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Three endings you should hate more than Mass Effect 3's

Paul Stachniak defends Mass Effect 3's ending by offering three endings from other popular video games that missed the narrative mark.

Lupus645065d ago

Personally, I didn't have a problem with ME3's ending. Sure, I can understand how people got upset from not having every bullet point addressed at the ending, but I feel like every decision was addressed by the immediate result at the time of the decision.

At the end of Mass Effect 3, all I could think about was whether or not I was willing to sacrifice the synthetics that I'd saved, and how my Shepard would never get to see his crew again because of my decision. I kept thinking about it intermittently days later, and I think that's a hell of a compliment for any piece of narrative.

grailly5065d ago (Edited 5065d ago )

complaining about ME 3's ending being bad is like saying the rest of ME's story is good, which it really isn't. Sure the mission-contained stories were good and well written but the overarching story was garbage. Giant squids from space, really? who thought THAT was good?
I like the gameplay and characters, I wasn't awaiting much from the ending, so it was fine by me.

EDIT. it's the same here, nobody complained about the borderlands ending before because nobody cared about the story.

TekoIie5065d ago

"Giant squids from space, really? who thought THAT was good?"

If i could guess it would be the 3mil people who have bought each game...

Anon19745065d ago (Edited 5065d ago )

I agree with Borderland's ending. It wasn't the story that drove me in that game, it was the loot! The Borderlands ending was just a bullet point, another mission completed but in no way did I feel it took away from the 100 hours I put into that game, nor did it stop me from jumping all over the DLC when it came out. In fact, Borderlands is in my top 10 games of this gen. This happens all the time in TV, movies, games, books. It's hard as hell to wrap things up in a satisfying way but just because they don't always stick the landing doesn't mean the ride wasn't worthwhile.

If you sunk numerous hours into the Mass Effect series and had a blast playing, and the ending of the third one ruined it for you, you really need to ask yourself why you play games in the first place. I'll never understand the rage over this. "Bu-bu-bu Bioware said the ending would be all things to all people! They said!" Give your head a shake.

ShinMaster5065d ago

Those other games didn't have you making choices throughout 3 games.
They didn't build false hope on the fans.

Megaton5065d ago

MGS4? Really? Some people...

I would, however, say that MGS2 belongs at the top of any list of bad endings. It was so bad that it put me off to MGS3 until long after Subsistence had released.

MacDonagh5065d ago

I actually really liked the MGS 2 ending, but I didn't care for the convoluted plot of MGS 4, especially in the end. I would've liked it if Hideo decided then and there if Solid Snake ended it there and then, and you didn't need to show it happening which could've led to him coming back in a future title. I would've preferred that instead of what we got. Just my opinion.

Megaton5065d ago (Edited 5065d ago )

Didn't bother me much that he didn't kill himself. I thought it ran on a little long, but they obviously wanted to wrap up as much as possible. It was clear that Kojima was trying to make a clean break from the series. Didn't work out too well, though.

MacDonagh5065d ago

@Megaton I dunno man. I really would've liked it if he ended it but I think that Konami would've greatly preferred it if Solid didn't die. However, the MGS5 sequel will no doubt use the Fox Engine that they've been working on for years. I hope that this time that he ends Solid's chapter and allow a new protagonist to take up the slack. I wouldn't mind Akiba doing it.

STONEY45065d ago

Kojima said recently that Snake was supposed to die, but he decided to change it near the end of development because most of the team really wanted him to live.

STONEY45065d ago (Edited 5065d ago )

I feel like the only person in the world who thought the last hour of MGS2 made sense, and liked the ending.

As for MGS4, I think they played the LOLNANOMACHINES card too much. But it's still a great game. Story-wise though, it's my least favorite in the series.

Bimkoblerutso5065d ago

Yeah, I'm with you. Still loved the game. Still loved the characters, but the plot was just...crazy to the point that it almost seemed like parody.

WeskerChildReborned5065d ago

Yea MGS4 IMO was one of the best games i've played and had the best ending IMO. omg the boss battle was just so emotional aha

EmperorDalek5065d ago (Edited 5065d ago )

At least you knew it didn't end at Halo 2... And MGS4's ending was great.

And Borderlands 2 isn't even out yet.

mep695065d ago

And Kojima has confirmed MGS 5

MrMister5065d ago

Which is a prequel featuring Big Boss and a YOUNG Solid Snake. So what's your point, son?

WeskerChildReborned5065d ago

@Mista, is it confirmed it will be a prequel?

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Summons755065d ago

How am I suppose to not like the ending to Borderlands 2 if it hasn't even come out yet?

As for Halo and MGS4, those for one made sense. MGS was emotional and bitter sweet, Halo 2 was purely ment to go straight into Halo 3. ME3's endings took no what what you have done into account throughout the franchise, it also didn't even matter what you did in the 3rd game. It came down to what choice do you want to do A Bor C. Even the extended endings did nothing but add a slide show like it was suppose to help, which it didn't. Also adding another ending which surprisingly made the most sense out of all of them.

It's not the ending that is bad that people are mad about, it's the fact that Bioware sold the game on the statement that your choices effected everything and that ended up not happening. It was like the ending to Deus Ex, where you pushed a button and that was the ending.

Please realize this before making stupid articles trying to bash highly respected games

STONEY45065d ago

The worst part was Bioware flat out saying the endings wouldn't be A, B, and C.

“We have the ability to build the endings in a way that we don’t have to worry about eventually tying them back together,” he said. “This story arc is coming to an end with this game, and that means the endings can be a lot more different. At this point we’re taking into account so many decisions that you’ve made as a player and reflecting a lot of that stuff. It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things, lots of things about who lives and who dies, civilizations that rose and fell, all the way down to individual characters.

“It’s not even in any way like the traditional game endings, where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B, or C.”

TopDudeMan5065d ago

See, I don't think a developer should change the ending to a piece of media just because people don't like it. Some things have really bad wtf endings and I think that's okay.

I mean, JK Rowling changed the ending to harry potter and the deathly hallows because she gave a few people copies of it and they didn't like the ending where harry died. So she tacked on some half-baked conclusion where he doesn't actually die and threw it in just to keep the fans happy, but I think the original ending would have made perfect sense, despite it being unpopular.

FCOLitsjustagame5065d ago

If you want to make money you better make endings that are popular.

If you don't care about making money then make whatever ending you want.

People these days seem to think its wrong for people or companies to want to make money. Of course if they don't then they will not have the big budgets to make the game in the first place. No hiring of staff, no buying updated equipment....

TopDudeMan5065d ago

Still, it takes balls to make the ending you want. I'd rather have a really shocking ending like, say Batman Arkham City, than a "safe" ending like, well, most games.

kariyanine5065d ago

That's a silly statement. Stephen King is notorious for writing "bad" endings and I don't think he has any trouble making money.

Games in general have pretty awful storytelling so bad endings are just part and parcel with the medium.

Hicken5065d ago

I think that if your franchise has been heavily relying on "choice" as one of the main draw points, and your ending gives many the feeling that the choices they made were irrelevant, you SHOULD change the ending.

WeskerChildReborned5065d ago

Yea, i don't really mind endings like that. The only problem i have is that with an ending that kills the main protagonist, it make's you think their won't be anymore sequels or not even a chance to see the protagonist again.

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Konami Delists Some Metal Gear Games From Digital Stores Without Warning

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker HD have been delisted from digital stores without warning.

cloganart94d ago

I mean, it makes sense. With Vol.2 coming and all that

Commentby94d ago

Stupid headline. Should state that they are being updated or discontinued. This makes the crazy people that only read headlines think it some kind of conspiracy to take away peoples already purchased games.

jjb198194d ago

If you want to all of a sudden own them now and haven't played them yet because a remastered is coming out, shame on you. I can't believe people are complaining about this 15 years later when it was bound to happen anyway. "A new remaster is out, quick, I'd better buy the original from the shop."

gigoran893d ago

Gamers: "Physical? who needs physical? everyone knows that digital online games are the future. stop living in the past. we don't need no stinking disc drive"

Same gamers: "How dare the delist a digital game that I own!!!!"

computeSci93d ago (Edited 93d ago )

And? What is your point?

Same gamers: "How dare the retailers to delist (quit selling) a physical game that I own!!!!"

I think you just read the headline and don't know how dilisting works with Sony. It's common knowledge that:

"Players who already bought the games will still have them in their library and can download and play them as usual."

So again, what is your point?

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Halo 2 & 3 Campaign Remakes Allegedly In Development, Halo 7 Will Feature Multiplayer

Remakes of the campaigns featured in Xbox Game Studios' Halo 2 and Halo 3 are currently in development, according to a new rumor.

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medman204d ago (Edited 204d ago )

That's Microsoft's gaming division for you...kill off developers making new ip while trying to capitalize off some long lost glory that has no hope of ever being what it once was thanks to recent decision making favoring unrealistic profit goals and greed. What a joke.

Reaper22_204d ago

So much bitterness. Why be upset over something like this. Just don't buy it and stick with what you prefer.

Tacoboto204d ago

Complaining about Microsoft is the only thing people comment here for anymore.

This website is practically dead without it

Mmmkay203d ago

I remember when you guys constantly complained about Sony remaking and remastering games. Guess it is cool now. As usual.

thesoftware730203d ago

Give it rest medman..., take a deep breath and try to not sound so invested in something no one is forcing you to read, buy, or play.

"Console war"is over, Sony won, be happy.

medman199d ago (Edited 199d ago )

@thesoftware730
I'm invested in people losing their jobs and their livelihoods while Microsoft execs tout record profits for their gaming division. Not sure why you wouldn't be invested. Could be you one day. Good luck.

Travesty204d ago

So what’s their solution to having multiplayer? Wait until Halo 7?
That was one of the most memorable parts of Halo..

monkey602204d ago

I'm not sure spending the heavy investment in time to recreate the multiplayer here is the answer either though.
Remaking the campaigns is a great idea to bring the new players up to speed. But if the multiplayer is included in each it'll just fracture the player base of each release.
I think it might be better to turn these campaigns out quicker and have 1 multiplayer game to keep everyone in one place

Travesty204d ago

Maybe having an Halo Online and just release the Combat Evolve maps. And when Halo 2 releases have those maps release. I don’t know but I would like to play a newer version of Halo multiplayer. I know times have changed, and Fortnite is all younger kids really play. But back then it was Halo and you connecting 6 Xbox’s together lol.

jjb1981204d ago

I agree. I think that'll segment the playerbase and once 7 comes out, players might realize it sucks and go back to the older games. Especially if 7 is live-servixe, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot on the one good leg they have to stand on.

crazyCoconuts204d ago

Kinda surprised they didn't just port MCC.
Maybe more $ to by made with separate remasters

Inverno204d ago

Wouldn't have that problem if it were MCC being released. Gotta wait for 7 to be disappointed with MP all over again cause if they half baked Infinite what makes people think they won't half bake the next game? MP works in past HALO games not cause of nostalgia but because it's MP that isn't concerned with the endless service approach.

JEECE203d ago

There is so much cognitive dissonance over Infinite. People say they didn't like it because it was a live service. Yet if you look at what the criticisms of it were at the time it came out and when the playerbase started falling off, the primary issue people had was a lack of updates. In other words, it wasn't enough of a live service.

Which is really an encapsulation of the problem with multiplayer today. So many people think that they want to go back to the "good old days" of mid-2000s multiplayer (The first few Halos, Socom, the first few Battlefields, CS 1.6, etc), but in reality if a multiplayer game like that came out today, people would whine about the lack of content within a month of launch and go back to a live service with a grindy progression system.

isarai204d ago

Why not just port the MCC? 🤔 That was the easiest layup ever and you completely missed it

franwex204d ago

30% profit margins! People will pay $70+ for remakes!

Software_Lover204d ago

I thought the same thing, then I realized that they wouldn't include the remakes in that edition. We may get a different version of Halo MCC in the future with all of the remakes included. I just want them to include Halo 5 at some point for PC.

TheColbertinator204d ago

Can they remake Reach too with the multiplayer?

Knightofelemia204d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will port Reach over to Playstation I quite enjoyed that game. I played Halo 3 and it was not bad I have Halo 2 on the OG Xbox I just need some cables to hook up to my tv to play it.

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The Behind-The-Scenes Story Of The Art-Style Swap That Saved Borderlands 1

The developers behind the original Borderlands discuss their last-second Hail Mary to change the course of the franchise.

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Michiel1989260d ago

ever since XIII came out I really loved the cell shaded artstyle in games. I probably wouldn't have tried it if it didn't have such a style like that