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Hands-On with Metal Gear Solid 4 trial version

Via Gaming Age:

"At CES 2008, much to my surprise and delight, I had the opportunity to play the MGS4 Trial. I'm a huge Metal Gear fan so being able to play the game before it's Q2 launch was incredibly satisfying (if only to reassure me that the game is still on track to live up to the high standards of the franchise.) Because the game is likely to remain low-key until launch, I decided to record my entire play-through and post it for the Metal Gear fanatics out there who are scouring the net for even just a morsel of new MGS4 footage. The good news is that MGS4 has all the production value you've come to expect from a Metal Gear game and even in the tiny taste that the trial provides, it's clear that it will put Snake into some pretty unfamiliar, but nonetheless incredible, settings and situations."

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ThaGeNeCySt6681d ago

Nice video... Snake put on some muscle =}

the graphics are SUPERB, I just wish they took the Uncharted route when it comes to how Snake runs and walks... it still resembles MGS2 & 3

other than that... KILLER APP!

P4KY B6681d ago (Edited 6681d ago )

There is no way that MGS4 could be done on a 360.
//sarcasm//

ThaGeNeCySt6681d ago

in that video itself, I didn't see anything that "couldn't" be done on the 360

CeruleanSky6681d ago

2001: "I didn't see anything in that PS2 video that the Dreamcast couldn't handle"

2008: "I didn't see anything in that PS3 video that the Xbox 360 couldn't handle"

kevoncox6681d ago (Edited 6681d ago )

Yes because games that are only on Ps3 are some how 10X better than anything on the market. I love how all the games that are multi plat are better on 360.

Look how the fanboy verbage has changed. It used to be:

1) The Ps3 will blow the 360 out the water
then it became
2) The Ps3 luanch games look better than the 360's
then it became
3) You are compring 1st gen vs. 2nd gen
then it became
4) Give it a year and the true power of the ps3 will be shown
then it became
5) It's the lazy devp fault
then it became
6) Games have to be designed for ps3 first and then ported to 360
then it became
7)This exclusive game is exclusive because it can't be done on 360....

He kid what ever makes you sleep at night!
You and the guy above should make love and have a super fanboy baby. One whose first words are Sony and Xbot.

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Lol at the disagrees. Come on fanboys, atleast reply. You know it's true. You know my words huant you. The 2 games that were supposed to make the 360 look bad ( Burnout Paradise, DMC4 and VF5) are all looking better on the 360 even though they were designed for the ps3 as the default system. Developers have realized that you should code for the weaker system( most bottlenecked) and port up to the 360. Sad but true.

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I understand your POV but it part of it doesn't make any sense.
Why would building from the 360 and porting to the ps3 ruin a game but building from the ps3 and porting to the 360 leave it unblemished or in better standing?

You can't have it both ways. Either porting this gen is a complete failure or it isn't. This build of the 360 should be hampered by a game designed for the ps3. However, it handles it without a problem then the ps3 is indeed the most powerful underpowered machine I have ever seen.

ironically, I just sold my 360 for 1

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It was a joke.

Azures6681d ago

If you need to use the phrase "my words haunt you" on N4G you are an incredible loser. You Kevin are just as bad as any ps3 fanboy.

rhood0226681d ago

@kev

I'm not one of the ones who disagreed with you, but...

Are you serious? While I'll give you that VF5 looks better (longer dev. time, like how Oblivion is better on PS), the other two games are identical in almost every respect. If you believe otherwise, then that's sad.

As far as the porting issue,it's not about porting on a "weaker" system and "upgrading," its about utilizing the hardware that both machines have to offer in the best possible way. When a game is built separately for both systems, a la COD4, the results are amazing. Or you can have the 360 as the lead platform and have a shoddy and broken port, a la any EA game. By building it on the PS3 then porting, its ensuring that both systems get an equally good game, as most multi-plats now show.

The whole sony fanboy rant about lazy developers is apt. And to clarify, the only time fanboys have used that excuse is to describe either, EA sports titles, EA multiplats, and EA developed games (PS3 port of Orange Box), see a pattern?

Now, you seem intelligent, however your comments betray that.

Shankle6681d ago

My god how many times do I have to say this? The PS3 version of the orange box is absolutely fine. The framerate issues must only have been present in early builds of the game because now there are no problems. Reviews of the final game indicated this as well.

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mighty_douche6681d ago (Edited 6681d ago )

Give it a month and it'll be the douche's hands on!!

EDIT: disagree's?? lol, some sour xbox fans in here huh?

pornflakes6681d ago

Ok MGS4 looks nice.. but uncharted looks much better than this.

And plz stop saying the 360 couldnt handel these graphics. The main characters of GoW use more polygons than Solid Snake.

kevoncox6681d ago

I don't think so. The UR 3 engine is good but this is better. However, i don't think people honestly belive this can't be done on 360. I don't understand people, on 1 hand they say things are closer this gen and then on the other hand they come out and say something stupid like " it can't be done on X system ".

I think MGS would be 2 disc on 360. Remember CGI videos are what eats disc space but MGS uses in game cinemas! Just enjoy the game on your systema nd don't use it to bash another system

kevoncox6681d ago (Edited 6681d ago )

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You just contridicted yourself. How do you know the 360 can't handle these graphics, espicially since it's proven to be the texture king this gen? You just said it's not about the visuals but then you say they didn't want to gimp down the visuals.

Sony fans, talk out of their arses.

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You've never played GOW. The areas are not cramped. FOr instance the level where you get to the underground rig, the Draw distance is for about a mile and this is an underground level. Please STFU and play the game. The vasiline type effect is called motion blur. It's suppose to hide objects in the distance as our eyes cannot see far away objects sharply. Sorry the ps3 cannot handle this effect so you don't know it adds realism to the game.

After all of the cloth physics....they are still using last gen animations( except during in -game cinemas lol). So whats your point?
You argument fails and you should kill youself!

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Learn how to reply and come talk to me....

liquidsnake6681d ago (Edited 6681d ago )

Its not that much about the graphics, but the animation and the physics. Cell is an excellent tool to handle these kinds of things. But xbox can probably handle it too. But the main reason Konami didn't want to make this multi is because of gimped down audio.

The visuals was typed wrongly...but the audio has to be compressed in order to fit. Kojima could put it on 2 discs, but don't ask me why he doesn't.

CeruleanSky6681d ago (Edited 6681d ago )

"The main characters of GoW use more polygons than Solid Snake."

Boggle.

Let's just revisit Gears of War to refresh people memories. This was the game that:

* Had absurdly tiny areas - tiny rooms, tiny corridors to limit the amount of geometry to a level the wimpy 360 graphics hardware could handle

* Had absurdly short exterior draw distances with anything beyond 50 feet or so blurred out with some sort of vaseline type filter

* Instead of pushing actual geometry like real next gen games overly relied on massive amounts of normal maps for everything in the game

* The Doom 3 era heavily normal mapped engine had to have the unified lighting model ripped out because the 360 couldn't handle it like PCs could three years before the 360 came out

* Had character models that were conveniently covered almost entirely in rigid geometry that didn't have to be animated or skinned

* And even with all of those shortcuts and compromises still couldn't implement a decent level of AA

And if that wasn't pathetic enough already, Epic had to put out the now infamous Gears of War bullshots everyone now laughs at that were supposedly 5000x5000 renders with all the normal map details and textures/materials ramped up to try to make the game look good.

Yeah, all hail 'teh mighty Xbox 360!' LOL!

Just focusing on the Snake model itself in MGS4:

* No last gen looking normal maps covering the model in silly fake bumpy/shiny material

* The entire Snake model is skinned and flexible like a real human

* Dynamic hair and facial hair that is simulated on the Cell chip

* Fully simulated dynamic cloth that reacts like and is also done on the Cell chip

* Dirt/water/tear simulation on the face

* Modeling of realistic muscle movements that deform the skin/cloth

So, no Snake isn't a boxy rigid completely covered in last gen looking normal maps character like Gears or War.

Thank god. MGS deserves nothing less than a real next gen engine.

Kutagari and Kojima. A match made in gamer heaven.

Genki6681d ago

Folks like you are some of the most insecure around. You've got to tell yourself things like "It can't be done on X because of Y and Z" CONSTANTLY so you can feel secure or good about your stance.

Something tells me that there's a modicum of doubt behind all of the crap you spew.

Get over it already and just play good games. Whether or not it can be done on another system is irrelevant.

Let me ask you this, is that what you constantly think about when you play certain games? Are you going to be sneaking around MGS4 with a hard-on because you can't get over the illusion that it "can't be done anywhere else"?

I pity you. You can't enjoy a game without some sort of contrivance like that, it's sad. Who cares what can and can't be done. If you HAVE to be a fanboy, then just play what you like and be done with it. Don't disillusion yourself and try to force that garbage down other people's throats because you don't fully believe it yourself.

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Konami Delists Some Metal Gear Games From Digital Stores Without Warning

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker HD have been delisted from digital stores without warning.

cloganart77d ago

I mean, it makes sense. With Vol.2 coming and all that

Commentby77d ago

Stupid headline. Should state that they are being updated or discontinued. This makes the crazy people that only read headlines think it some kind of conspiracy to take away peoples already purchased games.

jjb198177d ago

If you want to all of a sudden own them now and haven't played them yet because a remastered is coming out, shame on you. I can't believe people are complaining about this 15 years later when it was bound to happen anyway. "A new remaster is out, quick, I'd better buy the original from the shop."

gigoran876d ago

Gamers: "Physical? who needs physical? everyone knows that digital online games are the future. stop living in the past. we don't need no stinking disc drive"

Same gamers: "How dare the delist a digital game that I own!!!!"

computeSci76d ago (Edited 76d ago )

And? What is your point?

Same gamers: "How dare the retailers to delist (quit selling) a physical game that I own!!!!"

I think you just read the headline and don't know how dilisting works with Sony. It's common knowledge that:

"Players who already bought the games will still have them in their library and can download and play them as usual."

So again, what is your point?

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX790d ago (Edited 790d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro790d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72790d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_790d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga790d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos790d ago (Edited 790d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23790d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000790d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin790d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole790d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix790d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989790d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor790d ago (Edited 790d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989790d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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One Last Smoke - The significance of Snake's cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4

An article looking at the symbolic meaning behind the cigarettes in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.

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