power, stick with your SD and buy dvds. But as we can see in sales peeps r not, and peeps who pay a grand for a tv pay that much to use it at full whack and u can only do that with HD Media. Regardless if its only a bit better people need to justify to themselves why they jus bought a 1080p HD tv and i dont think theyll get that from wotchin it with there dvd player and thinking..Hmmmm looked better on my old 37inch...., u dont buy a lancer evo and do 55mph every day in it.

Blu-Ray is my future media for film content, my chosen format, im happy with my tv and player and will continue to biuld my collection of great films and in some cases memorys. Nuff said lol im off and thx for reading that took me ages lol

Currently isn't meaningless as Digital download services haven't really kicked off and the majority of people don't have high-speed internets.

that charges $150.00 for a 200gb laptop hardrive, or we can pay 20 bucks and have all that info on a Blue ray disk. Downloads may be the future but with AT&T putting download caps and such it is not in the near future, especially with download speeds we have now.

In 2 years 1tb HDD will cost $150USD and a blue ray burner will be $150USD and the disks will be down to like $5USD each. I still think a cheap, portable, and flexible medium like blue ray is a great alternative. Afterall, we have to bake up our 1tb HDD to something.

@above, have a bubble for thinking like me, LOL

Yeah sure buddy. How long would it take to download a true HD movie? How many gigs? 30gb and up to 50gb of content for a single movie is ridiculous, and how many movies can you fit on a decent hard drive? To have a collection of around 50 movies you'd need at least 1.5 terabyte (1,500gb) of storage.

DDLs are the future....the very distant future.

Seagate? The hard drive manufacturer Seagate? Oh yes...

But really, this is plain bullshit. Download can really become more popular in movies, like it is on music. But legal download can?

Look at music business, the downloads give far less money than physical media. The widespread "download your musics" mentality is based on illegal download. Stop thinking how many people you know that stills buying CDs, start thinking how many buy legal downloaded music and than you can compare.

So even if movie studios go more on the web business model, they will not drop physical media, since web maybe do some money, but less then physical for then. So if studios want to make any money on HD movies, they will HAVE to adopt some new format.

And this make the BD victory worth, not meaningless.

not really, thats what people been saying about paper and still every year there is more paper used than ever before so nah I dont think so.

Also its I prefer a cd rather than 50-150gb downloading with even best connection still will take ages.. so blue ray is right in time. downloading will come in 10 years or so maybe even later

so because this guy is from seagate, he can't have an honest opinion about DD/disc formats.

Then I guess sony can't have an honest opinion on blu ray right?

Microsoft can't give their opinion on PC's then too?

the guy makes a valid point, you can disagree with it all you want, but high def disc formats wiil not last anywhere near as long as DVD's did.

the year 3015 belongs to Downloadable content.

Right now Physical media is the SH*T!

So if it does take over then it means no walking to stores and whatnot.

He's pissed that his investment went down the white bowl.

Also, he is saying F**k all those countries that are slowly getting the "tech" thing together. Those poor countries are only now getting the first Xbox and the PS2 (some of the people)

what about those countries?

Dude is so f**ked.

and then there's the MTBF we have to contend with when considering HDDs & SSDs

time travel and tv's installed in our brains. But that future wont be here for a while. What do you expect a hard drive company to say about a war they're not even involved in? REDICULOUS BS from seagate. Buy western digital.

Digital download is great, but I'll be dead long before physical media is actually replaced. People want tangibility.

Seagate's top honcho statement is meaningless to me. Physical media will exists for a very long time. I'm more inclined to believe that solid state memory device will replace hard disk drives.

Count me in into having the physical disc. Im kinda paranoid with tech, one error and your data is gone, it happens to me. bummer.

Discs will still rule over downloads for the next 5 years easy.

yeah, I love the (IDEA) of downloaded media myself... but I'm also in the 2% population that does think this way. 98% of the world likes owning something tangible. I'd say not even 70% of the world is online... How do you get these (downloaded hd movies) into their hands? How do you get it into my hands at a faster rate than I can go to the store and buy it? How about that?

I don't care if it's an hour to download my movie or 10 hours I can walk right across the street and by the movie I want in about 3 min. Until they come up with an alternative to beat that time, I'm sticking with actual media.

Sorry, Seagate... I guess you'll just lose out this generation. "ha"

he will die in the future anyways....

Downloading true HD content isn't feasible with the required disk space, and average internet speeds it will require. It seems more like a hassle than anything else.

It is only a matter of time before the security features are broken. Making it a hard sell for movie studios to be encouraged to make their content easily downloadable; and in time, easily shared.

You also still have the issue of getting HD downloads from your computer to your television. Streaming is not much of an option, and having to buy a disc to burn the file on sort of defeats the purpose of downloading it as opposed to buying the disc.

The only reasonable option is using a device like the PS3 or 360. This however is a poor solution since a hard drive is not a guarantee for the 360, and neither have the disc space for such a feature.

I don't see it working for a few years, personally.

well, it would be great to have a Terabyte sized HDD and a HD-DVD/BR burner to burn stuff into...

this would be a boost for folks who love downloading stuff from p2p bit torrent.

Honestly, would you trust all of your movies to a HDD????
They would have to improve the quality a lot until people would trust their entire library to a device that dies after a certain amount of time/use.

Please, move to direct downloads will demand a lot of other improvements other than bandwith.

Those guys are foolish.

Argument 1: HD Movies are too big to transfer.

Are they? I mean, in MPEG2 compression so the BluRay or HD-DVD player decode quickly they are .. but how about H.264? Nop, not big anymore. (Would say, 4-6GB for awesome 1080p quality.)

Argument 2: His opinion is biased because he wants to seel Hard Drives.

Well, it's not like Blu-Ray is competing with HDDs .. his business only have room to grow more and more.. even without any digital distribuition .. storage today is MASSIVE .. just by the cinema moving from film to digital cameras .. imagine how much storage this creates. He doesn't have a reason to be worried or to risk his reputation being "overly biased" .. not saying he is not, just not as much as people want to USE AS EVIDENCE...

It's not like he is "lying" just to get more business .. he believes in it from his point of view.

Argument 3: HHDs arent realiable.

What the...?! .. and Blu-Rays are?...

Technically speaking, HDDs do degrade over time, as ANY digital media.. movie makers are steping back to film to store the master of their filmes because under "controled conditions" they degrade in a way that is possible to recover.

But fact is .. DVD's or even Blu-Rays degrade MUCH more than HDDs...

O_o seriously... stop with this draconian sindrome of "wanting to store all world's knowledge in your basement" .. it's stupid and the disks WILL DEGRADE..

When u DL u only can watch it on ur computer instead of any other TV. Each HD movie probably 10gig in size. U will need 1000 gig harddrive cost like $500.