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Xbox 720 and PS4 Already Irrelevant?

GTMAM writes:

Technology in the gaming world moves fast, and the PS4 and Xbox 720 might not be able to keep up, even though they are nowhere near release. Sometime last year people began noticing that their current consoles were getting old and questions started being thrown at the big developers. Questions about when the next-gen systems were coming and what exactly they were capable of. Of course Sony and Microsoft didn't say a word, and the things we heard from Nintendo were exciting but about on par for what we expected.

GribbleGrunger5098d ago

for the time being, i would say yes.

OC_MurphysLaw5098d ago

For the time being... all we "know" is speculation and rumor. People probably thought the 360 and PS3 would become outdated a year or two after launch but instead 6+ years later both are producing quality titles that don't feel outdated.

You just can't judge the tech of a console with a PC mindset. What is irrelevant in the PC would easily can be relevant and cutting edge in a console depending on how its implemented or tweaked on the back end for the console.

Thatguy-3105098d ago

No one cares about ps gaming. Yea the market is there but consoles are more mainstream. It's obvious that the PC is more powerful and evolves at a fast pace but cmon only hardcore gamers play on them. Many people like me haven't touch the pc to play video games like many pc fanboys on here make it seem.

xTHRASHx5098d ago

i think you would find, as i did when i made the switch, that it is MUCH more rewarding to play on pc. shit i never touch a mouse and i still enjoy it xD

reynod5098d ago (Edited 5098d ago )

"No one cares about ps gaming."

Lol. You need to check out:

http://store.steampowered.c...

h311rais3r5098d ago

Yea the over 5 million active at 1 time steam users are completely irrelevant and no one cares about them. Also the pc gaming market makes billions each year. Ur just a console fanboy who knows absolutely nothing about the other product.

If ur going to say pc gaming is only for the hardcore (which is false) I am going to say "console gaming has spawned the over saturation of dumbed down games and has allowed developers to rape them with dlc and they just take it because the casual crowd just takes whatever they are given and don't fight for anything"(also not true, but hey he wants to be ignorant towards millions of people)

KilL7roCitY5098d ago

PC will always be the number one choice for real gamers.

upgrades.. no bs outdated hardware 1 year after launch...

pc ftw.

WeskerChildReborned5098d ago

Yea but PC gaming is still expensive to others while consoles are just simple machines.

T9005098d ago

In the long run its the consoles that are more expensive.

500usd PCs run circles around consoles, they have been doign so since the last couple of years. Diffrence is consoles stay at a price of 300usd, while performance stays stagnant. While PC of the same price just keeps getting better.

First 200usd difference isnt exactly bank breaking. Its the price most people pay for a new console, then end up paying more for every game bought, also pay to go online and have no assurity if all those games will work next gen. With PC all of that is different.

Here is a link to a 500usd PC that runs most games out today in 1080p, hell it will even run games in 1080p while doing 3d.

http://www.tomshardware.com...

I think people saying PCs are expensive are living back in 2000, today things are much different.

WeskerChildReborned5098d ago

@T900 Yea i know their are some PCs that are pretty cheap but i don't think casuals are gonna wanna spend over $500 on a PC unless the next gen is the same price but i doubt it. From what i heard, Next gen consoles could be from $300-$400 and it will be updated hardware. Like i said, it's just that consoles are pretty simple compared to owning a PC which requires quite some money to keep to date like that one new video card that was i think around $900 not sure exactly. Consoles are just simple for casual and some core gamers.

T9005098d ago

Sure we have graphics cards that cost 1000usd, however those are not required to game. Most people would be happy with a 200usd gpu, and wont really need to upgrade for 2-3 years atleast.

Comparing a 1000usd GPU to a console is very unfair, its like comparing a Ferrari to a toyota Tercel. Hell the 200usd GPU would look like a BMW to the consoles tercel.

Loki865098d ago

Relevency is a loose term, it would be complete relevent to people who don't have 800-1000 dollars to put down a true gaming machine.

Honest_gamer5098d ago

well we can guess that the hardware in the ps4/next xbox will be atleast two years old by the time they come out as there is probably dev kits out in epic etc right now, sure this will be to just give them an idea on what to develop for, the hard ware will likly stay around the same, (this is asumming they started to develop it last year and it comes out next year), so as soon as its released its outdated unless its using nvidia geforce 680 gtx's and ivy bridges etc which come next year they too will be outdated with the newer version, theres no way for the ps4/next xbox to stay up to date unless they make them customizable (i'e i can add in more ram myself, change the proccessor etc, but this opens up more than it solves)

theWB275098d ago

This article was irrelevant before it was submitted.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio24d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing24d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit24d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing24d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9224d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted26d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8526d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele26d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk25d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay25d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10126d ago (Edited 26d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit25d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg25d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10125d ago (Edited 25d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14926d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay26d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn226d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn225d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown26d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay26d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay26d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac25d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger26d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300026d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde26d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde25d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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