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BosMa

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User Review : Sleeping Dogs

Ups
  • Visuals
  • gameplay
  • open world feels "alive"
Downs
  • washed out distance
  • quirky cam at times pulling out or backing up in car

Dear Activision, YOU BLEW IT !!!

Ok first observations of this game before picking up :
Hong Kong
Open world/ Sandbox game
Activision dumped it onto their lawn.
Made by United Front... WHoa what huh? United front? Little big planet United front? Hmmm, not too sure about this.

But the fact is that i have been keeping my eye on Sleeping Dogs since it was dumped by Activision, hoping this would blow up in their face , jk :) Actually im not : |

So it was a day 1 buy for me and with the price point being somewhat reasonable along w/ decent incentives for pre-order from steam i waited for midnight, fingers crossed, waiting to play this game.

I also own a PS3 and although i do own a solid gaming rig i often buy games via PS3 for reasons that may sound a bit extreme to some.
I cant wait for a game to launch on pc, i must have it now because i am a game junkie and as we all know sometimes games are released on p.c. later than consoles or not at all and sometimes if i think a game can push my graphics card and that i was robbed beauty i will buy again for p.c. if not i wont bother w/ console port that lacks little or no p.c. support, this will come in handy after the review.

REVIEW

I remember playing out the first footchase/action sequence which followed the opening cutscene thinking "well that was nice, only hope the game can deliver more of this". It was nothing out of the norm in terms of run away , jump and dodge but it did bring a feeling of finese and the world i was in and the ondjects around me was in fact playing a large roll in the "finese" and thats when i started to really anticipate what would happen next.

What happened next is the "finese" brought a level of immersion which is not available in many games today, the table shifting exactly how it should when jump slidng over it, the chickens getting rattled when smashing chicken cages, the water kicks back while my heals cut into the wet pavement and all the "little" things which not only add to immersion but also brings a layer of polish which i love in a game aka detail. Making the open world feel alive rather than just there.

This game w/ high tex pack can simply make the eyes smile at times, the lighting against a fresh hong kong city can be simply stunning especially at night on a rainy night. The neon lights mirrors off the wet ground, can almost smell the smoke floating upwards from a pedestrians cigarette, pipes exploading with hot steam and the cars seem to have the best polish job money can buy, seeing the reflection of hong kong on the quarter panel as i drive around, well you get the point and i wont even get into the golden hatchet..

But the game may be a bit too stunning for its on good, making whats ugly seem even uglier and although i dont have many gripes with the world i do have gripes with the distance, unforgivingly bad at times and again everything else is looking close to perfect so imperfections tend to stand out in a worse way. In any event the dustance is a problem, a blurry and sometimes foggy looking backdrop of mountains or cityscape can look downright bad, no gpu or high res monitor can fix this. Its just a shame, i would have very little to complain about if it werent for this in terms w/ the world. The pedestrians can also look a bit out of place at times almost as if to say "hey i think your in the wrong video game, this is sleeping dogs, saints row 3 is 3 blocks down", a bit stiff and level of detail is just lacking but as for Mr. Shen, well he got the royal treatment and not only done well and his clothes have a "life of their own", days of sweat, blood,dirt and whatever else starts to stain his shirt hence a very dirty Shen after days of fighting and running, this added detail was done perfectly.

So just like the streets of hong kong compared to the distant views, Shen and pedestrian side by side would make one ponder if they were of the same game, one done really well with good level of detail while the other lacking both.

I have a very good gpu config and have not exp'd any major texture issues nor frame rate drops , none worth mentioning but i can see how maybe an older card may be an issue because a lot of abbracadabra going on in this game.. Also i own Nvidia, only mentioning because there was some talk about "lack of nvidia support" but if you have a high end card, your gpu will need no support, using latest drivers etc.

Driving, of course the best way to gauge driving is buy doing a doughnut, well ok its not but i did do one immediately and best digital sandbox doughnut ive down in a while.

So no you shouldnt use the driving in this game to practice for a dirt 3 or racing sim contest nor should you try and compare the driving mechansim with them either.
as far as sandbox games are concerned i think nothing other than arcade w/ a tiny touch of sim would be the driving standard for such a game, of course it would be nice if racing sim fans could find sim esq handling in a sandbox but everybody who plays an open world game isnt really going to want to replay a racing mini game over and over again due to 'sucking' at sim driving/racing or the fact that one must shoot down targets while driving in sim fashion would be frustrating as well
( speaking as a non-perfect average gamer anyway )
I wouldve liked to see a cockpit feature but none the less the driving feels good and during gun and shoot scenes it can be very fun. The camera does suck at first, it seems to take have a life of its own at times but its usualy only when first getting into a car and pulling away, then it goes to norm. Backing up can also be a pain until one gets used to the quirky cam.
The handling is arcade, simple is that but not overdone to make driving seem like floating around.

The combat uses enviorment set peices to perform enviorkills and who doesnt enjoy a good enviorkill every now and then. Its general combat is not to the ranks of batman precision/fluid but very good combat overall
gunplay also done nice although i wish more weapons could be introduced,anything w/ scope but with bruce like
moves who needs a gun, just doesnt mean guns arent fun to shoot in games, also the vault and shoot is pretty awesome, slows down time ala max payne 3 when entering a vault and shoot and this can also be found in the drive and shoot mechanic.
The upgrades in moves are ones i looked forward to unlocking, always being aware of finding upgrades. The combat is fun, sometimes repetitive but just like anything else in games when doing something over and over well thats usually the end result But it doesnt hinder the game in any way.. With knives, batons, hatchets there are many ways to slice dice and break bones, dont fret if you do not have one of these in hand because a good disarm will get you the weapon when learning this ability.

So the controls not spot on prefect as far as precision but are good enough to be the best ive seen in open world sandbox league of Gta , saints etc again not best in terms of open world period, batman A.C combat wins that imo.

Music sets the tone and does it well, some complained about the music but it is supposed to be honk kong not new york so a mix of asian esq music w/ many a bunch of english hip hop and rock to compliment it nicely. It just adds one more noth in immersion, just as many of the voices can be heard in native tongue but for the most part its english and at times blending both ( no, not at the same time )

The story is comparible to an asian "Donnie Brasco" , its main storyline and campaign is a good 14 hours min unless you are playing to get it over with.. with all the side quests and roaming araound it will pass the 20 hour mark very easily and is there reason enough to roam ? Yes, with boats , hidden lock/strong boxes as well as upgrades and side missions and incentive to max cop and triad exp as well as face (reputation)
also there is just so much there in terms of "screwing around" whether its just driving boats over jumps or driving cars off of cliffs or maybe run and gun pedestrian fun its just tons to do.
But back to the main story it was one which was well written, paced perfectly and bringing feelings of hate, joy and revenge to the gamer.
It does what a story should do in a game, entertain set a good pace and poke at our feelings. lip sync is good but not perfect and facial animations sometimes stiff but good overall.

Well as far as 6 moths dlc, well if haircuts & shirts or "pre-order exclusives+ rehashed for sale are the order i will pass, if more story, missions and locations etc well sign me up.. None the less i feel that i got my monies worth with sleeping dogs, yes i dont feel robbed ! Also if this is United Fronts first crack at this genre, open world sanbox game, not only held their own but AND then some, well if i were a sandbox dev i would be frightened to what they had slated for their next sandboxer and

So united front i would love to see another from you. A big yes please.

Score
8.7
Graphics
Other than distance and pedestrians this game brings quality visuals. faces sometimes stiff.
8.7
Sound
Crisp and clean. voice overs great.
8.5
Gameplay
Combat solid but not perfect and its a good ride from start to finish.
9.5
Fun Factor
Fun, this game has tons of it, perfect word to describe slepping dogs in one word.. FUN
Overall
9.0
BosMa4999d ago (Edited 4999d ago )

Hey guys/gals.. Thnx for the 4 approves !!

I often get games at launch, i have yet to submit much here but im very non-biased and call the game as i see it.. Sure reviews are based on opinion but also one must remove "personal" feelings when reviewing a game..

I enjoy getting out a review as soon as im able to, usually w/in the first 24 hours, sometimes sooner.

I will do my best to help the community in any way.
If anyone ever needs help or wants to chat feel free..

thnx again !

coolbeans4999d ago

"Sure reviews are based on opinion but also one must remove "personal" feelings when reviewing a game.."

I'm confounded by this portion of your comment. Can you elaborate on this?

BosMa4999d ago

Ok well if one is a big fan of say call of duty, sometimes battlefield can be "the enemy" per se. I have seen many reviews which one would rip apart battlefield for having a short campaign and ends up being a "negative" in regards to score , same reviewer does not mention the fact that MW has the same length of campaign and more importantly does not penalize MW w/ the final verdict. length of the campaign isnt opinion based, one can have an opinion on what they consider short but as far reviewing a game, a review is more honest if one can leave "the fan" out of the critic.

Its not my opinion nor is it of my creation, when one is a "chevy" fan he may take a crap on ford whenever he/she can..

I can give examples with a few reviews i read here, im sure you could also see exactly what i mean by looking at a review, reading the comments and then taking a look at all the critics reviews to make a self eval of whether or not its worth taking stock with the review, this can be important when buying a new game, they are not cheap now a days.

One may also hate E.A or Capcom, hindering their ability to fairly review a game because of those "personal" feelings.

One may love resident evil to the point of obsession, because of this certain items are overlooked etc.

Well im not sure if that makes any sense to you but its not my "thoughts" , its one of many elements which make for a fair review or biased review.. I did not make these elements, i just try to apply them to try and review something fairly and hopefully some can learn something from me if they are on the fence about buying a game, thats why i make a review,lol.. Dont do it for money nor am i plugging anything. I just never reviewed here, i have also read some very helpful reviews here w/ great insight.

T.C

coolbeans4999d ago (Edited 4999d ago )

Basically the notion of asking the reviewer to be as fair as possible. Sorry, it's just that your wording was a bit confusing in your first comment to me. Try as you might, one can't remove personal feelings from their opinion. That's the problem when playing a role that's completely subjective: no two people will see the same thing.

As for the Battlefield/ Modern Warfare portion, I think there's justification in slamming DICE's most recent SP entry and not MW3 because they have two different histories already. The Bad Company series does a pretty good job at making campaigns that can be played more than one way and it's self-aware humor moves the story along. BF3 showed its dependency in CoD, the one that commercialized modern warfare, when it comes to plot (that was bland and unfinished), tone, and SP infantry-based gameplay.

CoD4 did change the main formula and felt like the shortest (main) CoD at the time, but it had a tightly-paced, connected plot.

Thank you for responding though.

BosMa4999d ago (Edited 4999d ago )

Well my review got 5 green lights w/ no issues but of course after it had become "published" a nice red check mark appeared about 10 mins ago which states that everything about my review was poor :

"Bad spelling, bad grammar. Almost no punctuations"

Its a user review, when its my job i will be more careful but that hasnt been the case for me in a long time.

Thats the funny thing about life, you could be a great traveler, seen one end of the world to the other and a guy walks up to you and says " Learn how to use a compass" when he has yet to venture out of his city.

Im not a traveler but in relation to video games, well ive pretty much been there and done that X 2. Only here because gaming is still a part of my life because i love playing video games and i also love supporting gamers any way i can.
So to who it may concern, i am sorry but this review is already published, voted by 5 people to meet the standards you are a bit late the party ended 7 hours ago.
Im sure you will have the chance to delay another users review, one that is deemed acceptable by the majority. Just need to set the alarm clock a bit sooner, i may make another so fret not.
If i was at a desk given an yellow sticky by my boss then yes my review would enter a stage to which spell checks and corrections would apply.

This is not my excuse for being "lazy", its me saying its good enough to pass and it did.
I had made a mistake w/ providing material in the wrong manner, i deleted immediately because i respected the fact that i was wrong and the community had made me aware and yes prior to publish.
what does this late "report" serve? Im sure you viewed that it was allowed and "passed over 7 - 8 hours ago. Im very curious.

So either he is saying the first 5 people who did approve missed all of these imperfections or he himself holds a higher threshold of "opinion" when it comes to personal thoughts of what the standard should be.
It would make more sense to pm me w/ "hey check your spelling it sucks, fix it" rather than wait until its published to report. Isnt that supposed to happen prior to the publish? Well the first 5 people thought is was decent enough to pass it so i will go w/ the majority and not edit a thing :).

Been around too long .. lol, nevermind but a good example of what we are talking about but i wont get discuss it much further than i already have but pm me if you wish, i think my guess is a very good one as to why.

But hey it is what it is, although a bit confusing. Even more so his comment on profile:

"I'm a stickler for spelling and grammar, but I don't go out of my way to correct anyone. Like the Frontalot song says, "I don't preach. I practice."

Well this is a contradiction, after my review passed you voted against it, going out of your way.

Anyways thnx for the nice chat, im looking forward to MoH warfighter w/ hopes it will be a solid sp and mp but now a days it seems like the sp is more a "Drill" for the mp. Hard to find solid sp and mp in the same game.
I liked world at war alot, just love the old weapons and the sounds they make.

As you can see my mind tends to dissect, more so when things dont make sense to me, me being the key word.

As you can also see my fingertips tend to create "tl:dr" material w/o hesitation,lol.. Almost as if they just type and type and before i realize it a pile of mumbo jumbo is on my screen, well my fingers are kind of programmed and need to unprogram them, re-boot them, fresh install etc,lol

thnx again i enjoyed the chat.

Nocturne1474998d ago

I agree with Score, Ups&Downs, very good review.

80°

I Wish More People Played Sleeping Dogs

United Front Games developed a really unique experience with Sleeping Dogs, and it still holds up. Unfortunately, any hope at a sequel hinges on it getting more popular almost a decade later.

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NettosGameRoom253d ago

The game is on sale right now for $5 on PlayStation!

JunonZanon253d ago

One of the best open world games around, the story was really well made

JBryant0619253d ago

I wish we could have fought the Pork Bun Man in the game!

Rebel_Scum253d ago

Brah, what he’d ever do to you? You not a real man!

RavenWolfx253d ago

It is a great game and I would love a sequel.

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140°

Shang-Chi Star Simu Liu Wants to Develop Sleeping Dogs Sequel and Movie

Shang-Chi star Simu Liu is working to revive the Sleeping Dogs movie and hopes its success could lead to a long-awaited Sleeping Dogs sequel.

ZeekQuattro456d ago

Please do. One of my favorite games from that gen. A man who never eats pork bun is never a whole man!

Inverno456d ago

Square has their own GTA and they haven't bothered making a sequel. Yet they're wasting money on nfts and live service crap.

Inverno456d ago

Gotta be more specific. Did it sell well to Square and their unrealistic expectations? Probably not. Did it sell well and garnered enough praise to deserve a sequel? Yes. They also bought the rights from Acti when it was True Crime so they must've thought it was worth it at the time so idk why they've let the IP die out.

ZeekQuattro456d ago

According to Square Sleeping Dogs, Hitman Absolution and even Tomb Raider Reboot bombed on varying levels. They all dropped around the same time. All sold well enough but Square and it's lofty expectations got in the way. I remember Square was mumbling that TR sold 3 million + in a month.

CrimsonWing69456d ago

I’d be down if he doesn’t shove his ideals in it.

AndrewM456d ago

As long as the game fits YOUR ideals eh? Whatever happened to artists creating what artists want...

CrimsonWing69456d ago

Hey, they can create whatever they want. I literally said “I’d” be down if he doesn’t shove his ideals in it.

Whatever happened to consumers being allowed to voice what they want in a discussion forum, eh…?

JunonZanon456d ago

What a game Sleeping Dogs is.

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120°

It's A Crime That There's No Sleeping Dogs 2 Yet

Huzaifah from eXputer: "Sleeping Dogs from the early 2010s is one of the best open-world games out there but in dire need of a resurgence."

LG_Fox_Brazil747d ago

I agree, I consider the first one a cult classic already

isarai747d ago

You say "yet" as if it's even possible anymore. United Front Games is gone, along with anyone that made this game what it is

CrimsonWing69746d ago

That’s what happens when games sell poorly. And I’ve seen people wonder why people cry when a game sells badly… this is your answer.

solideagle746d ago

Majority of the time it's true but if a company/publisher is big (in terms of money), they can take a hit or 2. e.g. I am not worried about Rebirth sales as Square will make Remake 3 anyway but if FF 17 doesn't sell then Square might need to look for alternative. <-- my humble opinion

Abnor_Mal746d ago

Doesn’t Microsoft own the IP now since they acquired Activision?

DaReapa746d ago

No. Square Enix owns the IP.

Abnor_Mal746d ago

Oh okay, Activision owned True Crime, but when that didn’t sell as intended it was canceled. Six months later Square Enix bought the rights and changed the title to Sleeping Dogs.*

*As per Wikipedia

boing1746d ago (Edited 746d ago )

Sleeping Dogs was a sleeper hit back then. It was fantastic. It actually still is. Would love a sequel to this, or at least a revive of True Crime series.

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