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5 Things Next Gen Actually Needs

"After yesterday’s article, we can talk about things that the next generation consoles actually need. This is a list of console and company policies that the big three developers ought to follow if they want to get this generation right and compete with their unexpected phone and tablet rivals." | Explosion.com

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Dms20125075d ago

Needs to be here soon is what it needs.

DarrenLambert5075d ago

Next Gen is already among us. PC now is "next gen" for consoles. Basically next gen graphics wise is better anti aliasing, Dx11, PhysX etc. Features already on the PC.

Rainstorm815075d ago

...and once the next gen consoles arrive PC will be all but forgotten power wise for the next 4-5 years...and then the cycle will continue and PC will get A game that completely outshines the next gen consoles ala BF3...

RevXM5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

A lot of the features and tech is here but it not really present in current games.

I game on PC too and to say that PC is already next gen is to inflate it a bit.

What is true is that the technology is here, both software and hardware it takes to make a significant leap. But Ive seen no developer push out a game yet that mirrors my vision of a next gen game.
What is available is basically more shiny versions of current gen games. But the tech demos from both EPIC and Square enix prooves we are there technically.

Hopefully things will change soon.
Tose who deny that current gen is not severly outdated and have a lot of juice left in terms of technical progress are delusional.

OneAboveAll5074d ago

Because everyone can play on a PC can't they? I have tendinitis in the wrist. It's not an option lest I want to have surgery.

Oh_Yeah5074d ago (Edited 5074d ago )

it needs to cook food, have an extended leg rest, and tell you how awsome you are when u turn it on. other than that much better physics capabilities, slightly better graphics, free online (ms), and the choice to purchase digital copies of games at launch for a 10$ discount making all games 50$ once again. is my only wants

Christopher5074d ago

***Better Motion Controls***

Disagree. Motion controls have not improved gaming at all this generation. It makes the repetitive motions more annoying as you are waving your arm about for a few hours rather than just managing what your fingers are doing while holding a comfortable controller. And, yes, for many games you actually have to wave your arm about and not just your wrist (I'm looking at you Sorcery). FPSes and TPSes will probably be 'okay' with motion controls, but not optimal overall. Especially considering it now means charging two controllers for two of the consoles over just the usual one.

Kinect is kind of the odd-man out here, but not much room for improvement on Kinect until they put out new hardware, IMHO. It is what it is, it does what it does well, but there's not much room for advancement until they improve what it can detect and the level of said detection.

***4. Backwards Compatibility***

Yes, people don't want to go through another cycle of buying HD+ upgrade games. If you want me to upgrade my console, you better make sure the 200+ games I own from this gen aren't going to require me keeping around an extra console or two just to play them. I don't have space in my living room for two different Xboxes and Playstations.

***3. Decent Internet Browser***

Disagree. Don't use a console for browsing the Web, never will. We've got much better devices. With tablets owned by almost 50% of the market, smart phones by more, and laptops in almost every home, there are much better and easier options for browsing the Web. You can even do it while you play a game or watch a movie.

***2. Skype or Live Chat***

This already exists for Microsoft and Sony. Never used either except to try it out a few times with a family member. Likely never will use it again. Have never had a request to chat via video, let alone VoIP. Keep it as it is, no need to do anything else with it, IMHO.

***1. Huge Third Party and Indie Support***

This will already happen. Third-parties are holding off on new IPs until the next generation. The support is already there. The only thing holding them up are the manufacturers.

Remmulak5074d ago

1. Next gen needs to get rid of DVD. Not enough space for games.

2. Need Hard Drives. People not having Hard Drives makes Open World games sad and linear.

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Laxman5075d ago

Great article, all very, very good points.

Was expecting to see some stupid 'Get rid of DRM and Online Pass' bullocks most of these 'Next gen' articles preach.

BuffMordecai5071d ago

So I guess you like like DRM and Online pass?

black9115075d ago

with the way Beyond Two Souls look PS4 can wait another 2 years.

metroid325075d ago (Edited 5075d ago )

The textures even in games like that are behind the times now with wiiu doing proper anti alaising with 1080p and 60fps and next gen lighting get a life PS3 is dated end of and the controls are crap on playstation now very old HAT.

RevXM5075d ago

Love my ps3 it was top notch and is the best purchase I have ever made.

But in these days it is very dated. It is probably dated when compared to wiiU, saying probably because we doesnt know much about its specs and none of the games shown for it this far have been impressive technically. I mean not next gen worthy, not anything like the UE 4 demo or the Square enix demo.
And WiiU doesnt look like a typical powerful machine.
First of all it is a tiny console, and thus it probably can't house proper hardware with efficient cooling.
Its going to be the most affordable/cheapest of all the next systems.
And it is Nintendo, they quit the tech race long ago.

Next gen needs to come around as soon as possible. The bigger the leap the better, but looking at the timeline both Sony and Microsoft are overdue announcing new consoles.
And I feel like the next consoles are needed for the whole industry. Not only to me and the new Tech demos proves this. I for One would like not only way more advanced pure visual stuff, but better AI, more physics and destruction to make games more believable, epic and cinematic.

Playing Motorstorm at home after buying the Ps3 was just EPIC.
All the details and responses and randomness made the game a winner and I still play it sometimes, for me Motorstorm is a benchmark for how a gritty arcade racer should be done.
Next gen need stuff that keeps blowing our minds.

MysticStrummer5074d ago

We've reached a point of diminishing returns in all the areas you mentioned. Next gen should focus on big improvements to things other than graphics, such as AI.

jimmins5075d ago

What next-gen needs is good tools for developers and Avatar-quality graphical capabilities.

That. Is. All.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot14d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle13d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7713d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay14d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn215d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn214d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown15d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay14d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay14d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac14d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger15d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300015d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde15d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde14d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Star Wars: Bounty Hunter Let Jango Fett Loose

LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7718d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!