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Is the Wii U Already Irrelevant?

TGE:

I've owned a Nintendo console since the days of the Famicom. Back then the words “video game” might as well have not even existed. We just “played Nintendo”. Nintendo reigned as the king of the home video gaming console. Nintendo had excellent first party games as well as the support of all of the 3rd party developers and publishers. Sadly, the same cannot be said today. Nintendo’s grip on the proverbial hardcore gaming market has weakened since the days of the GameCube. And in an unsurprising path forward, I don’t think the Wii U will change things over the long haul.

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samtheseed5071d ago

Well, isn't it just a shame the "hardcore" are a small minority of the overall market. Microsoft suddenly realised this: enter the Kinect. Sony are clueless = 3rd place fail.

Honestly, whoever wrote this article, it's time to give up games journalism.

Megaton5071d ago

Nintendo fans, defending the casual to the death.

samtheseed5071d ago (Edited 5071d ago )

Obtuse anti Nintendo fanboy who lives in a basement; thinks he and his other basement dwellers are the centre of the universe. Social gaming? what's social mean? I live in a basement and barely see the light of day... Must get a life and grip on reality. F me.

PygmelionHunter5071d ago

Worthless comment coming from a guy who trolls articles about consoles He doesn't/will never own.

live2play5071d ago

megaton another troll who thinks 1 nintendo fan equals every nintendo fan

Megaton5070d ago (Edited 5070d ago )

Look at you guys. Ridiculous. All mad and defensive about everything. I'd be surprised to hear that you guys were even alive when I was gaming on my 1st, 2nd, and maybe even 3rd piece of Nintendo hardware. How vast are your Nintendo chops, eh? You ever own a Virtual Boy? 'Cause I did. You still have a working SNES and a shelf full of cartridges? 'Cause I do.

I don't agree with their path over the last decade or so. The GameCube (which is sitting in my closet) failed to deliver and now it's all about gimmicks. I think all of the "casuals" that you guys are determined to defend for whatever bizarre reason aren't going to return for the Wii U. Nintendo made a decision to go for short-term gain by romancing that crowd with the Wii, and now they're paying for it.

I respect Miyamoto more than just about anybody in the industry, but I'm not some blind loyalist. I'm not going to defend something I like when it stops being something I like just because we had some good times in the past.

N4g_null5070d ago

Megaton you are a collector good for you I will email you a cookie. If you even played the best the wii has you would know the game play matches up with many of those snes games. True gamers know this and only fanboys see the gimmicks. You are indeed a sucker or a fanboy if you bought a virtual boy it sucked like most hd gaming sucks.

I'm pretty sure you don't have the wii libaray to qualify as a fan or hardcore gamer. On top of that I'm also betting you couldn't beat any of those games since you seem like a colector.

I've went in many offices of exec who have consoles on the shelf but could not even tell you about later levels stages of some of those classics are why they are cool.

You seem like one of those guys. The had one gimmick we all loved game play. Luckily they have he'd coming so you can finally see why the wii is hardcore and why nintendo is still the only definition of video game rather than computer games.

Just like the wii and the 3ds they won't need defending. They just got their 3d game engines fun and I'm not sure they have too much to fix anymore after the wii.

In context the other next gens console maybe be redundant since pc will pretty much out do them at what they can lay claim to. Yet I'm not sure why you would wait on power which is currently available. Unless you enjoy their exclusives, lucky those will be coming to their older systems. It's going to be a fun gen reguardless.

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Entropic5071d ago

This makes a lot of sense if you're a hardcore gamer; at this point, do we really need another gimmicky device to appeal to the casual crowd? As a long-time gamer and fan or real games, I'd say no :)

vallencer5071d ago

The definition of "real" games has changed because the market has changed. There's nothing wrong with casual games for casual people if that's not what you want then don't buy those types of games. It really doesn't look that gimmicky to be honest. Looks less gimmicky then the wii. I like the fact that more people are able to enjoy the hobby I've enjoyed for years. Wish everyone felt the same.

N4g_null5070d ago

That is the most casual think I've heard. How did that hd gimmick and 15 fps effect game play... It made it worst which is why real hardcore wii games don't get resold back or traded in. Now your gimmick is lost. They have hd too... They better figure out what gaming means before they get neo geo'd. Any one can make a lame movie game.

Moby-Royale5071d ago (Edited 5071d ago )

I guarantee you this: Not a single person on this site lives in their parents' basement.

That was used against all nerds about eight years ago.

Now we see nerds using it against other nerds. Lol really?

Ot: I was seriously considering buying a wii the other day for around seventy dollars. I really want to play Skyward Sworg and a lot of those Jrpgs the PS360 never got.

I figure, why not? Their are several Wii games that I want.

My point?

I'll probably be doing the same thing for the Wii U. One day it will be dirt cheap and years old. On that day I will see if there are enough games that I want. As opposed to buying the console new and hoping that there will eventually be a lot of games that I want.

Moby-Royale5071d ago

*Fifth space, "their" should be "there".

Ugh I hate that crap! ;)

N4g_null5070d ago

Yeah I have friends that feel that same way about the other hd consoles. A few even bought games for them without the system yet it seems they will wait on the next version of hd console from them. Or just sell the games back for 3ds games or the wiiu which does run in at least real hd.

Instigator5071d ago (Edited 5071d ago )

I know it's somewhat of a taboo thing to say, but Sony was actually the very first to tap into the casual market. in the 2D era it was considered a childs and social outcasts pastime by the non-gamers, but then the PSX came and made it cool and suddenly everyone wanted a gaming system.

The PSX sold 100M, the PS2 sold 150M. There is not that many 'hardcore' gamers out and about. Even if you halve those numbers the sales of a game classified as 'hardcore' achieved a fraction of those sales. The only thing Nintendo did was go after the market which had clearly worked for Sony for 2 generations after their most hardcore system sold a measly 24 million units.

Is there any reason to believe that there are 60 million 'hardcore' gamers owning a PS3 and 360? If so then why does most of the games heralded by said gamers struggle to push 5 million copies, a mere 12% of the systems install base? The simple truth is that the 'hardcore' is a minority on any system, not just the ones that have openly targeted the casual market.

N4g_null5070d ago

Ms knows this but Sony can even make casual, rpg... Just look back at Sony during those days. No one bought that system for Sony games and there was way more crap then and it was easier games. The current Sony fans don't believe this or have short memories for what ever reason.
Plus too the ps eye was complete trash when it came out. Sony has dumped their mascots over and over. Now the ultimide casual game is last of us.... What skills do you need to play this game. How many will replay this interactive canned multiple ending choose your adventure story.

Ck1x5070d ago

@Instigator: What a very well thought out point you make. Most people seem to think that psOne & ps2 sold so many systems because of the hardcore bases only. Sony was the first company to create systems that appeal to both demographics and now it seems that they have forgotten that magic which made them so successful in the first place... Nintendo wants to tap into that ps2 craze because no one has replicated that kind of success since.

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jayzablade5071d ago

Beat me too it Grumpy OG!!

Makes me laugh when people say the Wii is for casuals, I have a library of over 50 games, i'd say 20% of those are casual. When you look at my collection - Alone in the Dark, Another Code, Back to the Future Blazing Angels, Bully, CoD 3-World at War-Black Ops, Conduit, Cursed Mountain, Dead Space, Disaster Day of Crisis, Fifa 08, Ghostbusters, Ghost Squad, Golden Eye, Heat Seeker, House of the Dead Overkill & 2+3, Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword & Twilight Princess, Links Crossbow Training, Mad World, Mario Kart, Mario Party 8 Mario Strikers Charged, Medal of Honor 2 & Vanguard, Monster Hunter, Mortal Kombat, NBA Jam, Mario Bros Wii, Prince of Persia, Pro Evo 08, Punch Out, Red Steel 1+2 Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, Scarface, Silent Hill, Smackdown vs Raw 09, Star Wars Clone Wars, Force Unleashed 1+2, Mario Galaxy 1+2, Paper Mario Tiger Woods 09, Tomb Raider, Warioware Smooth Moves, Wii Fit, Play, Sports & Sports Resort.
(BTW i must have about 8/9 downloaded from the VC)

Personally i don't think people gave the Wii a chance, just look at the titles there, people say their Wii is gathering dust but there are some fantastic games, even ones i am yet to own so to write off a console which is yet to be released which also has backwards compatibility is just plain retarded.
Sure games such as Black Ops & Force Unleashed look shit loads better on 360/PS3 but i love to play with the Wii Zapper, loads more enjoyable and i find it more realistic and as for Force Unleashed 1...well...closest you will ever come to being a Jedi!!
People wanna say Nintendo don't cater for the Core, look at my list again and you'll have no arguement!!!

N4g_null5070d ago

Sin and punishment is good so is bwii if you can still find it. Also get last story and xenoblade when you can with demon blade from vanillaware of you can still find it. Blastworks was really fun also. The first console game with true mod support.

Lots of other sleeper hits also that alot of so called hardcore don't even know about.

AO1JMM5069d ago (Edited 5069d ago )

I have been gaming since the Atari days and I currently own all 3 current gen consoles and a PC and I have yet to see anything that I would classify as "HARDCORE".

That being said there are a huge amount of "CORE" games on the Wii like jayzablade and scissor_runner mentioned above. It is to bad that the so called hardcore types cannot see past Mario and Pokemon.

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The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7747d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Nintendo Suing U.S. Government Over Tariffs

Nintendo filed a lawsuit in the United States Court of International Trade.

Nintendo of America is suing the United States government over the sweeping tariffs President Donald Trump put in place last year, according to a complaint filed Friday in the U.S. Court of International Trade and obtained by Aftermath.

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Deathdeliverer72d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi71d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer72d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot72d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box72d ago (Edited 72d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno72d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay72d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno70d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK71d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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