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A look into Microsoft’s E3 2012 conference: Rumor

Gameguru.in writes "A source close to us reveals that Microsoft has an exhilarating line-up planned for this year’s E3. What you are about to read is only rumor though; that is, until Microsoft confirms it. And with E3 2012 right around the corner, the internet is overflowing with snippets of new games across all platforms."

N47H115091d ago

Halo 4, New Gears Game, New forza and a load of kinect games is exactly what to expect from Microsoft at E3..... ZZZzzzzzzz!!!

Prince_Dim-Lu5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

You must be excited to hear Sony talk about how it's going to be the year of the PS3 again.

What do you want from MS at this E3?

Edit for the guy who commented below.

Are you not getting games? Like I post below yours. Are you not playing COD, Batman, Gears, Forza, BF, Assassins Creed, Bioshock, Red Dead, GTA's, Maddens and all the rest of these games you guys are crying about?

Those are games. Those aren't kids games... and they're almost always better on the 360.

Why the crying for games, when we have games? Because the games are there. And nice way to break it down to being bought on PC or PS3 exclusives. Like everyone out there has a gaming PC. LMAO... nice quantifiers to make your argument.

PS... Sony Exclusives the last few years have bombed as well. Ya, you get a few gems in there.. .but Sony exclusives are over talked about by PS fanboys. They don't rank that high on Metacritic besides the favs like Uncharted and LBP.

How's that low rated GT5 that Forza blows away treating you?

fossilfern5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

Games ? Is that not the whole point of owning a console. And im not talking games that can be bought on PC or PS3 I'm talking good games for the 360 and not this kinect crap, look at Sonys exclusive the past few years! Its something for everyone

@Jelly Jelly

Yes they are games and the Arcade is the only great thing MS has pushed but alot of those games dont come directly from mircosoft. Im talking big AAA games that MS has no interest in investing in.

N47H115091d ago

I own both consoles and have not preference, especially when it comes down to pathetic 'My consoles better than yours' arguments, but there is not ANY fresh or original ideas coming from Microsoft, just sequels/Prequels milking franchises to the max, and spending a ridiculous amounts of money gaining timed exclusive DLC. Microsoft need to invest more into creating some more new/original IP's to entice their gaming audience, as i for one am getting bored of mundane shooters that Microsoft feel the need to recycle and re sell each year!

supraking9515091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

you guys have games? i thought xbox 360 was just a video streaming Netflix box. Everything MS has as of late is put out apps for the system lol. 360 used to be about the games now its about a Halo, Gears and Forza game every year and they all turn out mediocre and no change from the previous title. Give me an exclusive that I wont play for 2 weeks and return to playing old online titles. There making 360 gamers look like they play one game a year lol. Its as if they went on the sad CoD route. MS get some new IP's then I'll consider turning your system on once again.

JellyJelly5091d ago

@fossilfern - There's tons of exclusives on XBLA that can't be played on the PS3 or PC.

Trials Evolution, Shadow Complex, Alan Wake's American Nightmare, Fez, Bloodforge, Iron Brigade, Bastion etc. Not to forget the upcoming Deadlight which looks amazing.

Or are those not games either?

hellvaguy5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

"ANY fresh or original ideas coming from Microsoft, just sequels/Prequels milking franchises to the max"

Because God of War 3, Killzone 3, Twisted Metal 6, Uncharted 3, and Metal gear solid 10 are all the very first in the series and definitely are not sequels......sequels are evil I tell u the devil.....except must get the next sequel to Gran turismo part 6.

LOL gotta love these hypocrytes. I respect a coherent/logical fanboy argument, but the failures where the person is stretching the "truth" and in general, trying way to hard, make me laugh.

Anyways, want next gen now, not laterz!

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dark-hollow5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

" Uh...so does PSN? Better ones at that and (as what usually happens)"

what? ps3 line up of retail games is sure way better than the 360s, no debate, but psn games better than XBLA games?

if there is one thing that the 360 truly shine in, is the arcade titles!

TheFirstClassic5091d ago

Some of yall need to calm down. Really though, there isn't much of a point to the multiplat argument, usually the differences are too small to even notice. Also, many ps3 multiplats get additional free content, like AC1 with revelations, bf 1943 with bf3, and bioshock 1 with infinite.

But the ps3 has just been getting more exclusives these past years. Just last year, it got infamous 2, Killzone 3, lbp 2, Resistance 3, and Uncharted 3, all great games. All the 360 really got was Forza and Gears, can't reall count halo anniversary because its a remake.

But for me, the only thing on 360 that interests me is halo. I got a ps3 for infamous, uncharted, mgs, resistance, killzone, demon's souls, warhawk, and plenty more. There are just a lot more games on ps3 that interest ME... But seriously, these console arguments can get pretty retarded.

Outside_ofthe_Box5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

lol I can't wait until the next GT comes out. It will definitely get a higher score on metacritc than any Forza to date as I know PD won't repeat the same mistakes and the sales will obviously be higher. Then we'll see all the excuses come into play; GT has a huge following, it's overrated, sales =/= quality, the critics were paid off to give it a high score, etc.

GT5 is definitely better in regards to being a simulator than any Forza to date. Most critics even say that GT5 as a simulator is a 10/10, but of course all you here people talk about is how Forza out rates it in metacritic and they ignore the sales because it doesn't favor it, but when it comes to Halo and Gears, surprise, surprise sales all of a sudden the sales talk starts come out.. lol

DarkBlood5091d ago

alan wake american nightmare is coming to pc so thats not really exclusive

Dante1125091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

I like how exclusives suddenly don't matter anymore. I wonder if that will carry over into next gen when deciding on which console to buy?

@ King

QFT. Now some of the loyalists here are arguing that XBLA's "exclusive games" are relevant and better than the PSN games lol. Wow, that switch up was sudden ("Exclusives don't matter...exclusives do matter...um..only XBLA and PSN exclusive games matter" XD)

cobblestone195091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

Are you actually defending MS? Here's some news for you. Sony has released high rated content the whole Gen. MS has like a fourth of the high quality games of Sony. And it isn't 2008 any more. Multi-plats are usually the same on both systems and most (with the exception of COD) have exclusive DlC on the Ps3. And forza to Gt5? Not to sound cliché but... Which game sold better? Silly, hopeful shitbox fanboys. Pretending MS is gonna turn it out at E3. lol

CoolBeansRus5090d ago (Edited 5090d ago )

I own all three consoles and i have no preference. I will tell you that most games are better on the 360 like cod and bf3 witch were a nightmare on the ps3, but Sony has more exclusives. .
I now only buy games for all three systems on the PC. So my preference is PC i guess.
PS3 fanboys always rush to these 360 articles to bash it in hopes that it will make them feel better about their system and it's sad.

Sony was great when it had no competition, but now it does... get over it! Stop pretending they are so great, they mess up too. PS VITA?! HACKERS FOR A MONTH?!and the fact their console is harder to develop on that's why these multi-platform games are always so glitchy on the ps3. Stop with the weak arguments like "They just don't know how to harvest the power" when the truth is that it's a design that is not as universal.

Enjoy E3, MSFT, NIN and Sony will do great.

@ Cobpswii360, How long did it take for Sony to release GT5 again? And how many copies did that fanboys think it was going to sell? Stop pretending like that was a smooth ride.
Still waiting for that Halo, remember?!

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Patriots_Pride5091d ago

This is a strange E3 becuase normally we get shit storm of leaks but this E3 we got some but nothing that would leave you like awe.

Its either that the big 3 dont have anything new hardware wise to show or they keeping every little thing under lock and key

aviator1895091d ago

How many times are we honestly going to see the same repetitive comment being proclaimed over and over?...

I think the majority of us get the idea by now.

JAMurida5091d ago

After two years of being on this site, I've learned to just ignore it. People LOVE going around in circles on this site.

Mottsy5091d ago

Squares are better then Circles!

fossilfern5091d ago

F**K!I just want to give MS a huge slap and shake them and ask them wtf they are doing! If it wasn't for the hardcore with the first Xbox MS wouldnt be in the position they are now! I'm not a huge fan of the 360 as I felt it was a step backwards from the original but atleast it had games!

Then MS buy Rare and they release SOME games and they are average but not totally bad, but now Rare is just a shovelware company! Where is our Killer Instinct, where is our true Banjo game, where is our Perfect Dark, WHERE IS JET FORCE GEMINI! My God MS how are you this bad? 3 Bloody games that are all sequels? What a joke

Prince_Dim-Lu5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

The MS insider on my site has told me that Perfect Dark will be a "720/Durango" launch game.

You know what though? I'm so tired of cry babies crying about 'hardcore" games and gamers. As far as I know, I'm playing hardcore games like BF3 and COD and Gears and Forza and Batman and Assassins Creed and all the rest on my Xbox 360. Where are all these hardcore games I'm missing?

WHere?

And why is it that month after month the 360 continues to outsell the rest of the consoles month after month here in the most important place to sell video games. The USA.

Edit.. you can't win with guys like you that bring up the PC version of games. Not everyone has a gaming PC like I said above.

Sorry if there's not enough MS exclusives for you. That's one thing. Saying there's no games though.. that's BS. There are plenty of games. Plenty of them out there.

@N47H11 a few post above...... classic how you say all MS has are prequels and sequels. LMAO... ya, because the best Sony PS3 games haven't been.. Uncharted PART 2... KILLZONE 3... Infamous 2.. (i hear infamous 3 will be announced at this e3) LBP 2 and so on.... ALL OF THESE GAMES ARE SEQUELS!!! GRAN TURISMO.... FREAKING PART FIVE!!! LOL... come on man!

fossilfern5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

"BF3 and COD and Gears and Forza and Batman and Assassins Creed" And only two of them can be bought on 360 while the others are on PC and PS3 (and arguably better on PC) but MS themselves have no games to speak of. And leaving Perfect dark for the next Xbox? So basically we have been given a bad entry to the series and a HD revamp of an N64 game?

And so what if it sells do you get that much satisfaction out of playing the 360 knowing its selling well regardless if the games can be bought else ware? Thats like me buying a book and not enjoying it and saying "Well it was a bad book but im glad I bought it because it has sold millions"

Edit: Forgot to mention; Yes the USA is important but its not THE only important region, Europe, Australia the rest of North America like Canada ? So companies should forget about the rest of the world and focus on the USA?

fossilfern5091d ago

Yes I know and I never said there were no games but they can be acquired on the PS3 & PC. I know people dont have gaming PCs or have the money for gaming PCs but alot of them games can be bough on a PS3 and also the WiiU when it comes out. MS has given no good reasons to hold on to a 360 other than flooding kinect games into it.

MS have franchises to use but they dont seem to care all they want to focus on is Halo, Forza, and Gears, with Halo being the only good one out of the bunch

supraking9515091d ago

Where are the hardcore games that MS used to have exclusively on there system? They failed with Perfect Dark Zero, and there Halo and Gears games got stale.
Meanwhile Sony doesnt care about sales but continues pushing out new games only for there system. Looks like sales doesnt matter as MS with all that money and there #1 ranking month after month still cant pull out a new IP out of there butt?
Is MS only caring about exclusive 1 month DLC? or Apps that I would rather use on my pc or phone?

Id be embarrass if I only had 360 as my only system.

Patriots_Pride5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

@SupraKingkabra - Your naive to think that Sony does not care about sales - A business primary objective is to make a profit and if Sony really does not care about sales then maybe thats why they have been in the red year after year - how long do you think Sony can keep this up before share holders start getting frustrated and bail out because Sony is spending x amount on money on games and R&D and not seeing a profit or barley breaking even.

The reason Sony is pushing so many exclusives and free online is because they have to, they never expected this gen to turn out this way where Nintendo is the number one selling console and MS who is very new to the game console industry to pick up so much steam in the USA.

If things had went they way Sony planned where a large amount of PS2 owners had purchased a PS3 for $600 then we would be seeing a different more cocky and arrogant Sony instead of a humble Sony. If Sony could charge you for online they would but the truth is they cant because they screwed up at launch with releasing a very expensive console with little games and they had to find a way to get back those PS2 gamers that could not afford a PS3 and bought a 360 instead.

Torkith5091d ago

I'm not sure why you keep bringing up Gran Turismo 5. The series originally released in 1997, so 5 games in 15 years. One this generation. While Forza originally released in 2005 has had 4 games in 7 years; with a fifth, Horizon on the way. So that makes 4 releases of Forza this generation.

Attempting to justify yourself based solely and the number of the current released game isn't going to work.

Outside_ofthe_Box5091d ago

***Where are all these hardcore games I'm missing?"***

You answered your own question at the end of your post. :D

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Y_51505091d ago

I want Microsoft to impress me enough to buy their console finally. There's only a few stuff I would like to play on the system, it's nowhere near worth it when I have a PS3 and had a Wii.

dubt725091d ago

Did you really end your argument with a wii? Lol, just bustin' balls...

Y_51505090d ago

I can name at least 7 games on the Wii that I would rather play before considering buying an Xbox.

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from the beach5091d ago

Nice preview, I think if Microsoft's keynote features all the things that have been rumoured over the past few weeks it will more than deliver both in terms of new games and tech and on-stage demo hilarity.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio11d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing11d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit11d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing11d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay13d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn214d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn213d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown13d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay13d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay13d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac13d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger13d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300013d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde13d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde13d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7515d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_12d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.