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Microsoft comments on "leaked" Xbox 720 strategy document

Many of you might have read about a purported internal Microsoft strategy document that apparently "leaked" earlier this week, outlining its plans for the next Xbox system.

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DaThreats5074d ago

They didn't deny it
Seems the documents were legit

aviator1895074d ago

I just hope some of the specs have changed somewhat since these plans were drawn out in 2010.

MRHARDON5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

I don't expect the processor to change, maybe the graphics card will be a bit more powerful, using a variation of the ati 7000 series.

Other than that, the specs wont change greatly.

ApplEaglElephant5074d ago

Do you think it takes 2 months to build a new console? They just put random things toghether and call it a day?

No. These things take years of R&D. If Xbox 720 were to be released in 2013, ofc the plan would have to be drawn in 2010. to give few years to design and such.

We all know Xbox 720 isnt going to be much powerful from just looking at how MS was focusing heavily on casuals. They are all about kinects and casuals. They may have few exclusives lined up on launch to draw some gamers in, but that will dry up within a year or two.

RBlaze5074d ago

The fact that they didn't deny doesn't necessarily imply that the docs were legit.

They neither confirmed them nor denied the documents, just simply ignored them. So I don't think this is even really news...

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Spydiggity5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

you really need to learn how to draw conclusions. you don't have a clue how rational thinking works.

we all know? give me a break. we don't KNOW anything.

avengers19785074d ago

I imagine that they will use more up to date tech. but the general concept is probably right. If they use 2 year old tech they sort of doom them selves.

darthv725074d ago

neither confirm nor deny. It looks like the typical PR comment of "no comment" other than them talking up the 360.

Are people expecting them to pull a tony stark and admit that there is a 720? We know they are working on it but they obviously wont show anything until they feel it is time to do so.

Similar to sony and their claim of not showing the ps4 until it is significant enough of an upgrade to existing gen.

JackBNimble5074d ago

ApplEaglElephant
there is no R&d in current tech... they just need to figure out how to do it at an affordable price for consumers.

ON TOPIC... MS didn't give an answer either way, their just feeding you all the hype that they want.

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greenpowerz5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

You seem concerned about xbox. Are you buying one? 56 page fake was unlikely to most from the start. I thought it was real based on the number of cores and the DVR claim. Can't wait to see what the video processing will be like for the BLU RAY drive. I like watching video content on XBL more than on my stand alone Bd player because of XBL.

killerhog5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

Should've gotten yourself a ps3 then dude, blu-ray and a bunch of video streaming options (some of which Ms just included).

P.S
Can't find something? That's okay use media search, Dropbox, or find what you're looking for in the web browser and save it directly to the ps3 HDD.

greenpowerz5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

Why would I buy a PS3 when I want a next gen xbox? LoL

I simply said I wanted to see if the 720 Blu-Ray picture matched my stand alone BLU RAY player picture(Bdc6900) Why would I buy A PS3-a-current-gen-console with a inferior picture to my current standalone player, with PSN not being as rich. to satisfy my next gen needs?

The trolls in here suggesting or implying the leaked specs are weak don't understand 8 times more powerful is a lot. Yes things will be revised, that a given, they could have completely changed hardware components and or brands by now. Stronger than the specs leaked for the PS4 .

Just want the video processor/processing to be solid vs the inferior processing of dvds in the 360. I used my 80gig ps3 fat for BD movies, the samsung was gifted to me revealing it's picture far better than what the PS3 had

Is it just me that feels like there are more PS3 fans in xbox news than there is xbox fans at all times.

ArtificiallyYours5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

There are many, many talented individuals who can forge documents of massive size. Let's not underestimate the capabilities of a forger.

That said, this is looking increasingly real, expecting to hear and or read further news related.

tee_bag2425074d ago

@Greenpowerz
MS isn't exactly known for their video processing and codecs - so don't expect the world. You shouldn't be such a blind fanboy and give Sony credit when it's due... The PS3 clearly spanked any 360 or other Blu ray player that money could buy. That's before even talking about its Media Center capabilities.
Iv whored both systems in this way, i can speak from experience here so i dont care to hear your 1 sided rebuttal either.

Kurt Russell5074d ago

If a new xbox comes out, I'm buying it.

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FamilyGuy5074d ago

Yeah I'm pretty sure it WAS real, and that they've made a few changes in their plans since 2010 but that it is relatively similar to what was leaked.

afterMoth5074d ago

Pathetic. At least being as powerful as a PS3 would be much better and more appealing.

donman15074d ago

This document now has legs. They may change a few things but the majority of the information now seems legit.

GraveLord5074d ago

Of course they're legit. Why else would Microsoft get the documents taken down for copyright infringement?

JsonHenry5074d ago

would have been smarter AND cheaper just to leave it up. Having it taken down by threats from a lawyer just makes it appear true.

nukeitall5074d ago

Because it is spreading misinformation?

Misinformation can be very damaging to a company, because it sets up expectations. That's partly how Sony killed the Dreamcast, because Sony managed to drum up so much hype for the PS2.

In a similar vein, if you paint an expectation of something unreachable, and then the product releases it's going to be disappointing, even though it might be a great product!

-Superman-5074d ago

Like you read: Focus on kinect.
It will be another kinect console

nukeitall5074d ago

Hopefully Kinect will be responsive enough to satisfy the hardcore gamers needs! :D

Brownghost5074d ago

or they dont want the wrong message sent

Hayabusa 1175073d ago

I wouldn't be 100% sure about that. If I were Microsoft I'd do exactly what they did: release an official statement that doesn't out right confirm or deny it. Sheople will naturally think silence is consent, thence accept the rumour as true when in reality the final specs could be better then the rumuor. Infact, maybe MS deliberately released the document to through people off: and they're only going to through people off by showing something that seems plausable.

There's only one problem: I'm not sure any corporate company is that smart - or maybe brave is the word. In which case, these rumours are probebly true then, not a elaborate fabrication to hide their real plans.

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Neko_Mega5074d ago

If Xbox 720 specs are right and it can play 360 games too (That means all), I think I might get one. I know I might get the WIi U just for Mario and Zelda games.

What I wonder is if it has bluray in it, wouldn't that mean Sony is making money off of the Xbox 720 do to Sony owning the rights to bluray? This wouldn't be much of a shock, mostly because Sony and Microsoft do work together (but mostly on PC's).

CYCLEGAMER5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

Sony does not own blu-ray, I do not know where that is coming from, bluray is a format not a brand. Its almost like saying Sony owns 3d.

TheLyonKing5074d ago

Sony and many others are the fathers of blu-ray. They own a % of the profits.

Along with others they did create the new storage medium.

guitarded775074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

Don't know why theLyonKing is getting disagrees... I guess people just click disagree out of stupidity. I honestly don't know if Sony gets a %, but they are part of the group that developed and continue to oversee the development of blu-ray.

check link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

darthv725074d ago

MS also has a stake in the bluray format. They initially were playing both sides (HDDVD/Bluray) due to their VC-1 codec being available for both.

Bluray support various codecs and VC-1 is one of them. MS is also a partner with disney and sony and several others over the creation and use of the AACS drm on bluray discs.

MS has their fingers in almost everything.

cee7735074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

sony gets royalties off every blu ray disc/ blu ray drive sold so yes they will make money off xbox if it includes it.

_-EDMIX-_5074d ago

@darthv72-THANK YOU! I hate when people keep making it sound like MS is not going to add Bluray because "its Sonys"

Um...yes Sony has a stake in Bluray's success...so does about a quarter of the tech industry including MS themselves.

Bluray WILL BE IN 720. I find it sad if people think that this is some sort of big news. They said it themselves that when the time came THEY WILL add Bluray.

Sony also helped push CD-Rom back in the day AND DVD...so it would mean that Sony is "making money off" 360 dvds too. Only new peps to gaming seem to think this yet disregard Sony's involvement in the very format that is in the 360 RIGHT NOW! I just can't stop laughing!

BitbyDeath5074d ago

@darthv72, MS admitted they only added HD-DVD in 360 to take market share away from Blu-ray.

They have no stake in Blu-ray otherwise their would also be a Blu-ray player addon.

darthv725074d ago

@bitbydeath, you may be a bit misinformed. Not wrong but just a bit misinformed. MS went with the hddvd to stall bluray while at the same time were building their primary goal.

Digital distribution.

Their intent was to have an all digital media center but people were hesitant about it at first. Now we have full digital releases of movies, music and games on not only the 360 but the ps3 as well.

MS idea of digital distribution may have seemed pretty hard to achieve then but now it is an integral part of how things work.

As for a bluray add-on...that wouldnt benefit them very much. Especially when you see bluray players are so cheap these days. Even sony is facing stiff competition from the likes of lg, samsung, rca and vizio for cheap stand alone bluray players that are offering all sorts of streaming features.

bluray used to be a selling point to the ps3 when players were more expensive. Like when the ps2 was the cheap dvd player in its time until prices got really cheap.

Now the selling point is obviously the games but if someone is looking for a cheap bluray player, the ps3 isnt it anymore.

BitbyDeath5074d ago

@darthv72, i agree 100% :-)

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JAMurida5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

Nah, Sony doesn't own Blu-ray:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

It was just a big feature at the time, and even now, to have in the PS3.

shoddy5074d ago

I would say Sony make more money on bluray tech than MS.
Finally welcome to bluray after 7 years.

killerhog5074d ago

Sony makes a lot of dough from Ms. Remember Ms uses Sony's music and movies catalog, now blu-ray (next gen). Boy let's hope Ms doesn't skimp on paying Sony like they did Motorola.

DiRtY5074d ago

BluRay uses a MS patent btw. and Sony sells Windows PCs.

Brownghost5074d ago

microsoft would have to pay royalties for blu ray usage

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Optical_Matrix5074d ago

It was legit. The fact a law firm who's client base consists of various companies INCLUDING Microsoft, got the source website to take down the document is very telling.

360GamerFG5074d ago

That response was laiden with so much meh!

CYCLEGAMER5074d ago

IMO, this would have been MS response no matter if the document was real or fake.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio13d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing12d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit12d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing12d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9212d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay14d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn215d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn214d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown15d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay14d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay14d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac14d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger15d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300015d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde15d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde14d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7516d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_14d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.