when i buy one

so it means even the falcon chip ones have a %10 failure rate?

isn't that still too high

I'll be glad when it hits 1 percent or less.

Doesn't mean anything untill we have proof and not some BS post dug up by PS3 fanboys.

This is a revenge post from the PS3 yellow lights post probably was hunted down just after the Yellow light post and this was all they could find.

This is just a rumor, so it's probably still 50% or so.

10% is still terrible.

PS3's only at 0.2%

HAHA LMAO!

Wake me up when there aren't any failure rates at all, Microcrap.

at least microsoft is trying.... so far a 20 percent decrease of failure rate is really good, a big improvement....

shouldnt of gotten past 10% in the first place

one thing is for sure though, that claimed 33 percent failure rate is a lie........................... ...........its really 100 percent failure rate, some just last alittle bit longer then others.(no matter how much you wanna say im a fanboy, its true)

if the new ones are 10 percent, then who knows how long it will hold up after about 3 months of being around(if that failure rate will go up)

i guess thats why thier bringing out the jasper also.

sucks, because to be honest, i REALLY wanna play ninja gaiden 2 but i guess im just gonna have to beat it over my brother in laws house.

so if this is true and its reported 10 percent then i expect at least 15 percent because we all know current 360's are more then 33 percent.

so according to this, out of every 100 360's sold, 10 will break......................... ...........I EXPECT ALOT OF VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE AGAIN. sigh but who knows, this is just a rumour

Well Im on my second one and am actually waiting for the coffin, I mean box, to come so I can ship this one as it died last week. Im hoping I get a newer model. Another thing is Im removing it from my cabinet where i keep it with the ps3. When I ran my ps3 there the fans would kick on really loud and since Ive removed it it doesnt do it anymore. Im hoping i will have the same sort of success with my 360.

10% isn't bad- that's more like it M$, but i still despise your corrupt guts

anyway as i said 10% is a significant improvement for the 360, but i still wont be buying since all the games that interest me are on pc and it doesn't really have any other selling points or features that i can't do on my ps3 (well apart from the IPTV thing, but im not going to sit around waiting for big-arse film to download)

The failure rates are the reason why I haven't purchased a 360 because I don't want worry about my system breaking while playing a game.

I think RRoD is the resson the 360 numbers are not up with the wii.

when the 360 first launched, the number was low, until it was out for a while and the truth finally came out. but i guess we will find out soon enough.

and even if it is 10 percent(which is still unacceptable) 360s still freeze alot and have other problems.

TRUE STORY - i was at my brother-in-laws house and we were playing gears of war and it froze three times until he just shut it off.

@KAREEM. its funny that someone could disagree with what you said............lol.

@niall. actually i think rrod might have helped microsoft alittle bit........................... ...........IM SERIOUS.

alot of people upgraded to the ELITE and alot of people brought doubles. but hey, thats just MY OPINION.

Only 1% on the PS3 ;-D

that this stops the 360. But we know it won't. So why hasn't my Elite RR yet? Fake article

keep improving it and people may forgive ya but the fact that MS have refused to name the number shows the actual number was ludicrously high. The fact is MS should and probably know what the actually failure is.

Well done to the people who spoke up and didn't bury their heads and made MS listen. If the masses would have listened to certain members of this site MS would still be shafting more than they are. The thing is, in Europe the minimum manufactures warranty lasts 12 months and im sure the retailers were even getting pissed with MS. 1 thing for sure is that MS/360 will make it into business textbooks over this.

I bought the 360 around Christmas because people said falcon chip is better for not breaking down and I'm waiting for Lost Odyssy and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. It stopped working after 1 day. I still didn't get it back after sending it in :/ The one day it did work it froze on bioshock and had snow effects like what the old NES does back in the day. In addition, it's super loud. So far I'm very disappointed at xbox.

My PS3 however never gave me any problems playing movies or games. I'm looking forward to many new lineup this year with White Knight Chronicles on the Top of my list :D

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Unlike some of the people here I state things as is. This is what I experienced and not hearsay. Why would I want my system to breakdown just to prove a point.

I doubt the 360 failure rate is around 1-%. More likely it's still around 25 to 30%. Microsoft hasn't really done much to fix the real problem. The design. I still hear about a lot of 360s failing. The only thing that has changed is the warranty. That won't fix the RROD problem.

junkie poo poo Halobox

If you are dumb enough to stand your XBOX vertically on a carpet and block the biggest air inlet or put it into a tiny sealed entertainment center without ventilation it's your own fault if it red rings.

No matter how good the design is these are high performance electronics with appetite for power which generates considerable amount of heat. Out of about a dozen people i know personally only 2 of them had RROD after they did what i just described above (duh) and all had the first gen 360's.

I have 2 360 - elite and older premium and they are flawless so far - the new elite is lot more quiet and runs cooler too.

So quit hating and take this rumor with a grain of salt.

peace out,jump in :)

sub 10% and how long have the so called new 360's been out for and how manny have been sold ahh they dont mention that so i expect it to clim just tike everything eles

Maybe we'll see it go down to 3% within a few years.

More 360ers are Jumping the hell OUT, and Playing B3yond.

Whatch the PS fanboys munch on this rumor like flies on a sh*t :)

%10?that's still pretty damn high,oh well,I guess it's better than %33...LMFAO!XD

its still 33%. Dont believe the complany that said that hteir failure rates were originally less then 3%

With the most anticipated hits this year, as well as a stable console and stable free online system with a drive that plays the victorious hi-def format built right in, Playstation 3 is the smart choice for true gamers who don't like being bent over and buttraped by Microsoft, time and time again.

This choice is simple, the brand you trust, that won't bust. Playstation.

Playstation players worldwide LAWL at the teary-eyed Xbots loading their 3rd XJunk into it's cardboard coffin, waiting a month to recieve another system with RROD packed right in. But it's ok, the time has come for all the misguided Xgoons of the world to come to the Playstation brand. You know you want a PS3. You know you're going to miss the BEST titles of 2008 and b3yond if you don't get one. You KNOW Halo is overrated homoerotic poop. You don't have to lie to yourself.

Jump Out, while you still can. Microsoft will steal your soul. (AKA, wallet)

Is the 360 really that bad in quality? For months I thaught about buying one. I heard about the red rings, then I heard it was loud like a vaccum. I thaught I would buy one to play Halo 3 againest a friend, i know one friend who has a 360 and I ask him about the red ring and he says he has never gotten it before. but he also went out and baught a thrid party fan for it. I know I comment about the Ps3 but I am not bashing anysystem. I am an advid gamer who is debating about throwing his money on a 360.

Sad and pathetic.

wow 10% is still a bit high, espcially since the new falcon chips were installed, was kind hoping for a failure rate of at least in the single digits.
cmon MS get your act together

Good quality standard suppose to be around 3 standard deviation, or around 99.98%.

10% would be MUCH better than the 30% (or so) failure rate it has experienced so far. Could the Jasper model get it under 10%?

I hope we have seen the beginning of the end of the dreaded RRoD:I mean, I'm on my fifth 360 since Oct. 2006...anything that makes the hardware more reliable is certainly welcome.

... all they worry about is that ONE PS3 that had the YLOD!!!

Xbox 360: excellent games, sweet online, dodgy hardware. It's great Microsoft extended their warranty for the RRoD, but it seems a bit like a band aid if we're looking at the big picture. What happens when a 360 goes belly up 3 years + 1 month after purchase? Or 5 years later? 10? Buy another new one? Call it a loss? Gamers shouldn't have to consider what type of "coffin" they're going to need when they're buying a console. My old NES, SNES, and Genesis all still work like new well over a decade (or two) after purchase. No way the same will hold true for 360's. If you own a mint condition (or even functional) 360 in the year 2012, you may find yourself in the minority...

So the rumor is we're guessing the failure rate is 10% on new 360 units. I'm going to guess this rumor is just that; a rumor. I think Microsoft has gotten their act together with the hardware issues, but only time will tell. If my second 360 (a Falcon) fails on me, I will not return for a third round. I'll sell off all my games and stick with my Wii/PS3.

this is just false...it can't be true....there's no way!!!!

AHAHAHAHAHAH!

LMAO it's 10% as of now, what of course still sucks but just wait like 6 months xbots bwahahahahahaha

Its still at least twice as high as the industry standard, and are they really fixing the problem or are they just trying to get them past the 3 year warranty.

big drop from 33% to 10%. Impressive (could be a lie) But still not enough to beat PS3's 0.1% failure rate.

Even if they managed to eliminate the failure problem, i do not want to return to xbox 360.

because:

1) I dont trust Microsoft
2) I dont like xbox 360's green colour. Always reminds me of Shrek.
3) no decent games out. Most of them are FPS. Only game interests me are Test Drive and PGR. Sony has the best games since PS1.
4) Sony is the only one i trust. I own PS1,PS2, PSP and now PS3. I had not yet got a problem with them.

I have two 360's and none of them ever had the red ring of death syndrome, but they have had problems. The first one I bought I had to send back because the video wouldn't appear on my tv anymore, just the sound worked and the new elite I bought, the tray gets stuck all the time and never closes properly. I really think that the 360 has more problems then Micosoft wanted the public to know about. My friends 360's also had tray problems. I really think that after being on the market for over two years, that Microsoft should have these numbers down to at least 3 percent, but don't really care they would rather buy the customers support, then fix the problems with their console. Just my opinion.

And now I changed mine 3 times in one year.but its free.and, I just go in to the store and swop it. Easy. I stil love my 360,im nt paying to fix it,hell,im nt even waitin 4 it to be repaired. And I own 24 games,which I never thought I'd own in a year,but its a testament to how many great games there are on the 360

No, not all of you, just the fake assed ones who look for a make up sh1t like this post.

You see one (1) bad article about sony's ps3 going bad and then this sh1t is posted, lol, first off there's no 10% failure rate on the newer units, in fact there's been basically "N O" failures on the newer units and even some 2 yr. old units that go bad that are on 24/7 is kind of understandable isn't it.

If a ps3 is ever playe and or left on that much maybe you'll suffer an understandable failure too. What dumb asses.

Damn, that's a shame, because hardware reliability means a lot to some people, including me, and could be the deciding factor in whether a 360 gets sold or not.
Luckily for MS, people don't really educate themselves on what they buy before they purchase nowadays, which probably accounts for 5 million 360s sold.

I no longer own a 360, as it broke, and I threw it away. Now, I know that's a bit stupid, but I ended up getting a PS3 instead, so I came out of it better in the end.

At least I know my PS3 won't crap out on me, but I'm still going to take good care of it.

I don't want to end up like the dusty PS3 kid...

MS, as far as I knw.do nt physically take the thng and repair it themselves.reason being,they give tenders to other companies whom they pay. Nw. In South Africa, where I live, MS south africa has a tender in place for a company called JNC to repair it.since the 3yr warrenty,all 360s breaking due to falty drives and red ring are to be returnd to the store where it was purchasd and swopped for a new 1 ,with a new box.new asseseries, new headset new everythng.u just hold on to the HDD. I got mine frm Look And Listen and, returnd it 3 times. 2ce for tray mess ups that scratche my halo3.oh.which they replacd as well. And, I stil get my 3yr warrenty

10% is high, but much lesser than 33%... Yet, come to think of the product is made under the brand of world richest company, its unacceptable...

worst gaming system ever!

my opinion ... even dreamcast is better than the 360.

Wow MS needs to get there act together. 10% is still high.

If sony is so great and wonderful and they are going to win this console war, why do you PS3 funboy's need to even comment on this? Why don't you all go back to just cleaning the mud off of each other's helmets.

Which means out of 100 360's it went down from 33 of them dying to 10 of them dying. Which I think is understating it. I think it was more like 66% and now down to 33%. There's not one person I know that has an XBOX that hasn't had it die yet. Their just junk. There's no need for overheating period. i can see the occasional lemon here and there. That's understandable. But the rates for these machine's failing is unacceptable.

Put those rings together boys it's time for (((Sony Defense Force Activate)))

Know what is pathetic and sad to me? even with a 30% failure rate the 360 sold more consoles and games like they were made of money. So keep trying Sony Defense Force, we can all see how your "hard work" had payed off so far. LOL yeah with that last place console spot and NPD/worldwide numbers that destrpyed all those fantasy's you were all touting all month long :)

I will bet a $1000 that this new SDF doen't work, like all those before it. I tell ya, I have never seen more whiners and crying baby's in one group before. You PS3rd Drods realy don't like losing do you? to late looooooooosers! Now step up to the platform and accept your bronze medal in games and do somthing about that river of tears.

Even after this post by the SDF, the PS3rd will still be in last place. It's not even like it's a close last place, Wii and 360 are 3 laps ahead of you and are catching up to you running the slow walk. 120 million, that is where you were last round and now you a 7 million. So....bo somtime around 2025 you will reach that 120 mark :) To late droids, because while Sony was peddling plastic (please scratch me) movie disc, MS and Nintendo stole your install base. Ouch thats like being kicked in the nuts over an over again, I am starting to see why you guys cry so much about last place.

Xbox news = 90% Sony tolls, welcome to N4G where the Sony trolls live under bridges built by ((( Sony Defense Force Activate )))

RRoD, trays not closing, not reading disc, loud noise, etc etc.... and if you have your 360 stand up it will scratch your game disc. did I mention loud noise?
- and dont call me a troll. cuz I had I loved my 360. I know what Im saying. all of my friends who have 360 had and still having the same problems....
- I now have a PS3. and my friends have PS3 as well... none of us has to deal with such problems like 360's. .... 360 still having 10% rate problems? that's still high.

Bunch of liars if you ask me my friend bought his 360 two days ago and then he turns it in the very next day because of that RROD and he bought an Elite too.
PS3 has 1% failure rate maybe and the 360 still has 30% or more do the math.
I don't care if the 360 has more variety of games now since it's release if the hardware doesn't work or the console can't even turn on properly then what's the point.
After looking at this year the PS3 is starting to shoot off like crazy now people are starting to get the hint that the PS3 is the future.

its still higher and growing and if it was down to 10% the company themselves would have announced it not this journalist that is writing and confirming it is 10% and for BLUR111 how can the XBox 360 fans play games if there console keeps breaking down think before you type down dumb comments!.

Rumours.

33%, Having a 10% failure rate with an install base of about 17.7mil(correct me if I'm wrong) is still just as bad...

Genuine is out of bubbles for this topic. I find his liberal use of the word Nazi to more offesive than anything either side of the fanboys have to say. Free speach or not references like that to the biggest killing machine in history should not be tolerated Think before you offend!!!

I'm amazed at people still denying that there are any issues with RROD on 360's?
I understanfd that this report is simply a umour of where the failure rate has dropped to, but everyone knows the issue is not fixed.
Amoung other things I'm a administrator on several games site - one of which has 250K users. There have lots of reports and complaints from users of the newer sku's who have had problems - theres no question that hardware failures still happen, its just the level of failure thats more difficult to establish.
As someone who'd had RROD twice myself, and doesn't personally know anyone with a 360 who hasn't had it at least once, I know it is a huge issue for the machine, and I'd genuinely like to know what progress they have made in fixing an obviously very poor design. I've not had any problems with the machines operation (except its a bit loud), and when its working it plays some great games. But I can't think of any piece of home electronic equipment ever thats been more prone to failure?
how some of the posters in this sectio can pretend ther'e no issue is beyond belief!

we never had these problems with the commodore 64.

who don't own an 360, worrying on the behalf of those who do! Why do you care? You are too wrapped up in paranoia to say anything worthwhile.Please, let us make our poor choice of console and enjoy the poor games it provides.Begone with your yawn inducing rhetoric.

do they really tell us what is their console failure rate ?

They probably lower the actual percentage of failures that they have.
And this is funny because one of my friends who always talks about how his 360 hasn't broken and explaining that there is a method to avoiding the RROD has just gotten the RROD. When will people realize MS has just completely dropped the ball on their hardware.

looks like i wont be getting my replacement 360 for another while yet. hope they get it sorted before gears2.

A word to the wise
When you purchase your XBox
Buy replacement plan

The only store who will replace it under only one year is COSTCO, but you need to buy a membership to all those poor mutherf@ckers out there who would love to get burned by purchasing a plagued 360.

Much Better than 40GB PS3s' %40 BD-Rom failure rate

over a 100 hours on Oblivion
over 100 hours on gears
over 100 hours on Halo3
alot of time on COD4
Probably 300+ hours on GH2 & GH3 (Gets left on overnight too!)
Halfway through mass effect,
not even mentioning Forza, PGR, and probably 15 other games Ive played alot.

I have no worries, my 360 is a beast, but so is my PS3, though it doesnt have nearly as much time on it.

The Sony Club is loving this. Good for you this rumor should give you guys something new to talk about till 2009.

Oh wow... someone had to resurrect that rumor. I think that one lasted like 3 hours before they had to retract the story...

Seriously bud... if that was true.. we would have heard it forever.

My friends have had 360s for about 8-9 months now. I've had mine for 6. They haven't had problems, I haven't had problems.

When I use my 360, I REALLY make sure that I use it well. For one, I have it in a well ventilated area, and the air holes are free. I also try not the leave the thing on when I'm not playing, i.e turn it of as soon as I'm done. I also try not to play the thing for freakin' 20 hours straight.

Basically, I use it like I use my stereo system...and it's working very well so far.

Still, when you have to feel LUCKY about having your console working, it's a big problem.

No problems with me neither.

...

If rrod didn't exist, the sony guys would be posting something else to try and convince themselves that the PS3 is better. If the 360 is such a worthless piece of garbage, why waste your time talking about it all the time? Since we're sharing personal stories about the rrod death, here's mine. I have a launch day 360. No problems. Probably because I allow my 360 to breathe. That hot air blowing out the back has a place to go instead of being trapped inside of an entertainment center. I will say that I know about 30 other 360 owners and that at least half of them have experienced rrod, but they all had it repaired and sent back and I don't know any of them who've had to ship it off more than once. Since Microsoft repairs your console for free and is making an effort to eliminate the problem, why is this such a rage-filled issue with you guys?

To everyone who states that they have never had a problem . How long have you had you xbox360? I would be pissed if my 360 broke right after the the Msft 3 year warranty expires. Am I making you paranoid?
If so you could always purchase another 2 year warranty extension after the three years are up if anyone will sell you one. I hear Gamestop stop selling extended warranties on Xbox 360. I wonder Why?

Because the 360 failure-rate was actually somewhere between 70 and 80%.
Now its prolly 20-30%.
Every 360 forum you go you still see ppl complaining.

Thank god i own a ps3 now instead of my unique 360. Glad i got rid of it, it was just a matter of time anyways before RROD....

You know what I think? Microsoft rushed out this console way too fast. This shows that they really don't care about their customers. All they care about is the money because if they did care, they would have tried to do something more about these issues. Sony cares a lot about their customers, like some guy said up there in the discussion. They work to constantly improve their products. It annoys me when good games like Ninja Gaiden are still on the 360 and the PS3 isn't given a damn chance...except with Ninja Gaiden Sigma and that's it. There's barely any faith in the PS3 and that's very, very sad.

I don't hate the 360, but I also don't like the fact that people have to spend so much money to get a new console every time something breaks down.

That's my two cents-you can either agree or disagree. Either way, this console war is stupid and childish. People should be having intelligent conversations about the systems, not fight over which console is king.