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What If Square Never Left Nintendo?

1UP- For RPG fans of the early 1990s, Square practically had their own branch on the Nintendo family tree. This held especially true on the Super NES, where Square came into its own with Final Fantasy IV and VI, Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, and wealth of Japan-only releases that loomed just out of reach for Americans. By the end of 1995, the union seemed solid. Nintendo's long-awaited Nintendo 64 system was on its way, and would be home to Square's next Final Fantasy.

There seemed no reason to worry until the spring of 1996, when those same RPG fans opened game magazines and learned that Final Fantasy VII wouldn't release in the form of a Nintendo 64 cartridge. It was now headed for the Sony PlayStation, as with every other game Square planned to make for the latest generation of consoles.

By the end of the year, Square sewed up a publishing agreement with Sony, and their first PlayStation release, the fighter Tobal No. 1, sat on store shelves. It came as quite a surprise to players who'd effectively grown up with RPGs on Nintendo systems.

NukaCola5106d ago (Edited 5106d ago )

Funny thought. Even though FF VII was on PS1, the over world Cloud was a 64bit block character. lol

Snookies125106d ago (Edited 5106d ago )

Hah! Everything about FFVII was amazing... Except the character models. XD
They were atrocious compared to everything else, though at the time it was acceptable.

StayStatic5105d ago

The models reminded me of playmobil figures xD

wishingW3L5105d ago

at least we still have the PC mods. With it you can use the character models used in the random battles which look miles away better but not as refined as those of FF8 though.

123_3215105d ago

If Nintendo weren't so greedy at the time then Sony Computer Entertainment would never have existed. Square would not have had a worthy competitor to go to.

beerkeg5105d ago

Do you not think that the reason for Nintendo not going with Sony in the end may have been because Sony wanted too much out of the deal? They may well have demanded a bigger cut than Nintendo was prepared to commit to.

We may never know, but I don't think it's as clear cut as Nintendo being too greedy.

123_3215105d ago (Edited 5105d ago )

You're probably right.
Actually i think they were both being a bit greedy.
Too bad though, because a Sony-Nintendo partnership would have been awesome.

CLOUD19835105d ago (Edited 5105d ago )

GreenRanger disagree with u SONY & Nintendo is 2 completely different fruits, the classic Mario/Zelda/Metroid triangle of Ninti have nothing to do with Uncharted/MGS/GoW/InFamous/Kil lzone/Resistance/Demon's Souls/Heavy Rain/Yakuza & many other PS only games.

It's obvious that SONY concentrate 80%+ on hardcore gamers with more mature games & Ninti 80%+ on casual & little kids games, and that's obvious from the console design the PS3 is the strongest console in the market capable of run full HD games & the Wii the exactly opposite with PS2-like graphic quality and other than that it's the joystick design, hardcore gamers dont care about motion controls at all.

That's why I prefer those 2 on separate ways they target different markets I dont see them as competitors, SONY & Nintendo have a different philosophy and that's ok, variety is always good that way gamers have options we can choose what is more to our tastes.

dark-hollow5105d ago (Edited 5105d ago )

"Ninti 80%+ on casual & little kids games

what's casual or kiddie about Zelda or metroid?
Does including bloods and sexual themes makes it "mature" enough for your tastes?

dmixwell5105d ago

not sure how Final Fantasy would have turned out. could have gone both ways (good or Bad)but Kingdomhearts would have been ten times better with the addition of Hyrule , Mushroom kingdom, planet Zeebes.

FinaLXiii5105d ago

Kingdom Hearts its a franchise that was born from Final Fantasy´s sucess on the Playstation in the first place.

dmixwell5105d ago

i hear ya. but to be honest final fantasy was on the rise before playstaion. and if the 64 would have homed ff7 im sure it would have been just as great maybe even greater than the ff7 we know today.with that being said kingdom hearts would likely have still happened, and combining Nintendo characters with the FF6 , FF7, would have turned out awesome. comon a master sword keyblade, sora in a raccoon suite , mario and mickey swinging keyblades.... the gamecube needed that

FinaLXiii5105d ago

If square never left nintendo FF franchise probably would never have the chance to go big.

But ironicly its FF that made what Square Enix is today.

Whitey2k5105d ago

wait they cant say that if sqaure didnt leave nintendo it should be what if square didnt merge with enix!! cos since then FF been really rubbish!

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U.S. patent examiner rejects Nintendo’s summoning characters patent as obvious: non-final ruling

The rejection is non-final (and even when such rejections are labeled as “final”, the process is far from over, given that there can be, at minimum, an appeal to the Federal Circuit).

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Relientk7744d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Metacritic's 2026 Game Publisher Rankings

Jason Dietz: "We reveal the past year's best and worst video game publishers (based on their 2025 releases) in the 16th edition of our annual Game Publisher Rankings."

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Christopher51d ago

Take note, Sony, you're falling behind by a lot.

-Foxtrot51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

I was just going to say this, their biggest and top rated game here is TLOU2 for PC….it’s embarrassing.

Even Ubisoft and EA are ahead

Kind of surprised Nintendo is pretty low aswell, their biggest game is also a rerelease with the Switch 2 version of TotK.

StoneColdCrazy50d ago

That’s what happens when you start shutting down your own studios and forget what actually made you matter in the industry in the first place. Sony used to set the standard — now it feels like they’ve lost that identity. And if they decide to walk away from the PC market too, that’s going to be another huge mistake — that platform is only growing, and ignoring it now would just put them even further behind.

1Victor50d ago

@christopher:” Take note, Sony, you're falling behind by a lot.”
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Why single out Sony? Microsoft didn’t do any better than the year before 5th same as Sony 9th and they have acquired activision and other mayor titles that have boosted their score massively from a 9th and Sony a 4th the year before the acquisitions.
Sony does need to do better without a doubt and I do hope they do take note but not the note of buying publishers is the way to succeed.

Christopher50d ago

1. Microsoft didn't get worse.
2. Sony got way worse.
3. Because Sony needs the criticism the most considering their publishing output this generation has been propped up by last gen ports and third-party developers for the most part.

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thesoftware73050d ago

1Victor,

I don't wanna speak for Christopher, but like most of us we recognize that Sony's output this Gen has been way below their own standards.

Also Sony did buy a fair amount of Devs, I know you will say they were not publishers, and don't compare in size, but they had their fair share of Aquisitions, including the very well established Bungie.

The overall point is with their stellar first party track record of the past, they should not be going down, they are singled out because they are some of the best videogame devs/publisher on the planet...no matter what reasons we attribute to the situation, they are moving in the wrong direction... period.

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KyRo50d ago

Its widely accept that Sony this generation has been underwhelming. We've had more peripheral releases, controller variants, PS5 accessories than games it feels like. The exclusives were also PS4 and what little output they have put exclusively on PS5 is nowhere near as memorable as what came in every generation before that.

This isn't a Sony hate post but anyone who's older and has been around for a long time gaming will agree that PS5 is by far Sony's worst generation. As much as Xbox is in the gutter, I pray the do bounce back in the hope we get Sony to wake up again.

darthv7249d ago (Edited 49d ago )

If you want to critique MS... you are doing so towards their management. The games output and their hardware have been much better than PS this gen. Sadly... people still hold a grudge against XB because of MS. Thankfully i am not that petty... I've been enjoying their games output in the drought of PS. And add in some NS1/2 games as well to balance things out. Things will change for me once Wolverine hits, and I start using my 5 more. That one I'm looking forward to. And the Marvel fighter... I'm not a GTA player so that has no bearing on my view of things.

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Profchaos50d ago

Big part of that has been the live service push resulting in cancellation or flop after flop but when they put out the games their fans want we get amazing stuff like astro bot

Leadership really screwed the pooch trend chasing

1Victor50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

https://www.metacritic.com/...

https://www.metacritic.com/...
Well I apologize I was wrong about not doing worse but my statement of Microsoft getting a boost still stand 🤷🏿

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1Victor50d ago

Well OBSCURED unlike you I’m honorable enough to recognize when I’m wrong and apologize.
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@ The software you know there’s no comparison between what Microsoft acquired and what Sony acquired that’s why you tried to get ahead of the conversation, yes we all know Sony can do better than what they have done this gen but they inhaled the poison GAS they thought would bring money for years but we make sure they got the message and quite a few games got cancelled you know as well a hit like that take years to be corrected and by now they hopefully will have taken steps away from the GAS and slowed their approach to them.

bsingle4050d ago

You will say anything when you are in denial that your hardware is dead and nobody wants your platform. Good luck with Helix because nobody will buy it.

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SimulationDaily51d ago

But... but... the garbage-mongers always tell us that Square Enix is in trouble! 😂

Christopher51d ago

Square doesn't help that it fear mongers itself with ridiculous 'goals' that they can't reach and then they proclaim failure if they don't reach it. They're quite freaking profitable and people act like they're dying.

SimulationDaily51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Keep in mind that these "proclamations" are usually third-hand bad translations from somedude who was at the investor conference, posted on Twitter, and picked up by press and youtubers like they were gold, and then when the official translation comes out, they're much softer statements, but at that point, the damage is done.

gold_drake50d ago

to be very fair

being number one on these things does not indicate how "well" their games do selling wise.

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Nintendo Completes Share Repurchase and Sets Price for Secondary Offering

Nintendo completed its share repurchase and set its secondary offering price at 8,347 yen ahead of March 16 delivery.

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