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Five ways Kinect 2 must improve on the original

The almost universal critical panning of Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor was a nail in the coffin for new Kinect experiences. Microsoft's magic eyeball of potential has more or less been boiled down to a Dance Central peripheral. Yes, there are a few gems like Child of Eden and The Gunstringer, but Harmonix seems to be the only developer (including Microsoft) who has crafted a truly lasting classic using the Kinect. If there is any hope for controller-free gaming beyond dancing games, it's going to take a lot of improvements. Here are five ways the Kinect 2 will have to improve on the original.

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Holeran5072d ago

Work correctly for a start.

ziggurcat5072d ago

has it even been announced yet or is this just another stupid article theorizing about something that doesn't exist?

Shadonic5072d ago

it works just not for everyone i mean even with steel battalion and other titles theres still people supporting the game and even showing it working for them so it must be something wrong between those it works for and those it dosent. In a video showing steel battalion working really well he has a pretty good setup and goes over his play space and lighting and from what ive seen of kotakus little kinect demonstration space they dont have much space in there. There are games that work and we cant forget about the PC field and the gaming stuff thats been created on the front which overall has been showing what kinect can really do sadly 90% of the haters of kinect are mostly trolls and dont notice these things.

GribbleGrunger5072d ago

That's five words, not five reasons

Holeran5072d ago

But if it would work correctly that would probably make up for all the other problems.

GribbleGrunger5072d ago (Edited 5072d ago )

A concept that is wrong -- by its very nature -- will never work correctly

greenpowerz5072d ago

It doesn't work for you because kinect isn't designed to work with your PS3 ;)

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Software_Lover5072d ago

Worked great with Mass Effect 3 for me.
Works great with Kung Fu High Impact for me.
Works great with Kinect Adventures for me.
Gunslinger is great (but my arms hurt like hell afterward)
Fruit Ninja Kinect, even multiplayer, works great for me.
Hole in the Wall works great for me.
Dashboard navigation (voice and hand) works great.

I could list more but the point has been made. Its all in perspective. I completely understand that the kinect is not gonna replace my controller anytime in the foreseeable future, but it does offer pretty good gaming experiences.

Its funny how people claim its a failure because EVERY GAME THAT COMES OUT FOR IT IS NOT A HIT. Well in that case, every console is a failure also.

greenpowerz5072d ago (Edited 5072d ago )

Works great in most cases. The tech is ahead of its time. It will get better. Doesn't work so good for PS3 fanboys. Dance Central and Kinect sports are colt classics already. My family loves these games and are among our favorites of any game on any console. I love using kinect for non gaming as well. Most kinect hate comes from PS MOVE failure and kinect's console pushing ability.

Machioto5072d ago (Edited 5072d ago )

@green what are talking about?the tech is not ahead of its time,Sony and Nintendo both were offered the tech but nin turned it down and Sony put on hold until it got better,move is not a failure as games that support it are coming out(unfinished swan,new counter strike,resident evil chronicles,portal 2 patched,odd world strangers wrath patched)ifyou want more on move new,implementation check out iwaggle3d on youtube or his website with the same name.

greenpowerz5072d ago (Edited 5072d ago )

What the heck are you talking about? What does Sony and Nintendo passing up similar tech that was primitive at the time, have to do with Kinect's success and hate of today? Nintendo being forced to release a new console and Sony in 3rd place and you talk about what they passed up? They don't need people reminding them of their costly mistake lol(not that hardware and their software was anywhere near as advanced as it needed to be to compare)

Nin and Sony passed up years ago when hardware couldn't have made it work to begin with, coming from non software companies that don't know the first thing about complex software lol.

cstyle5072d ago (Edited 5072d ago )

We all know the real reason why some here don't like kinect. Its simply because its not for PS3. Sony could never have developed the software for that thing. Its way over their heads. they have a decent R&D but Microsoft's R&D division is 10 times larger and devote more resources to technology like this. Just look at the steady improvements/ updates they release for it.

This is why sony went with a cheaper option in the move. One of Kinects strong points is that you can use it along with xbox live to do voice navigation and hand gestures. Can you imagine using that thing with how hideous PSN overlays look? Its just not built for it. The next version should improve on everything. There won't be hardware limitations holding it back. Overall I think they hit the jack pot with kinect and its a major success. Don't be surprised if sony tries to copy it next gen. That is if they aren't too broke to make any investments in this technology.

dkp235072d ago

Just got a kinect for 69.99 refurbished from Frys this weekend.

Surprised how responsive it was as the videos i remember seeing pre-launch looked unresponsive.

Voice recognition to go through apps and searching for contect worked fine. Responsiveness both in daytime and nighttime were pretty much spot on.

No issues here and this was refurbished.

The kinect adventures that came with it however did not read properly, had to install three times to get it to work. Each time the % would go higher and finally installed.

Shadonic5072d ago

well as a kinect owner dude you have to be weary of what reviews you listen too my best advice is to wait like 3 weeks or so before buying a game if there's no demo out and wait until someone posts a video of the thing working because the reviewers these days seem as bias and unbelieving in kinect as 99% of these trolls so just wait until you actually see the game in action and make sure you take notice of there play space and there gestures because a lot of people get really lazy or just plain cant fallow the directions on the screen of how it was intended to be performed you have no idea how many kinect game walkthroughs ive seen with people raising there left arm cursing at the device when the games asking for there right.

dkp235072d ago

my space is very limited too. Performed great

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio37d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing37d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9237d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit37d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing37d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9237d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay39d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn239d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn239d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown39d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay39d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay39d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac38d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger39d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300039d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde39d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde38d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7540d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_38d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.